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00:00 [Music]

00:26 [Arabic]

00:52 And of course goes without saying, I always say this,

00:56 no matter what institution it is,

00:58 I say that at least institutions like these,

01:01 which serve people,

01:03 the last thing that should be done is to put a label on it,

01:07 any affiliation, political, secretary and so on,

01:12 all this should be above this.

01:15 So it is possible that you have any opinion in every regard,

01:18 but when it comes to institutions like this,

01:20 then I think there is only one problem,

01:23 and that is that it is human.

01:25 There should be no other issue.

01:27 And I am sure, I am very sure,

01:29 that this Shaukat Khanum Hospital in Pakistan,

01:32 is one of such examples,

01:34 which is not just an example, but has become a metaphor,

01:38 that how underprivileged people,

01:41 or people who cannot afford,

01:43 how they have to provide treatment,

01:45 especially in terms of cancer,

01:47 what facilities they have to provide.

01:49 I would like to invite the Chief Medical Officer of Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital and Research Centre,

01:54 Dr. Mohd. Asim Yusuf.

01:56 Thank you very much sir.

01:58 Welcome to the show.

02:00 And during this time,

02:02 if you could please run the details of Shaukat Khanum on the screen.

02:05 So the idea is that in the next 10-12 minutes,

02:07 as a layman, who does not know anything about Shaukat Khanum,

02:12 we should be able to know what he is doing,

02:14 how he is doing it,

02:16 what he wants to do,

02:18 and how we can contribute to this,

02:20 through a donation of 1 rupee,

02:22 or through a donation of 1 Arab.

02:24 How can we play our part?

02:27 So sir, once again, thank you very much.

02:30 First of all, tell me,

02:32 if I may say, we keep hearing,

02:34 but let us revise,

02:36 how would you describe,

02:38 Shaukat Khanum is a facility for cancer patients,

02:40 for free or for cheap treatment,

02:42 in Pakistan, would you say so or what?

02:44 Yes, I would say, thank you,

02:46 I would say that Shaukat Khanum is a facility in Pakistan,

02:50 where cancer patients,

02:52 without having to pay for it,

02:54 or someone else will pay for it,

02:56 a high standard treatment is done,

02:59 and more than 75% of our patients,

03:02 are treated completely free of charge.

03:04 In Lahore, our hospital is in Peshawar,

03:07 and in Karachi, it is under construction,

03:09 which is our biggest cancer hospital.

03:11 In Lahore and Karachi, it is fully operational.

03:13 When you say 75% of the treatment is free,

03:15 the rest 25% is affordable,

03:17 and they pay for it.

03:19 Is there a category,

03:21 for example, a treatment of 100 rupees,

03:23 can be given for 60 rupees,

03:25 so they pay 60, is there a category like that?

03:27 75% is totally free,

03:29 100% is on support,

03:31 and 10% is on partial support.

03:34 Like you said, we can give this much,

03:37 or we can give 5 lakhs first,

03:39 and then we cannot give,

03:41 because cancer treatment is very expensive.

03:43 So we call it hospital support,

03:45 and we call it partial support.

03:47 So in such conversations,

03:49 we do mention full support,

03:51 because that's the bulk,

03:53 and that 75% is totally free.

03:55 Right. On average, how much is the expense?

03:57 Of course it varies,

03:59 but on an average,

04:01 how much is the expense on a cancer patient?

04:03 Breast cancer is the most common cancer,

04:05 in women,

04:07 and about 50% of our patients have it.

04:09 The initial treatment,

04:11 is 25 lakhs.

04:13 Blood cancer or leukemia,

04:15 is said to cost 50 lakhs.

04:17 On one person?

04:19 Yes, on one person.

04:21 And if a bone marrow transplant is needed,

04:23 which is very important for many patients,

04:25 then it is 1 crore total expense.

04:27 And if you are on support,

04:29 then it will be totally free for you.

04:31 Ok, so now you people,

04:33 this is not a challenge,

04:35 that there will be a lot of people,

04:37 there is a capacity of a hospital,

04:39 so is the waiting list big or what?

04:41 So, 1,80,000 new cancer patients,

04:43 are there in Pakistan every year.

04:45 How many?

04:47 1,80,000. New patients come?

04:49 New patients are diagnosed every year.

04:51 Out of them, about 25%,

04:53 45,000 come to our walk-in clinics,

04:55 in Lahore, Peshawar, Karachi,

04:57 in the hope that we will treat them.

04:59 Unfortunately,

05:01 due to the capacity,

05:03 in Lahore and Peshawar,

05:05 last year for example,

05:07 we took new cancer patients.

