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Shahid Khaqan Abbasi Nay Bator PM kis ko Dharna Kay Ahkamat Diye Thay? Big Revelation
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00:00 "What you mean is that the system has become a mess.
00:05 Whatever happened there, you started the investigation on the top officials, the Prime Minister, the Prime Minister, the officers.
00:13 So when this protest happened, they said, 'Okay, we don't stop anyone. We go and protect them in Faizabad.'
00:21 So they left it and after that they didn't take any part in this matter."
00:26 "Now, your question again gives the impression that there was a conspiracy of the Model Town against the Punjab government at that time."
00:32 "You can think for yourself. Has this ever happened? What happened there, we don't know the reality of that matter."
00:39 "So, sir, the same problem is that you put allegations on time and when the time comes to prove it, you say, 'I don't have evidence.'
00:43 Now, about the Faizabad protest, Mr. Ahsan Iqbal, you kept doing this. Do you know of anyone like this?
00:48 And now when a commission has been made, you are not talking about this there."
00:51 "Look, I am not putting allegations on the Model Town. There are GITs there, there are their reports.
00:56 You have misled the government. When the protest happened, they didn't handle it.
01:00 They said, 'Okay, we have this only way to save our lives and send them there.'
01:06 Now you keep doing this all day.
01:09 Look, when you are presented in front of the commission or talk to a responsible person, you cannot do it on a general basis.
01:16 You have to talk according to your facts."
01:19 "But you said, Mr. Shahid Khan, that I didn't know that Mr. Faizabad was signing the signature.
01:24 But since I had appointed him, my minister said, 'Okay, I will take responsibility.'
01:29 But Mr. Ahsan Iqbal has a different story to tell.
01:32 He says that it was your opinion, that is, Mr. Shahid Khan's opinion, that Mr. Faizabad should not sign the signature.
01:36 What exactly did he say? Let's listen to what Mr. Ahsan Iqbal said about himself in Capital Talk."
01:40 "This agreement was being made.
01:43 So, I was in touch with the Prime Minister.
01:45 When I told the Prime Minister about this agreement, I think Mr. Khan Basi said,
01:50 'It doesn't look good if the General signs it.'
01:54 I told him, 'General, this is a political document.
01:58 It will not look good if you sign it.'
02:01 He replied, 'The other party wants me to sign it.'
02:07 "Is Mr. Ahsan Iqbal right in saying that it is better if Mr. Faizabad does not sign it?"
02:13 "Yes, yes, that is absolutely right.
02:15 Mr. Ahsan Iqbal said that you should not sign it.
02:18 When I found out that he had signed it, I asked him.
02:21 He told me the same thing that he has just mentioned.
02:24 When he said this, I said, 'Okay, you were there at the time.
02:27 You have made a decision.'
02:29 "Before signing, did you tell Mr. Ahsan Iqbal or Mr. Faizabad that it is better if Mr. Faizabad does not sign it?"
02:33 "No, I did not talk to Mr. Faizabad. I spoke to Mr. Ahsan Iqbal.
02:36 I said, 'You people should not sign it.
02:38 The DC or the commissioner will sign it or the DIG or the IG police will sign it.
02:43 You people should not sign it.'
02:45 But when he made a decision on the spot, it became my decision.
02:48 When I signed it, it was 5 or 6 in the morning.
02:52 He made the decision and that was it.
02:55 "It is true that during the Cabinet meeting, Mr. Faiz Ameer was present.
03:00 And the Rangers were told to head this operation.
03:03 And Mr. Faiz was told to take responsibility for this and look into the matter."
03:07 "No, no. There was no such meeting.
03:09 This is a strange thing that has been spread.
03:12 We had a meeting on the day of the Buddha.
03:15 We discussed this and I do not remember whether Mr. Faiz Ameer was there or not.
03:20 I do not remember at all.
03:21 But I heard that his minutes were written in it.
03:25 I do not remember.
03:26 "I will read it out for you.
03:28 Point number 14 says,
03:30 'All those facts had also been confirmed by minutes of meeting 22nd November 2017
03:35 held under chairmanship of then Prime Minister,
03:38 which is you of course,
03:40 where clear directions were given to DGC to resolve the matter
03:47 after carrying out negotiations with TLP leadership.'
03:50 He is saying that Mr. Faiz Ameer was given clear directions in this meeting.
03:53 Are you solving this?
03:54 I have written minutes of meeting on this.
03:56 I do not remember the date.
03:58 Which meeting was it?
03:59 During the protest.
04:00 During the protest.
04:01 There were two meetings during the protest which I had chaired.
04:05 One was on the day of Buddha.
04:07 If this date is consistent with the day of Buddha,
04:09 then this is the same meeting.
04:11 There was no such decision in that meeting.
04:14 In that we had decided that we will squeeze this protest.
04:20 We will reduce the number of guests and food that they receive.
04:26 We will make it difficult so that they also get a little bit of trouble.
04:28 Otherwise, there was a free for all going on there.
