" Oppostion Ke Ittehaad Mein Maulana Fazal Ur Rehman Ki Shamoliat Ka Mukhalif Hon. ." Hamid Raza
" Oppostion Ke Ittehaad Mein Maulana Fazal Ur Rehman Ki Shamoliat Ka Mukhalif Hon. ." Hamid Raza
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00:00 And what is your plan now?
00:02 Today is 18th April, Friday.
00:05 What are you doing now?
00:06 You are hosting a convention in Lahore.
00:11 And we heard that you are announcing the next movement.
00:14 Yes, Mr. Wazir.
00:16 The Movement for the Protection of the Mirror of Pakistan,
00:19 which was formed by the six communities initially,
00:23 we held a meeting in Paschen and Germany.
00:25 Now its main event is on 29th April at SIC's hotel in Lahore.
00:31 And there we will give a comprehensive plan
00:34 on the events in Punjab, KPK and Sindh.
00:39 And we will also announce the protest movement.
00:42 The protest movement will be in the schedule of Imran Khan's release.
00:45 And I would like to make a point.
00:48 So PTI is going to start the national conventions,
00:50 or is it going to start a protest?
00:52 Yes, we are going to start the national conventions,
00:55 protests and everything else.
00:56 Because now we are being walled up.
00:58 So this means that on 29th April,
01:00 PTI will be on the streets and this union will be there?
01:05 Most probably, God willing.
01:08 Is there any possibility of Maulana Sahib's participation in this union?
01:11 Mr. Wazir, this is an innocent question.
01:16 Innocent question.
01:17 You know, I have a lot of points of view.
01:21 And I never hide my point of view.
01:23 Until and unless there is a rift, I don't express those things.
01:29 But my point of view about Maulana Sahib is that
01:32 he will only come to this union to increase his value.
01:35 After achieving his target, he will leave this union.
01:38 I am against his participation in this union in my capacity,
01:41 personal capacity, again, and in the capacity of my party.
01:47 But since there are six Jamaats,
01:49 and led by Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf and presided by Mahmood Khan Achakzai,
01:53 if, in the case of coincidence, it is not possible,
01:56 if in the case of majority, Maulana Sahib's participation is decided,
01:59 then, God willing, you have to accept some things in the democracy.
02:04 But I think if we take them,
02:06 then those who will take them at the behest of their colleagues,
02:08 they will taste its taste soon.
02:10 Some of our people had met him,
02:12 so Maulana Sahib got the seat of Pashin National Assembly.
02:15 And Maulana Sahib's other desired wishes,
02:20 some of them have been fulfilled.
02:22 Now, after becoming a part of this movement,
02:24 he may increase his wishes again,
02:27 take some Govandari-Shwandari, KPK, different things.
02:30 These are my own wishes.
02:32 And apart from me, there are serious reservations of many colleagues.
02:35 But if the decision is taken in the case of majority, then fine,
02:39 we will go with that decision, we will be bound to accept it.
02:42 You said that Maulana Sahib will achieve his target and go to the side.
02:45 So what do you think is his target?
02:47 Sir, his target is always a part of Maulana's power.
02:53 I am almost 44 now,
02:56 and you know that my father and Maulana were arch rivals to each other,
03:01 and my father did not even vote for him in the National Assembly.
03:04 We have seen his political track record.
03:07 And there was a freedom march,
03:10 I am a witness to such things that if I bring it out,
03:13 there will be a commotion.
03:15 I have some practical things that I do not want to say,
03:18 and maybe I will not do it either,
03:20 but I am so convinced on the basis of which,
03:23 that Maulana will ditch us at some stage, at some point.
03:26 And this freedom, without telling the details,
03:28 which march are you talking about,
03:30 the one that came during the PTI rule under Maulana Sahib,
03:32 are you talking about that?
03:34 Yes, exactly, the one who was allowed,
03:36 that how he came, where he came, how he got up, what...
03:40 Then during the march, we met Faiz Ameen Sahib,
03:43 Rashid Sumro Sahib was also there,
03:45 gifts were also given,
03:47 then it was said that now go, we will see in the march,
03:49 we will do the system, we are talking about that.
03:51 Waseem Bhai, I don't know about the gifts,
03:55 I don't know that Malo Matak,
03:57 you know a lot, Waseem Bhai,
03:59 but I don't know that if some people have briefcases,
04:03 they give briefcases for their children.
04:05 No, no, the gift is that goodwill gesture,
04:07 you come to my house, I give you perfume, watch,
04:09 that was the gift, goodwill gesture, like that.
04:11 Sir, may Allah make it so that when I come to your house,
04:13 you also keep 10-15 crores in my car's boot,
04:15 if you give such a gift, Waseem Bhai,
04:17 then I will spend the rest of my life on my phone.
04:19 Now you said this, I didn't say this,
04:21 but you said something like this.
04:23 Sir, I said to you that I asked for a gift,
04:25 you offered me a gift, so I said,
04:27 if I get this gift, it will be better, Waseem Bhai.