05:09 Apart from this,

05:11 about 32,000 are in follow-up,

05:13 which is not active treatment.

05:15 So, that is why we are making a third hospital in Karachi.

05:17 Karachi's hospital is bigger than Lahore and Peshawar?

05:19 It is twice the size of Lahore.

05:21 Twice, ok.

05:23 In size and physical capacity,

05:25 and all the equipment and facilities,

05:27 are twice that of Lahore.

05:29 How many patients will you be able to cater annually?

05:31 So, we hope that when it will be fully functional in Karachi,

05:33 then about 10,000 to 12,000

05:35 new cancer patients will be able to be taken annually.

05:37 Alright.

05:39 Our estimate is that Lahore needs

05:41 20 cancer hospitals of the size of Shaukat Khanam in Pakistan.

05:43 So that if any cancer patient

05:45 does not go back,

05:47 then 20 will be there for him.

05:49 Exactly.

05:51 This will be the third in Karachi.

05:53 How far has Karachi reached and what is the target?

05:55 Karachi's physical structure is complete.

05:57 1.1 million square feet.

05:59 11 lakh square feet.

06:01 Its finishing work is going on.

06:03 The original date was

06:05 that it will open on December 23.

06:07 It has been delayed a little.

06:09 Due to the economic situation,

06:11 the financial crisis of the country,

06:13 the devaluation of the rupee,

06:15 and the inflation,

06:17 the costs have escalated a lot.

06:19 So now our target is that

06:21 it will open on December 25.

06:23 It seems that the target will be achieved now.

06:25 Inshallah.

06:27 And how much is the cost in Karachi hospitals?

06:29 In the entire project.

06:31 The project cost is 31 billion rupees.

06:33 When it started,

06:35 it was much less.

06:37 But because of inflation and

06:39 cost increases,

06:41 we have spent 12 billion on it.

06:43 And we need

06:45 18 or 19 billion more.

06:47 We hope that

06:49 it will be completed

06:51 this year and next year.

06:53 I will stop here for a moment

06:55 and request that Shaukat Khanam Hospital

06:57 is your example.

06:59 We are very grateful to him.

07:01 His work is very good.

07:03 His work is very good.

07:05 His work is very good.

07:07 He is the biggest city in Pakistan.

07:09 And if there is any facility in Karachi,

07:11 it goes without saying that it is not only the city of Karachi,

07:13 but the whole city of Pakistan is benefiting from it.

07:15 Because there are representatives of the whole city of Pakistan

07:17 in a very large number.

07:19 This project is being made, which is twice as big as the project in Lahore.

07:21 And it has already been delayed.

07:23 The target was for 2023, but it has been delayed to 2025.

07:25 So I will stop here

07:27 and request you

07:29 that Shaukat Khanam Hospital

07:31 should be made in Karachi.

07:33 I will request the people of Karachi and the whole of Pakistan

07:35 to try to make this happen as soon as possible.

07:37 So that in a city like Karachi,

07:39 where there are patients from Afghanistan

07:41 to Pakistan,

07:43 there are patients from Afghanistan here too.

07:45 There are patients from Sindh, Balochistan,

07:47 Dehramurah, Jamali, Dehralayar.

07:49 So there are a lot of people.

07:51 So that something good can happen for them.

07:53 And you know what the private hospitals are.

07:55 A poor man

07:57 gets a cold,

07:59 and he says, "Just do it."

08:01 He can't support the doctor.

08:03 So this cancer is a very different matter.

08:05 So the first request is that in Karachi,

08:07 as much as possible for Shaukat Khanam Hospital,

08:09 we must definitely light our part of the candle.

08:11 In this, Zakat,

08:13 Atiyat, Khairat,

08:15 everything can be done.

08:17 So the Zakat that we collect,

08:19 and in Ramadan we collect the most Zakat,

08:21 I will also appeal to your viewers

08:23 to remember that.

08:25 We spend Zakat only on direct patient care.

08:27 The year in which it is collected,

08:29 in that year only,

08:31 it is spent completely.

08:33 It is only on the deserving patients,

08:35 who are deserving of Zakat.

08:37 And it is not saved for the next few years.

08:39 And that does not work as construction work.

08:41 So we don't do any construction work

08:43 or the work of buying equipment machines.

08:45 So the hospital in Karachi

08:47 is not being made from Zakat.

08:49 Those non-Zakat donations,

08:51 which people give for charity,

08:53 it is made from that.

08:55 So Zakat is spent separately,

08:57 and that is for the direct patient care.