04:30 So, in the end, I decided that
04:34 I and Mr. Ahsan Iqbal will decide the time for that action.
04:42 On this, the meeting on Buddha was terminated.
04:46 On Friday night, a petition came to the Islamabad High Court
04:51 that this protest is happening and the public is in great pain because of it.
04:55 The High Court took notice of this and called for the meeting on Friday.
05:00 All the organizations, including Mr. Ahsan Iqbal, were present.
05:04 The High Court ordered that you have to remove this protest before Monday.
05:09 And you have to release the public and you have to not use force.
05:13 So, this was a contradiction with the decision we had made on the day of Buddha.
05:20 But sir, you are saying that in any meeting, whether it was the meeting on Buddha or on the day of Iqbal,
05:25 this is wrong, which happened in your head in the cabinet meeting,
05:27 where clear directions were given to DGC to resolve the matter.
05:30 This did not happen in any meeting.
05:32 This was not a cabinet meeting. This was a small meeting.
05:35 Yes, minutes of the meeting.
05:37 In any meeting that happened in your head,
05:39 Faiz Amir was told to look into this matter.
05:42 I am saying that you should check what day this is being discussed.
05:47 Sir, I am saying that this happened on any day.
05:50 Either this is a fact or it is against the facts.
05:53 I don't remember that Faiz Hamid was ever held responsible for this.
05:58 This was all Mr. Ahsan Iqbal's responsibility.
06:00 Whoever he co-opted, he had the right.
06:05 I don't remember that I ever gave such instructions that Faiz Hamid would deal with this protest.
06:11 The commission says that Mr. Shahid Khakan Abbasi in his statement confirmed
06:16 that no individual or organisation was involved in organising or facilitating the Faizabad protest.
06:23 One is that you are saying that you don't have any evidence, so I don't know if there was anyone involved.
06:27 Another is that you are saying that Khakan Abbasi confirmed that there was no one involved.
06:30 Is it right or wrong to say this? Did you say this or not?
06:32 I will have to see what question was asked.
06:36 I am asking about your answer. You gave the answer a few days ago.
06:39 No, I gave the answer about a question.
06:42 If the question was about this, I can check the questions and tell you.
06:47 I will confirm that if the question was about whether you said that we have to control this protest in this way
06:58 or who is involved in this.
07:00 My answer is that I don't have any evidence as to who was involved or not.
07:05 We saw that the Punjab Police left the protesters there.
07:11 Okay, this is a question from Wasim Madami.
07:14 Let's ask the commissioner an innocent question.
07:16 Wasim Madami is asking Mr. Shahid Khakan Abbasi,
07:18 was any individual or organisation involved in organising or facilitating the Faizabad protest?
07:24 Look, Mr. Wasim Madami, you are asking me a question.
07:28 I was in a responsible position.
07:30 Should I give a statement or speak according to the evidence that I had knowledge of?
07:35 Okay, these people were present there.
07:38 The Islamabad Police tried to take action on the court order.
07:42 They shed tears.
07:44 They were again made to shed tears.
07:46 And there is also news that they were fired upon.
07:48 I have seen this with my own eyes.
07:51 Because we were going to Lahore in a helicopter at that time.
07:54 So, all these things happened.
07:56 I can't say that an individual is involved or not.
08:00 I have no evidence of this.
08:02 Okay, I will tell you another incident of Ahsan Iqbal.
08:04 I think you don't agree with this.
08:06 Because Ahsan Iqbal is saying that this was a project of the government.
08:10 Please show us what Ahsan Iqbal said.
08:12 Look, this was a very dangerous game that was played at that time.
08:16 This religious card that was played,
08:18 the operation that was being carried out to topple our government,
08:22 the whole operation that was being carried out,
08:26 and its purpose was not to topple the movement of the Prophethood.
08:30 All that movement was to topple the government.
08:33 That is why I think that the action that Justice Qazi Faiz has taken,
08:37 it is very good that we should settle these things so that it does not repeat in the future.
08:42 But you did not give any written affidavit.
08:44 Shahid Khan Abbasi also said that if the court calls me, I will tell you.
08:47 Now the entire world has given it.
08:49 Neither you nor the former Prime Minister.
08:51 We would have definitely gone and told you whatever we know.
08:54 But I think that the thing that he has noticed,
08:57 it is a very good thing,
08:58 it should be terminated forever.
09:00 So, is this your opinion,
09:01 the one who is talking about the termination of the government,
09:03 is this your opinion that Ahsan Iqbal,
09:05 this is Mr. Iqbal's statement,
09:06 ask him, he will have proof,
09:07 he will say that I do not have it.
09:08 Is that so?
09:09 No, there is no need to give an answer.
09:11 The answer is that the government was terminated.
09:14 We came after that.
09:16 Mr. Iqbal is probably talking about the first protest in Faizabad.
09:20 That will happen.
09:22 I do not have any proof of any person's involvement or anyone else.
09:26 If the rest of the Supreme Court calls and asks,
09:29 what do you want to say, what is your opinion,
09:32 I will tell them.

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