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00:00 An AEW original suspended, John Cena talks his planned heel turn, Paul Heyman's going

00:06 into the Hall of Fame and more.

00:08 I'm Oli Davis, and this is the WrestleTalk News.

00:19 Unfortunately over the years, when you read a story that contains the words Jeff Hardy

00:23 and 'suspended', you might assume the Enigma is the one on leave.

00:29 But according to Fightful Select, this time Jeff Hardy is the literally injured party,

00:34 and it's AEW original Sammy Guevara who's been suspended.

00:38 So here is the strange history of Guevara and the Hardys in AEW.

00:43 Jeff has had a cursed run in AEW since he debuted on the 9th March 2022, reuniting the

00:50 Hardy Boys with his brother Matt, where they would go on to beat the Young Bucks at Double

00:54 or Nothing, reportedly positioning them for a tag team title run.

00:58 But despite early promise, and the Bucks and Hardys having a classic feud back in 2017

01:04 Ring of Honor, that Double or Nothing match was a disaster.

01:08 It kept falling apart because Jeff had suffered a terrible concussion that left him "almost

01:13 knocked out" according to Matt.

01:15 And a month later, on the 14th June, just three months into his run, AEW announced that

01:21 Jeff was indefinitely suspended without pay after he was arrested for DUI.

01:27 Jeff returned in April 2023, but he was never pushed to the extent of his debuting months.

01:33 Instead, the Hardy Boys were booked in a feud that is the polar opposite of going for the

01:37 tag team titles.

01:41 Wrestling the Firm.

01:45 After nine months of practically just wrestling on Rampage, Jeff's 2024 resolution appeared

01:50 to be "get a main roster push".

01:53 He confessed on Matt Hardy's podcast that he felt like a ghost in AEW, and he even posted

01:58 on his Instagram "We the Hardyz will not be appearing on this live show called AEW

02:04 Dynamite.

02:05 We the Hardyz are stuck in the dimension of AEW Rampage."

02:10 Whether it was a shoot, a work, or a work shoot, Shooty McWorkface, Much Love, HH Kiss,

02:16 Jeff started to get treatment similar to when he first came into AEW.

02:20 He had a fantastic match against Darby Allin on the 17th January Rampage.

02:25 Then the following week, he got his first singles match on Dynamite since 2023's match

02:30 of the year, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre Deathmatch, on the 16th August.

02:35 Jeff put on a great showing against Swerve Strictland, and also put over Jon Moxley on

02:39 Dynamite the week after that.

02:41 But then on the 14th February Rampage taping for an episode that would air two days later,

02:46 Hardy got another singles match.

02:48 This time, under no DQ rules, against Sammy Guevara.

02:53 And that's where the suspension comes in.

02:55 The news of an injury to Jeff came out as soon as it happened.

02:59 Guevara hit a shooting star press, but his knee connected hard with Jeff's face.

03:04 The referee Paul Turner started talking to the ringside physician Doc Samson, and Sammy

03:08 got Jeff up for the GTH to win.

03:11 There were fears Jeff was concussed, and an odd scene was caught on camera in the post-match

03:16 of both Jeff and his brother Matt angrily swearing at Sammy, as Jeff could barely walk

03:21 and had to be supported by medical personnel.

03:24 At the time, though, a work shoot injury angle and the Hardys swearing at Sammy didn't

03:29 seem out of the realms of storyline possibility.

03:32 Jeff had already been using social media to potentially further his own work to shoot

03:36 frustration, and Matt had his own history of concussions with Guevara.

03:41 Matt vs Sammy at AEW All Out 2020 was one of the most controversial incidents of early

03:47 AEW, when a spot went wrong and Hardy's head smashed on concrete.

03:52 The match was allowed to continue, and AEW faced fierce criticism for not stopping it

03:56 sooner.

03:57 But sadly, the recent incident between Jeff and Sammy isn't long term booking.

04:01 It was, as Matt said on his podcast, the curse.

04:05 It looks like the Sammy Guevara/Hardy curse is real.