08:59 If someone is giving Zakat,

09:01 then he should be assured that

09:03 this money will be used to save the life of a cancer patient.

09:05 When Karachi Hospital will be built,

09:07 the patients will be treated,

09:09 they will be treated with Zakat.

09:11 But Zakat is not spent on construction.

09:13 Neither in Lahore, nor in Peshawar,

09:15 nor in Karachi.

09:17 So how do you pay the construction cost?

09:19 We have been doing donation campaigns for the last 12 years.

09:21 Specifically for Karachi Hospital.

09:23 We have campaigns for that.

09:25 And if I take your point forward,

09:27 Karachi is the city

09:29 which taught philanthropy to the whole country.

09:31 There is a tradition of philanthropy

09:33 for hundreds of years.

09:35 We appeal to the people of Karachi,

09:37 because they always,

09:39 when there were hospitals in Lahore and Peshawar,

09:41 when we did not have any presence here,

09:43 then 20% of our donations came from Karachi.

09:45 Wow.

09:47 We tell the whole country that

09:49 now it is time to support Karachi.

09:51 But also we expect and hope

09:53 that the people of Karachi will also

09:55 give their heart to the Karachi project

09:57 and will also give us Zakat.

09:59 And I am very sure that

10:01 one thing which I am very satisfied about

10:03 regarding Shaukat Khanan,

10:05 that merit is not compromised.

10:07 So please tell us about the transparency merit.

10:09 That the patient who is truly worthy,

10:11 if he is forced,

10:13 that is a different matter.

10:15 If a patient is getting 100 every year

10:17 and the capacity is 20,

10:19 then what can be done about it?

10:21 But otherwise, if a patient has come

10:23 and deserves the merit,

10:25 then he does not go back.

10:27 Tell us about the system of transparency.

10:29 So the system is that

10:31 for supported treatment,

10:33 we accept cancer patients on the basis of stage.

10:35 Only their stage,

10:37 their age, their general health,

10:39 that is, there is a decision on medical reasons.

10:41 There is no other decision

10:43 that where have you come from,

10:45 which language do you speak,

10:47 are you from Afghanistan or Pakistan?

10:49 What is your religion, creed, caste?

10:51 Nothing.

10:53 Only your disease and its stage is there.

10:55 Because we spend money on Zakat

10:57 for treatment.

10:59 We think that this is a sacred trust

11:01 that people have given us.

11:03 We trust that we will spend it properly.

11:05 And the best way to spend it

11:07 is that it can be completely treated.

11:09 So we try to

11:11 accept those

11:13 whose disease can be completely treated,

11:15 they can be healthy,

11:17 they can go back to their homes,

11:19 they can contribute to society,

11:21 they can take care of their children.

11:23 These are the only criteria to accept.

11:25 Okay, and tell me a little bit

11:27 that there was an impression

11:29 that you have not taken care of your health

11:31 all your life,

11:33 sleeping patterns, eating patterns,

11:35 etc. etc.

11:37 So the chance of getting cancer is increased.

11:39 We hear a lot that

11:41 the age of the person is 8, 9, 12,

11:43 what is this?

11:45 11% of our patients are children.

11:47 Really? Seriously?

11:49 But the good news is that

11:51 many children's cancers are very curable.

11:53 Wow, reversible.

11:55 If they come in the early stage,

11:57 then the cure rate is very high compared to adults.

11:59 So clearly,

12:01 environmental and other factors are not so relevant.

12:03 Genetic factors are more

12:05 problematic.

12:07 So, what is the benefit of this?

12:09 When we say that the sugar level has increased in Pakistan,

12:11 cholesterol has increased a lot,

12:13 so we say that get an HB1c test done,

12:15 check LDL cholesterol,

12:17 so that we know where we are standing

12:19 and take precautions accordingly.

12:21 Now, is there any test or something

12:23 that shows that he has cancer

12:25 and it is of the last stage?

12:27 So, it is of the last stage,

12:29 is there anything to be saved from this?

12:31 If you keep doing such tests,

12:33 then you will find out that God forbid,

12:35 you will find out that you have cancer.

12:37 So, there are disease specific tests,

12:39 but there are some general measures

12:41 that we can take.

12:43 One is that there are many cancers,

12:45 like smoking,

12:47 using betel leaf,

12:49 etc. should be avoided.

12:51 They can cause mouth and lung cancer.

12:53 Being overweight,

12:55 if the diabetes is uncontrolled,

12:57 if there is hepatitis B or C,

12:59 then it increases the risk of liver cancer.

13:01 Being overweight,

13:03 it increases the risk of liver cancer.