04:29 It's between two brothers.
04:31 What are the meetings like that you are saying you are a witness?
04:34 Sir, there are many, many, Waseem Bhai,
04:36 you leave it.
04:38 The inquiry commission of the Faizabad protest,
04:40 has just now declared Shahbaz Sharif Sahib responsible.
04:44 I can tell you that the Punjab government
04:47 did a facilitation work in it.
04:50 There, which people of their own were included in that protest,
04:53 what target was given to them,
04:55 because I have been a participant in all those protests
04:58 as a negotiator,
05:00 all those things were done by the Punjab government
05:03 of the Muslim League Noon.
05:05 I, Waseem Bhai, can also tell you that
05:07 to carry out that protest,
05:10 then who gave the money, but I won't tell.
05:13 Noon League gave the money.
05:15 Sir, Noon League facilitated that protest throughout,
05:19 you can take a video of it.
05:21 Facilitated in such a way that the Punjab police
05:23 was provided an escort.
05:25 Punjab police orders were given
05:27 that you have to take them to a specific place in Islamabad.
05:30 After that, some people of the Noon League of Pindi were charged.
05:34 That you will include 500 to 1000 people in this protest.
05:38 That protest will raise slogans against the army.
05:40 The purpose of the Faizabad protest was absolutely clear.
05:43 Noon League had amended the law of Khatm-e-Nabuwat.
05:46 I still believe that that protest was right.
05:48 It was absolutely right.
05:50 But that protest was ruined with proper planning
05:54 by Noon League itself.
05:56 And Noon League was trying to fulfill its anger
05:59 in some other way with the help of various institutions of Pakistan.
06:03 Because Mian Nawaz Sharif Sahib had left.
06:05 Shahid Khan Khan Awasi Sahib was the Prime Minister.
06:08 Noon League was double-crossing
06:10 and was maligning the institution.
06:13 I have evidence of such a thing, Waseem Bhai.
06:16 I am a witness, keep the Quran on my head.
06:18 I take the name of six people.
06:19 Where do you want to take the evidence?
06:21 Then present the evidence.
06:22 There is also the ritual of Mauqa, the ritual of Duniya.
06:24 Who should I present, Waseem Bhai?
06:26 Who should I present, Waseem Bhai?
06:28 Sir, who should I present?
06:30 Will anyone believe the orders?
06:32 Sir, no one believes in these things, Waseem Bhai.
06:34 You are saying that there is evidence, right?
06:36 Then you speak about the evidence.
06:38 You are saying that I don't have an opinion, I have evidence.
06:40 Sir, I have it.
06:42 I have the records of telephone calls.
06:44 I have a lot more that I can tell.
06:47 That Shahbaz Sharif and Mian Nawaz Sharif
06:51 with malafide intention,
06:53 had organized that protest.
06:55 That protest was absolutely right.
06:57 That protest was used malafidely
07:00 against the Pakistani forces
07:02 by Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif.
07:04 So you have not told the Pakistani forces?
07:06 The matter was very serious.
07:08 Sir, who does not know?
07:10 Everyone knows.
07:11 You ask Bajwa sir.
07:13 You ask General Faiz Ameed sir.
07:15 Don't they know about this?
07:16 Should they say on oath that they do not know about this?
07:18 If they say on oath that they do not know about this,
07:21 then I will tell you who gave the money for the buses.
07:24 But we saw someone else distributing 1000 rupees.
07:27 Someone else was distributing 1000 rupees.
07:29 Sir, one person from Karachi gave.
07:31 He was given from a third party.
07:33 Leave it, Waseem Bhai. What to do?
07:35 In this country, Aave Kaaba, Bihar,
07:37 But no district president of Noon League was distributing 1000 rupees.
07:39 Someone else was distributing.
07:41 Sir, he distributed even at night.
07:43 Sir, who gave the money?
07:44 Who took it from Noon League?
07:45 Noon League gave the money and ended the protest.
07:47 So, Noon League gave the money and who took the money?
07:50 Sir, you ask Noon League.
07:54 You are telling the rest yourself.
07:56 But he is saying that Noon League gave the money.
07:58 You are saying that Noon League gave the money and ended the protest.
08:00 So, Noon League gave the money. Who took it?
08:02 Noon League gave the money to those who took the money.
08:06 Noon League gave the money to Noon League and the protest ended with TLP.
08:11 Sir, TLP was used.
08:14 One thing is established that it was amended in Khatm-e-Nabuwat.
08:19 And against that amendment,
08:21 Mian Shahbaz Sahib himself on the floor of the house,
08:23 asked for Zahid Ahmed's resignation.
08:25 This thing is on record.
08:27 And he protested against Mian Nawaz Sharif.
08:30 So, that stands that the purpose of the protest, TLP, was right.
08:34 Now, who used that protest against whom and what all charges were laid,
08:38 that is another story.