04:08 It lives on.

04:09 We thought it ended in 2020, but it picked back up in 2024.

04:14 Fightful Select's report writes that following the Jeff match on Rampage, Sammy was suspended

04:19 because concussion protocol was not followed, which resulted in Sammy Guevara hitting his

04:23 finisher on Hardy, which we're told shouldn't have happened.

04:28 Sammy wrestled an ODQ match against Powerhouse Hobbs on the following week's episode of

04:32 Collision, which was presumably to write him off TV.

04:34 He hasn't been seen on AEW TV since the 24th February, and the Fightful Select report

04:39 doesn't note the expected length of the suspension.

04:42 There's not enough information here to know what truly happened.

04:45 Was the information properly communicated to Sammy?

04:48 Was there a misunderstanding where the referee called for the finish, and Sammy thought he

04:52 meant 'hit your finish'?

04:54 We know the outcome - Jeff is out injured and Sammy is suspended - but we don't know

04:58 what actually went down in the chaos of that moment.

05:01 So please don't start jumping to conclusions or blame.

05:04 What we can do, though, is carry on with this story of the Guevara/Hardy curse.

05:08 Because it appears to go both ways.

05:11 Just as Jeff's AEW run since mid-2022 has appeared cursed, so has Sammy's.

05:16 After several poorly received hot potato months with both the TNT title and Sammy being a

05:21 heel or babyface, Guevara joined the JAS the day after Jeff got suspended for DUI.

05:28 This started a build for Sammy vs Eddie Kingston at that Summer's All Out.

05:33 But it never happened.

05:34 Sammy called Kingston a fat piece of S-word in a promo, but hadn't cleared that content

05:39 with Kingston in advance.

05:41 Eddie confronted him about that backstage, where Sammy just reportedly smiled.

05:46 So Kingston piefaced him and got suspended.

05:48 Eddie has since said he was in the wrong.

05:51 And then a month after that, Sammy was involved in another backstage altercation, when Andrade

05:56 confronted him at a TV taping after they had a heated exchange on Twitter, where Guevara

06:01 claimed Andrade was only hired by AEW because Ric Flair was his father-in-law.

06:08 Guevara has previously been suspended himself back in 2020, when inappropriate comments

06:12 he'd made about Sasha Banks on a 2016 podcast resurfaced.

06:16 Good luck that Sasha Banks isn't coming to AEW anytime soon then.

06:20 You don't want more people having heat with Sammy.

06:22 Oh crap, she's called Mercedes Manet now.

06:25 Interestingly, with Jungle Boy Jack Perry also kind of indefinitely suspended following

06:30 All In's backstage clash with CM Punk - he's currently over in New Japan - MJF taking time

06:35 off to heal from injuries, and Darby Allin set for an extended break to kind Mount Everest,

06:40 for the first time in the promotion's history, none of AEW's original four pillars will

06:47 be around.

06:48 It's classic last two years of AEW.

06:50 Put on one of the best shows of all time, then it turns out there's some backstage

06:54 controversy a few days later.

06:56 So let's leave AEW for now on some positives.

06:59 Will Ospreay is freaking great.

07:02 Not my words, but those of veterans backstage in AEW, as Dave Meltzer writes.

07:08 Another big thing noted to us was the reaction of the stars from the past to Will Ospreay

07:13 and the match with Konosuke Takeshita.

07:15 Many people there who had been in the business for decades had never seen an Ospreay match,

07:20 although had heard of him.

07:21 It was noted that they couldn't believe how good he was.

07:25 And continuing the wrestling positivity, congratulations to Paul Heyman for being announced

07:32 as the first inductee into the 2024 Hall of Fame.

07:36 Apparently this isn't the first time Heyman has been asked.

07:39 According to Wrestling Observer Radio, Heyman has previously turned down an induction because

07:43 he still considers himself an active performer, and only wants to go in once his career is

07:48 over.

07:49 So what's changed?

07:50 Two answers there.

07:52 Triple H and Philadelphia.

