Les dirigeants français, allemands et polonais se sont réunis vendredi à Berlin pour discuter du renforcement de l'aide à l'Ukraine.
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00:00 French, German and Polish leaders met in Berlin on Friday to discuss strengthening
00:05 aid to Ukraine.
00:06 This meeting is taking place in a context of tension between Paris and Berlin regarding
00:11 the red lines to be established with Russia, as well as the delivery of equipment and the
00:14 development of European defense.
00:16 Interview.
00:17 The explanation session was more than necessary between Paris and Berlin.
00:22 While the European allies of Ukraine, in difficulty on the ground, are seeking to emphasize
00:28 their military support in Kiev, an emergency meeting was convened in the German capital,
00:32 Friday, March 15, between France, Germany and Poland.
00:36 It is taking place in a particularly tense climate between Emmanuel Macron and Olaf
00:41 Scholz, since the support conference in Ukraine organized at the Elysée on February 26.
00:46 The exit of the French president who had stated that sending troops to Ukraine could not
00:50 be excluded threw a cold blow on relations with Germany, which was in a hurry to categorically
00:55 reject this option.
00:56 Thursday, during a television interview devoted to the issues of aid to Ukraine, the French
01:02 president struck the nail, stating that the West had put too many limits on excluding
01:06 the shipment of medium-range tanks or missiles to Kiev, before crossing these red lines
01:10 in the face of the evolution of the conflict.
01:12 These turbulences within the Franco-German couple are not new.
01:15 Since the start of the large-scale conflict in Ukraine, strategic divergences have appeared
01:21 on the distribution of support to Kiev, the purchase and delivery of military equipment
01:25 or even the vision of strengthening the European defense.
01:28 To analyze these questions, France 24 spoke with Léo Péria-Pénier, specialist researcher
01:34 on security issues at IFRI and author of a study on the new German defense policy.
01:39 How should we interpret these tensions between France and Germany on the issue of troops
01:44 on the ground in Ukraine?
01:45 Léo Péria-Pénier, first of all, it is worth mentioning that Emmanuel Macron never said
01:50 that he would send troops on the ground, but that it was not necessary to exclude the idea.
01:54 This exit caused a slightly exaggerated media outburst.
01:58 But it is true that on the German side it aroused a stir.
02:01 The adjoint chancellor, Robert Abeck, had opened fire by saying that Paris would be better
02:07 to focus on the delivery of weapons.
02:10 The reactions to these statements reflect quite well the difference in appreciation in Europe
02:14 on the approach to be taken against Russia.
02:16 Emmanuel Macron's words were appreciated by the countries of Eastern Europe, very
02:21 worried and demanding a sharp and firm speech.
02:23 The Poles, in particular, had criticized the position of the French president when he declared
02:29 in 2022 that Russia should not be humiliated and that it should be given security guarantees.
02:34 But for Berlin and part of the French political class, the new exit of the president is perceived
02:39 as a useless provocation against Moscow.
02:41 Germany has the feeling that France speaks a lot and acts little, delivering less weapons
02:46 to Ukraine than its neighbor, which remains by far the first European support for Kiev
02:50 with nearly 18 billion military aid in its portfolio.