The Marshon Lattimore trade stuff keeps coming up. We explain again why the Saints shouldn't deal him and also how the compensation wouldn't line up.
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00:00 I do want to touch on this one too, and you got another question that the the March on stuff is coming up again
00:06 Adam is going to the 49ers for a better situation like you mentioned before
00:11 People still are under the impression that March on could be traded. We've talked about it on here
00:18 We don't think it's happening
00:20 We think that the fences need to be mended there a little bit and even if they did try to trade Marshawn
00:28 Alante could be an option to go outside too
00:30 but
00:32 This seems to come up, but I think with yet
00:35 I'm going somewhere else it makes keeping more Sean that much more important for this team. Yeah
00:40 Yeah, and look I don't think that the Saints should trade Marshawn Lattimore you pick 14th
00:45 So you might be able to like luck yourself into another very good corner in this year's class and all that especially with early runs
00:52 Expected or often to tackle quarterback and wide receiver
00:54 You'll see some of those other positions fall down
00:55 But don't create a need to then spend your first round pick to fill that need right?
01:00 and so I think that that's that's a big, you know thing, but
01:03 You know
01:04 I think that holding on the Marshall Lattimore is the best possible or the best case scenario for New Orleans should they be able to
01:10 Mend whatever, you know, you mentioned mend in defense like many whatever that break is
01:14 I think that that should be the priority first and then if things just get to a place where you can't do that
01:20 Then yeah, I like it's a bad choice. It's a crappy situation
01:24 But it's something that no team would want to be a part of or be stuck with including the New Orleans Saints
01:28 Or like stuck doing like having to trade him away
01:31 but if you have to you have to
01:33 But that's that's kind of on the on the organization to be able to kind of like get this where it needs to be
01:38 So I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Marshall Lattimore still in New Orleans in 2024
01:43 As more time passes and especially as you see the attrition from the Saints roster
01:49 It just makes more and more sense to keep them
01:52 So that that's I yeah, I'm in lockstep with you on that. I don't see the value in it
01:57 It would have to be a situation to where there's a fray and and that's what leads to the decision as opposed to oh
02:04 Is this good business practice right? Is this a good roster building? Is this good team building?
02:08 The answer to those questions in my opinion is no
02:10 Yeah, and DJ asked the question. What if they trade him and move up in the draft?
02:14 I don't think you're going to get as high of a
02:18 Price tag for Marshawn as people may think you're not getting a first-round pick for Marshawn. I just don't think it
02:24 I mean, it's just saying that the you know, we talked about the injuries aren't his fault
02:28 But if I'm a team looking at the injuries are a concern right the negotiating piece
02:33 Hey, it is a part of it and it's a negotiation and and obviously you're gonna have to take on that contract too
02:39 And so there are more factors than just being like well, I just want to trade this player
02:42 I mean you got to look at that from a team perspective
02:45 Whoever's gonna try to acquire him. There probably will be conversations at some point if things don't get you know
02:52 Mended between them and look they're gonna do that's what the goal is
02:57 They would rather keep a guy like Marshawn Lattimore on the roster because they still believe that he's a very good player for them
03:03 It's just again you look at the past couple of seasons. We mentioned this plenty. We're gonna keep saying this again
03:10 You keep losing football games when you're used to winning them for three straight years
03:14 I don't know that I would be too happy either. You know what I mean? They're short of it
03:19 I just I just think there's just too many
03:21 Variables there and and again, this is why it's so important for DA and Derek Carr
03:28 I say those two because they have all the huge hand in it. They gotta get it right because
03:31 Defensively, I feel the pieces are there
03:34 You've made the moves on the offensive staff to at least try to better yourself, right?
