• 9 months ago
Vicky Pryce, Chief Economic Adviser at the Centre for Economic and Business Research spoke to CGTN Europe about why this has happened and whether it will fall further.
Transcript
00:00 Well, the real reason why inflation has come down is because energy prices have come down
00:05 and food prices have come down. Internationally, food prices have been falling for the last
00:09 year and a half, month after month, more or less. And of course, energy costs are considerably
00:13 less than where they were a year ago.
00:17 Inflation down. Of course, interest rates tend to, at the level they're at now, tend
00:22 to slow down demand and affect consumer confidence. But for the moment, most of the decline in
00:29 inflation we've seen has come really because of those international factors.
00:32 So everyone looking for this interest rate cut, of course. What do you think these inflation
00:38 figures mean for the timing of that?
00:41 Well, there's going to be a meeting tomorrow of the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank
00:45 of England, and they're going to look at the data. And our expectation generally is that
00:50 they're not going to do anything very much at all. Interest rates will stay at the 5.25
00:53 percent where they are. And that would be mainly because, well, it all depends what
00:58 happens in the US, of course. They will be waiting for the Fed to cut rates first. We've
01:02 seen the European Central Bank not cutting rates when they met a little while ago. So
01:07 I think there is going to be a coordinated cut, we're all suspecting, in interest rates,
01:13 but we're not quite at that point yet. I think what the Bank of England would be particularly
01:16 looking at is what's happening to services inflation, which is still just over 6 percent
01:22 year on year. So although the overall inflation figures, the headline inflation figures, have
01:27 fallen quite significantly, I think there are some concerning issues for them at any
01:31 rate, which will probably keep rates where they are for the time being.
01:35 This all has political implications, of course. What do you think this lower inflation and
01:39 perhaps at some point a cut in interest rates might mean for the timing of the UK election?
01:47 It will take a little bit of time for those changes to be reflected in people's willingness
01:51 to go out and spend a little bit more. Consumer confidence has gone up and down a little bit
01:55 over the last few months. So it was on its way up and then it sort of stabilised a little
02:00 bit. So I think people are waiting to see what the overall impact of what's going on
02:03 is going to be. First of all, of course, inflation being lower means that real wages are now
02:08 increasing. So that's good news for them. There have been some tax cuts that have taken
02:13 place. Some of them are becoming effective, of course, at the beginning of April. So they're
02:17 going to see a little bit more of that. Minimum wage is going up. So people are going to feel
02:21 a little bit wealthier, particularly if interest rates start coming down, mortgage rates are
02:27 coming down. Now, the question is, is all this going to be sufficient to make a difference
02:31 in terms of what the result of an election might be? And the expectation is that perhaps
02:37 not very much. And that is why we're now beginning to hear that the election is probably going
02:42 to be in the autumn and there may well be another fiscal event before that. In other
02:48 words, giving a little bit more help to both firms and individuals just before the election
02:53 is called. So we'll see what the difference, whether it makes a difference in fact to the
02:57 final outcome. You say it might take a while for people to start feeling this. What do
03:02 these numbers mean for the average person? Because, of course, there are still some inflationary
03:06 rises coming down the track. Mobile phone prices, water rates, for example. You're absolutely
03:12 right. And what's happening is, of course, that service inflation still remains quite
03:16 high. But the energy costs are very substantial part of what the average household has been
03:24 suffering from over the last year or so. And the lower you are down the income scale, what
03:30 really matters is food and energy. And those at least are moving in the right direction.
03:34 And we are likely to see in April a further decline in energy costs that people have to
03:41 pay because, of course, there is a price cap and that price cap is coming down by over
03:46 12 percent. So that's going to make quite a big difference. So people are going to feel
03:50 that they're keeping a bit more of their wage increases. So I think that's going to be quite
03:55 positive in terms of what may happen to growth in the economy. And the overall forecasts
03:59 are that there will be growth, perhaps under 1 percent, but at least it will be better
04:03 than just the point one percent we achieved in 2023. So do you think then that given these
04:08 figures, this will perhaps make it more likely that an election will be later rather than
04:13 sooner? If there is suddenly a change in people's views and the opinion polls that come out
04:21 say now inflation has come down so significantly, we feel considerably happier with the government
04:26 as is and the policies have really worked, then they might be tempted to have an early
04:29 election. But I'm suspecting what they really want to see is growth really picking up. And
04:35 for the moment, while interest rates are still high, that's not really happening. If you
04:39 look, yes, services are doing OK, but manufacturing isn't. It's been falling for more than a year
04:46 now, month after month. So that's a bit of an issue. And people are not necessarily still
04:52 feeling that there is enough certainty around them. So it might take a little bit of time.
04:56 So the faster interest rates come down, actually, the easier it would be, I think, for the government
05:00 to claim that growth can return. Vicky, great to talk to you. Thank you so much for joining

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