13:05 So, optimizing your weight,

13:07 keeping it at your level,

13:09 exercising, maintaining a healthy diet,

13:11 and avoiding smoking,

13:13 these are the general measures.

13:15 Then there are some specific things,

13:17 like if you get a vaccination

13:19 for hepatitis B,

13:21 then the risk of liver cancer

13:23 reduces.

13:25 And if there are any symptoms,

13:27 then it should be investigated early.

13:29 If there are any symptoms,

13:31 if you feel pain,

13:33 if you lose weight,

13:35 without any reason,

13:37 if you have prolonged fever,

13:39 if you feel a blue rash,

13:41 or if you start bleeding,

13:43 from your nose,

13:45 then these things should be tested.

13:47 - This is a red flag.

13:49 Towards the end, what would you like to say?

13:51 We are asking from our side,

13:53 what would you like to say?

13:55 - I think through you and your program,

13:57 we would like to request that

13:59 we don't take our donors lightly,

14:01 we don't take them for granted.

14:03 People have a lot of choices.

14:05 But you can definitely give your money to Shaukat Hanum

14:07 as Zakat in this Ramadan.

14:09 Knowing that it will go to the right place,

14:11 the patients will be treated appropriately,

14:13 the patients will be treated at a high level,

14:15 and with equality.

14:17 Meaning, all facilities

14:19 are given to everyone equally,

14:21 whether they are paying themselves or for someone else.

14:23 - So, there is no VIP room,

14:25 - There are no VIP rooms,

14:27 - There are only VIP rooms,

14:29 - There is a paying patient,

14:31 - and a supportive patient.

14:33 - We as doctors and nurses,

14:35 - don't know who is getting treated for free,

14:37 - and who is getting paid.

14:39 - So, thank you very much, sir.

14:41 - And I would like to say,

14:43 - the few words in life,

14:45 - that we are afraid of,

14:47 - every one of us,

14:49 - one of them is cancer.

14:51 - When we hear about someone's loved one,

14:53 - we get scared.

14:55 - And the last thing we want to hear about ourselves,

14:57 - is that,

14:59 - you know, this has happened.

15:01 - So, I have a lot of faith,

15:03 - I am not a missionary,

15:05 - but I have heard from the scholars,

15:07 - that if we make an effort,

15:09 - which Allah has kept with us,

15:11 - whether it is one rupee or one billion rupees,

15:13 - thinking that we have to make the quality of life

15:15 - of a cancer patient better,

15:17 - I say that we should do it

15:19 - even if we think it is a selfish approach,

15:21 - that Allah will protect me and you,

15:23 - if we do something for someone,

15:25 - then we should at least think about it.

15:27 - And again, this is an institution,

15:29 - which has proved for years,

15:31 - that any view,

15:33 - whether it is religious,

15:35 - religious, nationality,

15:37 - or political,

15:39 - it does not come under pressure this time.

15:41 - This is a different thing that is going on,

15:43 - on its merit, and in a great way.

15:45 - So, I would say, Ms. Shaukat,

15:47 - please strengthen the hands of the hospital.

15:49 - It is the month of Ramadan.

15:51 - We should be thankful to Shaukat Khan.

15:53 - His expectations are increasing,

15:55 - in the month of Mubarak.

15:57 - Actually, the expectations of the patients are increasing.

15:59 - They are looking at us, that Ramadan has come,

16:01 - and some matters will get better.

16:03 - So, I understand, it is an economic crisis,

16:05 - but we need to do our part,

16:07 - so that we can light our own candle.

16:09 - I always say,

16:11 - if we all light one candle,

16:13 - it will be a lot of light, Inshallah.

16:15 - Shaukat Khan Hospital is to be built in Karachi.

16:17 - It was the redline of 2023, now it is 2025.

16:19 - So, all of us, Pakistanis,

16:21 - should make a pledge,

16:23 - that we will continue this project in Karachi,

16:25 - till the end of 2025,

16:27 - which will be twice as big as Lahore.

16:29 - We have to make it reach the Paya Takmah,

16:31 - and we have to make it successful.

16:33 - So that,

16:35 - Shaukat Khan is such an institution,

16:37 - that we have a few good examples to quote,

16:39 - and the world tells us, we have such institutions.

16:41 - For sure, Shaukat Khan is one of those institutions.

16:43 - So, sir, thank you very much once again.

16:45 - Thank you. - And I wish you all the best.

16:47 - We will be back after a short break.

16:49 - Let's give a big round of applause to all the workers and customers of Shidara.

16:53 [Applause]

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