07:54 This year's WrestleMania is being held in Philadelphia, which is the spiritual home

07:58 of Heyman's Extreme Championship Wrestling.

08:01 And with Vince McMahon gone, this is the first ever Paul Levesque chosen class.

08:06 Which might be why Heyman wanted to be a part of it.

08:09 In terms of just how active Heyman still is, he's revealed to the New York Post just

08:13 how much input he has on the Bloodline creative.

08:16 "I carry a significant voice in how we are portrayed and presented.

08:21 That includes everything from camera angles to music to storylines."

08:25 Another rumoured name to join Heyman in the Hall of Fame is Haku - who The Rock considers

08:30 family.

08:31 Check out our Bloodline Family Tree Explained video for how that works.

08:35 It's confusing.

08:36 He's also the uncle of former New Japan star Tama Tonga, who's reportedly on his

08:40 way to WWE imminently.

08:43 And most importantly, Haku only just recently saw the Shockmaster debut for the first time.

08:49 Haku there.

08:58 A man so scary, Jake Roberts once said "If I had a gun and was sitting inside a tank

09:03 with one shell left, and Meng [Haku] is 300 yards away, he's mine, right?

09:08 Well, the first thing I'm going to do is jump out of the tank and shoot myself, because

09:13 I don't want to wound that son of a bitch and have him pissed off at me."

09:16 In a new interview with Chris Van Vliet - links in the video description below - John Cena

09:20 has spoken about the heel turn WWE had planned for him ahead of his once in a lifetime match

09:26 against The Rock in 2012.

09:28 "I heard rumblings of 'we're going to do it' and in 48 hours I had a new track,

09:33 a new studio mix theme song, final mix, I had seven new singlets, low cut singlets with

09:38 boxing type robes, I already had the boots in storage so I dusted them off.

09:42 I was ready to go, already thinking about what I could do with the story."

09:47 Cena explains that he was just going to do the complete opposite of his character at

09:52 the time.

09:53 So a wrestler I actually like?

09:57 By contrasting his jorts with singlets, his sneakers with boots, even down to his character's

10:02 approach to wrestling.

10:03 "I would begin to not work as hard.

10:06 I would show up less.

10:07 I would be untrustworthy, unloyal.

10:09 I would lack respect in what I did.

10:11 I would give up a lot."

10:14 So Roman Reigns now.

10:16 But in doing the opposite of everything then-John Cena stood for, it would be a huge financial

10:21 and moral hit.

10:23 Because not only was Cena considering pulling all his merchandise from WWE shop because

10:28 fans wearing his shirts was old Cena, he would also stop doing the make-a-wish visits that

10:33 benefited so many.

10:34 When WWE considered the reality of that, they pulled the plans.

10:38 How would you have turned Cena heel in 2012?

10:41 Let me know in the comments.

10:42 Little WrestleTalk update, but here at the end of January, we decided to trial not doing

10:47 SmackDown reviews on Saturdays.

10:49 Those videos weren't really getting the amount of views they needed, and it meant

10:52 a lot of people here could actually go back to having weekends for themselves.

10:57 And besides, over the previous six months, we looked at all the episodes, SmackDown just

11:04 wasn't that much of a newsworthy show.

11:07 And then it became the most newsworthy show and created arguably the hottest period in

11:12 WWE history.

11:14 Literally, the week after we decided to pause SmackDown reviews was the week The Rock took

11:20 Cody's spot, and we ended up doing an emergency podcast anyway.

11:24 So from this weekend on our WrestleTalk Podcast channel, Sat-E Day returns with Dan Layton

11:30 this Saturday and Luke for the following two weeks for a big hour-plus deep dive into the

11:35 previous night's SmackDown.

11:37 Just for clarity, there won't be a WrestleTalk News video on that day, so we're going to

11:42 carry on with our pre-made and advanced feature videos, which have been pretty well received

11:47 so far on the main WrestleTalk channel.

11:49 We're going to trial all that up to WrestleMania to see how it goes, so go over to our WrestleTalk

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