Wallows stopped by Genius to discuss their hit “Your Apartment.” The single is the bands first release since their song “WISH ME LUCK,” which was released in 2022. The song is produced by John Congleton and off the bands upcoming album, Model. On today’s episode of Verified, the band lets fans know the meaning behind their lyrics and which other stars they draw inspiration from when writing.
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00:00 I think it's like the old saying, "Measure twice, cut once."
00:03 Like the old saying?
00:04 Yeah, like the construction.
00:06 You know, contraction, measure twice, cut once.
00:09 I like it.
00:10 Do you know this saying?
00:11 No.
00:12 You don't know it?
00:13 No, but it makes sense.
00:14 It's an old thing, like measure twice, cut once.
00:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16 Classic.
00:16 Something about the way the song feels when you put it on, you can sort of just get lost
00:28 in it, and the lyrics that Dylan wrote, I feel like they're more raw than some of our
00:34 stuff in the past.
00:35 I think you're just letting your emotions be heard.
00:38 I've seen different theories of what it could be about, and I'm like, "Oh, it's interesting."
00:41 For me, it's so specific, and I know exactly what it is, but it's not as clear to the fans
00:45 as I thought it would be, which is cool.
00:46 Like, I like that people can apply their own meaning to it.
00:48 I think it just gives a lot for our fans to sink their teeth into.
00:50 "We don't need a repeat of the night when you called me over to your apartment.
00:59 Should we get close?
01:00 Should we put the lights down?
01:03 It was never right, I think you know now."
01:05 The first verse is definitely reflective of a night of getting called over to an ex-person's
01:11 place.
01:12 I'm sure we both know that that never would have been a good idea.
01:14 I'm sure we both feel this way now.
01:15 It's been long enough.
01:16 "There's a lot of things that I could tell you, but some things are left better if you
01:22 never knew.
01:23 So I shut myself up with a nightcap.
01:27 I'm not tempted, I just don't like that old wound.
01:32 Seem to open up with you.
01:36 What am I supposed to do?
01:39 I don't need to walk you through it."
01:43 I'm personally someone who could give into temptation more often than not.
01:48 I just feel it's part of my personality, a little spontaneous.
01:50 So to me, if this situation ever arose, I'm not sure.
01:54 I feel like Dylan has a very thoughtful mindset of where the boundary should be with an ex-person
02:00 or something, where I feel very like, "Oh yeah, it's fine.
02:04 Let's meet up," or whatever.
02:06 And I understand that that can definitely put up weird, just unnecessary old wounds.
02:13 Speaking of.
02:15 Who said that I don't understand the pain of this or the emotions of going through this
02:35 process?
02:36 Of course I don't remember this.
02:37 Just because I'm not opening up in the way that you'd necessarily want me to, doesn't
02:42 mean that I'm not feeling the same things.
02:44 I just don't need to give that to you because there has to be healthy boundaries in how
02:47 we talk about this and how we communicate with each other, if at all.
02:51 When I think about writing chorus parts, I always think about the Kacey Musgraves song,
03:11 "High Horse," because that song, the verse is not only just so catchy as its own thing,
03:16 but then every part that follows that seems to almost one up the part before it.
03:21 This song, the "Who said I don't," kind of could be the statement moment and then back
03:26 to the verse, but then we follow it up with what we're calling the chorus chorus.
03:32 This song, I don't think there really was an obvious chorus.
03:34 The song was kind of recorded and I told the guys, "I consider this part to be the chorus."
03:39 I didn't know if we pictured it as the whole thing was the chorus or the-
03:41 I still don't even know what the chorus is.
03:43 I'm always one that's going to reread and really think before sending anything.
04:07 I'll write it in my notes first.
04:09 I don't want the speech bubble there.
04:10 I'm sitting there and I'm really overthinking this.
04:13 I think it's like the old saying, "Measure twice, cut once."
04:17 That's an old saying?
04:18 Yeah, like the construction.
04:19 You know, construction, measure twice, cut once.
04:22 I like it.
04:23 Do you know this saying?
04:24 No.
04:25 You don't know it?
04:26 No, but it makes sense.
04:27 It's an old thing, like measure twice, cut once.
04:28 Do you know it?
04:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:30 Classic.
04:31 I feel like you can apply that to the digital age and technology where it's like, just reread
04:35 it, take a second, and if you want to send it, then send it.
04:38 You're crying to me on the phone again.
04:41 I think this conversation needs to end.
04:44 Remember you're not the only one in this.
04:48 I want to speak, but you won't even talk to me.
04:54 Not until you'd like to see all the things we could be and incentivize things that you
05:05 internalize.
05:08 I'd rather tell you a lie before predicting what I don't know could lead into false hope.
05:16 Lying can be very useful.
05:17 I mean, yeah, because you don't want to do anything to hurt people in a situation like
05:24 what the song is talking about.
05:25 I feel like maybe it's not so much about literally lying, but I think just exercising a certain
05:31 level of restraint.
05:32 I like that point, yeah.
05:33 It's not necessarily lying, it's just putting a restraint on the truth a little bit so there's
05:37 no unnecessary hurt feelings for like ... I know what you mean.
05:41 It's actually ... It's good.
05:44 But I promise I get your sentiment.
05:48 I wonder who's been at your apartment.
05:52 Would you give in or would you relent?
05:56 Who's been trying to get their signal sent?
05:59 I promise I get your sentiment.
06:03 I wonder who's been at your apartment.
06:06 I promise I get your sentiment.
06:10 I wonder who's been at your apartment.
06:13 Yeah, and this whole chorus is ... It's really the only real confessional moment of the song.
06:19 It's like, if you really want to know, of course I get your fears of what I might be,
06:26 of who I might be with, or what might be going on.
06:28 I wonder who's been over at your place too.
06:30 I wonder who's been trying to get at you as well.
06:33 Of course I'm curious about this.
06:35 So, yeah, it's like the moment where it kind of drives it home.
06:38 It's like, "I'll give you this."
06:39 And I never even said this.
06:41 I thought it'd be cool if the song was actually called "Your Department."
06:44 And it was about Lowe's, working in the garden section, working at the cash register, and
06:50 I wonder who's been at your department.
06:51 I thought that would've been really cool, but it's fine.