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۔PTI Chief to write letter to IMF - Barrister Ali Zafar Gives Inside News
۔"Mujhe yeh statement maqool nahi laga," Ather Kazmi's reaction on Bani PTI's decision
۔"Khan Sahab ko sochna chahiye....," Aamir Ilyas Rana criticizes Bani PTI
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00:00 Asalam-o-Alaikum, viewers, you are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi.
00:04 Post-election issues are going on.
00:07 Political issues are on their own.
00:09 Today, the decision to protest against the departure of the Jamiatul Ulma-e-Islam has been made.
00:14 Other Jamaats are also protesting.
00:16 So, on one hand, this is the matter.
00:17 On the other hand, the issue of government is being taken forward.
00:20 Today, the reserved seats of the Punjab Assembly and Sindh Assembly were announced a little while ago.
00:26 The Sunni Tahaat Council has not been given a seat as per the news so far.
00:31 We have to see whether they will be given seats.
00:35 There is a little confusion in this as the news has just come in.
00:38 Whether all the seats and their list have been issued or some seats have been stopped.
00:45 I have seen in the news that some seats have not been decided yet.
00:49 We will talk about this.
00:50 A statement was given from the side of justice today.
00:53 I met Mr. Imran Khan in the jail of some leaders.
00:56 I came out of there.
00:57 Ali Zafar gave a statement.
01:00 And this was about the conversation with the IMF.
01:03 What did Ali Zafar say?
01:05 First listen to this.
01:06 Because after this statement, I felt that for the life of me, I could not understand what justice wants to do.
01:14 But I thought about it.
01:16 First listen to what he said.
01:18 Now we will go to the IMF on behalf of Imran Khan.
01:22 In that, we will clearly say that if the IMF wants to talk,
01:26 first it should clarify the condition that the rigging that has been done,
01:30 all the rings, there should be an audit on those rings.
01:33 Not the Free Audit Team Election Commission of Pakistan.
01:36 If it is made under the leadership of the Supreme Court of Pakistan, then it is very good.
01:40 After that, the IMF should talk to the government.
01:43 Because without it, if this audit does not take place,
01:45 this donation is not completed,
01:48 then any kind of step of giving a loan to the IMF will be harmful for Pakistan.
01:55 The IMF's loan-giving step will be harmful.
01:59 The audit should be done first.
02:01 After that, the IMF should talk.
02:03 We all know that for a long time, it has been said that our economy is on a ventilator.
02:08 It needs IMF injections.
02:11 If the IMF does not come, then you will remember that a whole narrative was made
02:15 that Pakistan was going to default.
02:17 There was no position to default.
02:19 So, Zubair Sahib and Mr. Mifta Sahib told you,
02:21 in the last few months,
02:23 that we were not defaulting.
02:25 We will default only if we do not go to the IMF program.
02:28 When you go to the IMF program,
02:30 then many other donors also give you loans.
02:34 The direction of the economy is formed and other people's trust is developed in it.
02:40 Why was this statement given?
02:42 Can the IMF audit you?
02:44 If, suppose,
02:46 I personally believe that
02:48 when the IMF gives you a loan,
02:52 it is a very political decision.
02:54 Whenever it wants, it stops it.
02:56 And the Americans play a key role in this.
03:00 If the IMF has decided to give a loan,
03:03 then it will not make a difference to Mr. Imran Khan or anyone else.
03:06 But what impression is being created?
03:08 If the default is $300, $400, $500,
03:12 then it does not make a difference.
03:14 But first, the election results should be corrected.
03:16 I can understand Mr. Tariq An's grievances.
03:19 He thinks that his election was stolen.
03:21 But is the solution to this that the IMF should be written such letters?
03:26 Before this, you must remember,
03:28 a phone call was very controversial.
03:30 The then Finance Minister,
03:32 Mr. Shaukat Tareen,
03:38 Mr. Taimur Jagda,
03:40 Mr. Mohsin Laghari,
03:42 and other such IMF officials were asked to write letters.
03:45 Mr. Tariq An had to face a lot of criticism.
03:48 Today, a few people have gone and this discussion has taken place.
03:52 What was the need for this?
03:54 Without this, a very potent case,
03:57 Mr. Tariq An is fighting,
03:59 he is also fighting on the media,
04:01 he is also fighting on legal forums.
