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Is it possible to Negotiate with the PTI Chief? | Kashif Abbasi & Faisal Vawda Analysis
Is it possible to Negotiate with the PTI Chief? | Kashif Abbasi & Faisal Vawda Analysis
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00:00 Today, Prime Minister of Pakistan, Mr. Shahbaz Sharif met with the traders in Karachi.
00:06 He asked a very interesting question,
00:08 "Can the Chairman of Tariq-e-Insaf, Mr. Imran Khan, be interviewed?"
00:12 This was the question of Mr. Arif Habib.
00:14 Let's hear what he said in his question.
00:19 You joined hands with the Managing Director of IMF at the end of June.
00:25 You joined hands with the People's Party and other people.
00:30 What are the good results of this?
00:31 I would like you to join hands with two other people.
00:34 One, join hands with our neighbours.
00:36 I think they will have good results, including India.
00:40 Secondly, join hands with the residents of Adyala.
00:43 You can improve the situation there.
00:46 I think if this is done, it will be very good.
00:53 Is this interview possible?
00:55 This kind of discussion is increasingly being made by the Muslim League.
00:58 Can we have an interview with Mr. Imran Khan?
01:01 Can we solve the problems?
01:02 If Mr. Imran Khan wants, please listen.
01:05 We should be united in the best interests of Pakistan,
01:08 regardless of our personal likes and dislikes.
01:11 How cases were taken up in the past,
01:14 how it is happening today,
01:16 all these things are going to be solved by sitting down.
01:18 In politics, the solution to the problem is always through dialogues.
01:21 We can talk about our cases,
01:23 we can talk about imprisonment,
01:25 we can talk about every case,
01:27 but the discussion should be non-binding.
01:30 We can sit with political parties.
01:32 If you sit with political parties,
01:35 is it possible to have any kind of negotiations?
01:38 On the other hand, the High Court of Islamabad held a full court hearing.
01:41 You may remember that six judges wrote a letter.
01:43 And in this letter,
01:44 it was discussed about the pressures
01:46 that are being put on the judiciary by the intelligence agencies.
01:51 Yesterday, a full court hearing of the High Court of Islamabad was held.
01:55 On the issue of interference,
01:57 the institution decided to give a full response.
02:01 We will also talk about this,
02:02 what will be this full response?
02:04 How will it be?
02:06 But before that,
02:07 let me introduce the guests.
02:08 Mr. Faisal Wada is present with us.
02:10 He is a senator.
02:11 Which party's senator are you?
02:12 Azad.
02:13 Which one?
02:15 Azad?
02:16 Azad is the one who is…
02:17 Why are you feeling ashamed to call yourself Azad?
02:20 I am not feeling ashamed.
02:21 I take pride in it.
02:22 I am independent.
02:24 You know that he is not independent.
02:27 He is dependent.
02:29 Sir, look,
02:31 I can give an answer without giving a single solution.
02:35 This is the way forward.
02:42 You are not letting the country run.
02:44 This is the problem.
02:45 If Azad doesn't come…
02:46 Say it again.
02:47 Say what you were saying.
02:48 Ask Allah.
02:49 I did this,
02:50 I did that,
02:51 and you are winning.
02:52 What is wrong in this,
02:54 in Pakistan?
02:55 If I am not independent,
02:56 if I am not from any party,
02:57 what would I do?
02:58 Then you would ask me,
02:59 why did you leave this party?
03:00 Now that I am independent,
03:01 you are telling me.
03:03 Who is he?
03:04 Allah.
03:05 Okay.
03:06 I pray to Allah.
03:07 Is this what you say these days?
03:08 I always say this.
03:09 It is a very sad thing.
03:10 You know,
03:11 and you are happy to be independent.
03:14 Who voted for you?
03:15 Who was your proposer and seconder?
03:18 I am very thankful to NKM and People's Party
03:23 for supporting me as independent,
03:25 regardless of my criticism.
03:27 And not once did they say,
03:29 you did this, you did that.
03:31 I am thankful to NKM as well.
03:32 As independent.
03:33 He did it himself.
03:34 He did it.
03:35 People's Party did it as well.
03:38 Musawar Mas Khokhal is with us,
03:40 and Salman Akhund Raja.
03:41 They are such good independents.
03:43 Look,
03:45 the formula of Pakistan's politics,
03:47 if they can rig big leaders and leaders,
03:51 crack them,
03:53 then it is permissible for them.
03:55 What do big political parties do?
03:57 They do the same thing,
03:58 what they did when they were talking about democracy,
04:00 giving respect to votes,
04:02 what did they do?
04:03 So we give them a metaphor,
04:05 we say, policy has changed.
04:07 So when our brother cracked the same formula,
04:12 that those who need support,
04:14 leave these parties.
04:15 What is the status of these parties?
04:17 What is the need of these parties?
04:19 Their own decisions are not in their control.
04:21 And these parties follow the decisions of these parties,
04:24 and are always ready to talk to them,
04:28 then why shouldn't I talk to them?
04:30 So our brother did the right thing.
04:31 Pakistani politics,
04:32 today these political parties have reached this level.
04:35 And today, if someone wants to enter politics,
04:41 and become a pillar of the people,
04:43 then the big political parties will do the same thing.
04:46 Today, this has become the formula.
04:49 Why should we blame him?
04:52 I have been elected by my friend's father's party,
04:57 although we had a political disagreement.
05:01 But one thing always came to my mind,
05:04 whenever I disagreed with them,
05:06 that we have many political parties,
05:08 and all of them are doing the same thing.
05:10 It is a matter of opportunity.
05:12 So when the formula of Pakistani politics has become this,
05:16 our position, my position,
05:20 is a very idealistic position,
05:22 that's why...
05:24 Idealism doesn't work, I always say.
05:27 He is a radical idealist.
05:29 I always correct myself.
05:32 He always corrects himself.
05:34 You are idealistic, I am realistic.
05:36 There is a difference in their thinking.
05:38 They have the same principle,
05:40 but he is idealistic, I am realistic.
05:42 The principles are different.
05:44 No, no, we are standing on the same principle.
05:46 If you see, I will tell you this.
05:48 You are standing on the same principle.
05:50 No, no, absolutely not.
05:52 What he is saying, I am doing the same.
05:54 I am doing the same,
05:56 but his way is polite,
05:58 and my way is aggressive.
06:00 I agree with this, Mr. Koker.
06:04 I totally agree.
06:06 At least, by the grace of Allah,
06:08 if I am a pro-institute, pro-army...
06:10 I am a pro-army.
06:12 A, B,
06:14 I have never come at anyone's feet.
06:16 By the grace of Allah,
06:18 I have never compromised my principles,
06:20 nor have I forgiven my cases.
06:22 I am very clear, I am a pro-army.
06:24 I am a pro-army.
06:26 I am a pro-judiciary as well.
06:28 Selectively.
06:30 The good judges, the honest judges...
06:32 You decide that.
06:34 No, no, I will decide what I think.