03:38 You're not doing the same thing you have been doing in a lot of ways
03:42 And so a lot hinges on on car a lot of hinges on this defense being able to kind of I don't say pick up
03:48 From where they left off, but they got to go out and prove that they are still a top flight defense
03:53 which I think it was and so
03:55 It's it's there right? It's there for them to be able to do and I just don't see that trading a guy like Marshawn unless
04:03 Things are just absolutely a hell in a handbasket that that's that's just on the table right now. I just don't yeah
04:08 Yeah, and I also don't even know that you're really in a position to trade Marshall and Lattimore for draft capital this year
04:14 So it feels like you don't have to wait until after June 1st to trade them because you need to defer that dead money instead
04:19 Of having it all accelerate into this year if you trade them away now
04:22 It depends on the terms of the agreement and things like that like you could sit there and say, okay
04:26 We'll take on some of this money and like you can get nifty with it
04:28 but the more that you do that the lower your return becomes because that that
04:33 organization is picking up extra pieces and all these other things and so I
04:38 Like I don't even think that you can make a move that impacts this year's draft that involves Marshall and Lattimore at least not
04:45 Fiscally, I don't think I mean, I guess you can make anything work
04:49 But again, the more that you play those little money games the the lesser and lesser your return becomes
04:54 For that player from the team that's trading for him
04:56 so it feels like you'd have to wait until after June 1st because you can't do a post June 1 trade and
05:01 Like designate it for later
05:03 You have to you have to actually wait until after June 1 to do any of those other things which then allows you the deferment
05:10 On the salary cap and all these other sort of like mechanics and things like that that help teams out
05:13 I just it doesn't seem likely that you're gonna be able to do that there
05:18 So it feels like if a trade is going to happen
05:20 Kind of feels like it's gonna happen like June 2
05:22 Through that week before the season starts when that bonus is supposed to that option bonus is supposed to kick in for it
05:28 And unless I'm understanding things incorrectly
05:30 It just doesn't feel likely that you're gonna make any kind of move with him. That's gonna impact your draft this year
05:35 No, I don't think so. I just don't see it. I really don't and of course people are gonna continue to do that
05:41 I mean, I got on my soapbox last year last week about everything, but I keep seeing this fake
05:47 Image of Michael Thomas signing with the Falcons. It hasn't happened. It's not really I haven't seen
05:54 Like I'm looking at you Facebook, there's the most
06:01 Just start stuff. I mean it is that's bad
06:04 I mean, you know anybody can create these images and make it look good. I mean even on X Twitter
06:13 I don't want to call it X because it's not X they can get these accounts that pay for blue checkmark
06:19 I mean anybody can make up anything now and it'll pass but
06:23 No
06:25 Just be smart guys
06:28 Cover the team that know about things if it's too good to be true. It's probably not too good
06:33 But you know, it's not it's just not if you have to ask is this person legitimate the answer is no
06:40 Usually correct. Correct. Yeah
06:45 Ross yeah
06:47 No
06:49 I was gonna say I was gonna mention real quick to the people have to also realize remember not realize
06:55 But remember to that like right now is when draft capital in terms of draft capital versus veteran player draft capital is at its lowest
07:02 Value and so what you see is seventh round picks traded for Joe Mixon
07:06 You see six round picks traded for Justin Fields
07:09 Like this is kind of when those day three picks for veteran players becomes a reality
07:14 And and so that's another reason that you kind of look at it and go
07:17 Yeah, well, maybe this isn't the time to make a move for anything that's gonna happen this year
07:23 Although the Saints were for for fifth round picks could be interesting, but then you're taking on a contract you didn't negotiate
07:28 So anyway, I just wanted to mention that in terms of like draft capital
07:32 Value and how it shifts it changes
07:35 Yep tons. I mean and there's a team that might get needy in it
07:40 You know you use the for those who you know, look at the trading aspect
07:43 Everybody still goes off the Jimmy Johnson formula. He assigned the value of those picks and so it's like you think oh
07:50 Well, three fifth rounders will get you into X round reality is it's probably not and it depends on the team
07:56 It depends on what the situation is
07:58 So many factors and in the draft day is just absolutely insane