04:03 So what was the need for this?
04:05 We will talk about this too.
04:07 A statement has come from the Commissioner.
04:10 You must remember, Commissioner,
04:12 Liaquat Ali Chatha had given a statement earlier.
04:14 It was a press conference.
04:16 He said that he had changed the results.
04:19 He said that he had decided to commit suicide.
04:22 But the guilt was so great that he came and said that I am responsible for this.
04:27 Today, another statement has come from him.
04:29 He took a U-turn.
04:31 A statement has come, which is supposedly signed by him.
04:35 It has been written to the Secretary Election Commission.
04:37 All channels have run it.
04:39 He said that I was retiring on March 13.
04:42 I became friends with Tariq An during his rule with senior leaders.
04:46 He told me to play my role in making statements about Tariq An.
04:51 He also writes that I wanted to write all this in my resignation,
04:57 but he said that he did not want to write it in his resignation.
04:59 He said that he wanted to hold a press conference.
05:01 So I called a press conference at PSL and gave all the speeches.
05:04 I said that I have helped in changing the results.
05:08 I gave very emotional and sweeping statements according to his new statement.
05:13 He also said that the top leadership of Tariq An wants the name of Chief Justice of Pakistan to be included in it.
05:21 He also said that the name of Chief Election Commissioner should be included in it so that questions can be raised on the whole process.
05:28 I gave a press conference on the same day when Tariq An announced the protest.
05:35 I did not give any order to any of the members of the party.
05:38 Even the Chief Election Commissioner did not pass any instructions.
05:43 And because I do not want to create any more chaos, I do not want to take the name of the senior leader of PTI.
05:49 There are many questions about where Chatha sir is.
05:52 Since the press conference, he has been missing from the screen.
05:56 After that, this statement has come.
05:58 We will also talk about this and also discuss the challenges of Pakistan.
06:03 Thank you very much for being with us, Mr. Muslim Anwar Koker.
06:06 Thank you, Mr. Amir Ali Asadani.
06:08 If you allow me, I will start the PTI statement from here.
06:11 How do you see this PTI statement, the one that has been discussed about the IMF program, that it should not be done?
06:18 I have just heard the entire statement of the PM.
06:22 Earlier, I had heard his clips in between.
06:24 He said that he would write an open letter.
06:26 I was recording a program with Mansoor sir.
06:29 I have just heard his statement.
06:31 I do not think this statement is reasonable.
06:33 I do not think it was necessary to make this statement at this time.
06:38 You could have done many more things.
06:41 If you have an international watchdog who watches the elections,
06:45 you could have told them to watch the elections.
06:49 As it is, there are voices from the British government to the EU on the international level.
06:56 You can put the IMF in the middle and say that God forbid, do not give money to Pakistan and it will cause losses.
07:02 But the other side of this is that all this is related to politics.
07:06 When the IMF was supposed to give money, what did they do?
07:10 They went to the world, they met and talked.
07:14 Although at that time their government was over.
07:16 They were in opposition.
07:18 They were not in the assemblies.
07:20 So that the program does not get interrupted.
07:22 So that everyone owns the program.
07:24 So you said that there is a political aspect to this.
07:27 But I think the way you have given this statement is a very inappropriate statement.
07:31 Why would you make such a statement?
07:33 I mean, any politician will first look at both sides of this.
07:37 Is there any benefit in writing my letter?
07:40 Which you will get your own answer from within that you will not benefit from it.
07:45 Because whatever they have to do, they have to do it according to their own politics and their own preferences.
07:49 If they want to do it, they will do everything without your letter.
07:52 If they do not want to do it and they have to give the program, then there is no benefit of your letter.
07:56 Where was politics in all this?
07:58 Why don't they understand what this conversation is?
08:02 Why don't they understand what they are talking about?
08:04 What does the IMF have to do with the IMF?
08:06 If this statement is described in one word, then I think it is highly irresponsible.
08:12 Irresponsible.
08:13 Very irresponsible.
08:15 Let's suppose that we all know that our facility of 3 billion dollars is ending in March.
08:24 And after March, Pakistan needs a new program.
08:27 Analysts and financial experts are saying that Pakistan needs a program of up to 6 billion dollars.
08:33 And that is because you need it not only to stabilize your economy,
08:39 but also to help the 25 crore people in this country whose lives have been ruined by us,
08:45 who have been ruined by us, that today it has become difficult for them to spend their month,
08:50 their week, their day.
08:52 So we are not paying attention to correcting our mistakes.
08:57 Until we do not correct our mistakes, we will not be able to manage the economy.
09:00 And the 25 crore people will continue to pay the price.
09:03 And to give such a statement as a result of which you know that the lives of those 25 crore people will become more difficult.
09:10 If God forbid.
09:11 If they agree with you.
09:13 If God forbid.
09:14 And they say that we do not give the program.
09:15 So what will happen?
09:16 Let's understand the consequences of this.
09:18 Default.
09:19 Yes.
09:20 How much will the dollar go?
09:21 The dollar can cross up to 1000.
09:22 It can cross up to 1000.
09:23 Yes.
09:24 And the election we are talking about should be a fair election.
09:28 Look, there is no objection to anyone running their campaign that they think that the election has been a fair election.
09:35 Fairness should be there.
09:36 Research should be done.
09:37 But the consequences of this, they have thought that what can be the result of this?
09:41 I think that disregarding the lives of 25 crore people and not bringing this into the picture at all,
09:49 that what will happen to them if the country defaults and does not get money.
09:53 We will do our politics within the given environment of Pakistan.
09:58 And if we have been wronged in that, we will fight for it in this given environment.
10:03 And here we have forums.
10:05 I think that all those forums are seriously compromised.
10:08 Election Commission is compromised.
10:10 There is no expectation of justice from the Supreme Court.
10:12 Our judicial system has failed to give justice.
10:15 And especially in the case of elections, the repressive environment that has been there,
10:19 there is no relief in that repression.
10:22 And the history is not good that people have gone to the criminals and they have got justice.
10:28 5-5 years of cases, although there is a condition of 120 days.
10:31 But they themselves decide whether to accept or not.
10:35 Now it has been handled in such a blatant way that I myself was hopeful from Islamabad and two other circles.
10:42 And the Form 45 is present with all of us as evidence, not just with me.
10:48 The candidates of Tariq-e-Labbaik are also present.
10:52 The candidates of Jamaat-e-Islami are also present.
10:54 The candidates of People's Party are also present.
10:56 So the request is that what we are doing is based on evidence.
11:00 Everyone can see it, but the Chief Election Commissioner cannot see it.
11:02 The Chief Election Commissioner cannot see it.
11:04 And I am also saddened by the fact that in the circle of Supreme Court judges,
11:08 who have colonies in which they have their own residences,
11:13 if this can happen in that circle, then what will be happening in the rest of the country?
11:16 And there is a dare that someone's ear is ringing.
11:20 So we are fine, we have all these grievances, but for these grievances,
11:24 the forums that we will use, we will do this and we will not think that if our words are not being heard,
11:30 then we will put the financial security of the whole country at stake.
11:35 So I think this is a very irresponsible statement they have given.
11:40 If a blatant statement is made, then it may not be wrong.
11:43 You were talking about elections.
11:46 The Inter-Party Elections were right.
11:48 There is no difference between small elections.
11:50 Sir, tell me one thing.
11:52 This politician has been a politician for 25-30 years.
11:58 I am saying this again and again because when I saw this statement,
12:03 I said that this is not right.
12:05 This cannot happen.
12:07 How can they make a statement?
12:08 And especially when you have already been pressurized,
12:14 like a phone call was made to two finance ministers.
12:17 In the last program, when I took the name and asked,
12:21 when the country's economy's Taimur was talking,
12:23 I said that there is audio, so the country's economy was sitting there.
12:27 He did not say it till the end.
12:29 So now what you are talking about, and you have called him brother.
12:31 I would like to take Ali Zafar on the line.
12:33 It was surprising for me that Ali Zafar came out and conveyed this.
12:37 It is surprising for me that I am sitting here.
12:40 Please, please.
12:43 No, no, you tell me.
12:45 No, no, no, I am not trying to understand.
12:48 You have declared this statement as wrong.
12:52 You have declared it irresponsible.
12:54 And this is surprising for them.
12:56 It is inappropriate.
12:58 This is an inappropriate statement.
13:03 They are getting the results according to what they wanted.
13:05 So they will do the same thing ten times.
13:07 If they do not want to understand, then you took the name of the people.
13:10 I was with them in a show yesterday.
13:12 I said that such people are present in this party,
13:14 they are being seen to be on the way.
13:16 Who are you talking about?
13:17 Ali Zafar.
13:18 He is becoming the chairman of the party.
13:19 No, no, I am saying that such people are present.
13:21 You know that the party is becoming the chairman.
13:23 Now they are resigning from the senatorship.
13:25 No, the party is becoming the chairman.
13:26 No, no, he is the senator of PTI.
13:28 Keep this in mind.
13:29 He is in one party and in the other party.
13:31 That is why Barrister Gohar.
13:33 He announced the election on the 3rd.
13:34 Yes, yes, Barrister Gohar and Umar Ayub.
13:39 Why did they follow the law?
13:41 No, no, no, I am telling you,
13:43 the brothers who spoke under the nose,
13:45 their anger is fine, whatever happened.
13:47 But not under this nose,
13:49 those nose people had ordered to stop Imran Khan's counting in 2018.
13:54 They only stayed on Kasim Suri.
13:57 Leave the rest, what happened below.
13:59 This was the election of 2018.
14:01 I have been working on this for many days,
14:03 today is the fifth day,
14:04 but after Khan's statement,
14:06 I am getting another chance from IMF
14:09 to tell their Gandapur,
14:11 these are our conditions in the parliament,
14:13 to approve this,
14:15 first you fix the election for the future,
14:17 this, this, cover it with a meme like a mirror,
14:20 that we want the election to be right.
14:22 So much debate in the parliament,
14:24 they are also sitting, they are doing everything,
14:26 from 2013 to 2018, everyone is talking about themselves,
14:28 what are they doing?
14:30 You are getting a way, you first put a condition,
14:32 why did you come?
14:33 IMF kept giving votes to Amro,
14:35 kept giving money,
14:36 whose vote is sitting on whom?
14:38 They are deciding on their own politics.
14:40 They want their money back, everyone.
14:42 We don't have the money of only one IMF,
14:44 we have to give to the whole world.
14:46 So they are giving us so much,
14:48 we cannot even default,
14:50 we cannot even give our own money.
14:52 So I am saying that when there is seriousness,
14:54 Mr. Khan should think about getting out of his own self.
14:56 We cannot live without this.
14:58 Until you, what both my brothers said,
15:00 will not think about the country,
15:02 and in the decision,
15:04 you have many incidents in the parliament,
15:06 and are present in the start,
15:08 you take a way, give a way.
15:10 Right, one point was coming to my mind,
15:12 related to this debate,
15:14 that you must remember that
15:16 Mr. Shaukat Tareen called,
15:18 he was from Punjab,
15:20 and he said that we have to write a letter like this,
15:22 and in that recording of Mohsin Laghari,
15:24 there was an answer,
15:26 he said that this will not be against the national interest.
15:28 And in that, Mr. Tareen and Mr. Taimur Jagda said,
15:30 the chairman has said,
15:32 let's go that way.
15:34 Now the person who said that this will not be against the national interest,
15:38 what happened to that person later?
15:40 In our politics,
15:42 we should not even increase the taxes so much.
15:44 Now the same person who said about the national interest,
15:46 in his party,
15:48 he refused to listen to Mr. Shaukat Tareen,
15:50 later,
15:52 to get rid of his relationship with his party,
15:54 what was done to him,
15:56 that cannot be stated on this TV channel,
15:58 that the burden he went through.
16:00 So when we talk about national interest,
16:02 we are all Pakistanis,
16:04 we understand it,
16:06 we stand on it,
16:08 today we are condemning the way of justice,
16:10 so the rest of the people should also think that
16:12 they are not the only guardians.
16:14 We are all citizens of this country.
16:16 We are all Pakistanis.
16:18 Yes, we are all Pakistanis.
16:20 Coming back to this argument of IMF election,
16:22 can you do anything about the IMF election?
16:24 I don't think the IMF can do anything,
16:26 to be honest,
16:28 we have not heard any statement in the past,
16:30 and the kind of elections that have taken place,
16:32 here you have a perfect thing in front of you.
16:34 You say about our history,
16:36 that the people of Pakistan,
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