Interview with the cast of Barbie: America Ferrera, Ryan Gosling, Margot Robbie.
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00:00 Yeah, there were some Bitcoin Ken comments that I think are clouding the issue.
00:04 Would you like to clear that up?
00:06 You want a Ken in your life.
00:13 If you're not a Ken, you want a Ken around.
00:15 You totally want to be a Ken.
00:16 We need more Kens.
00:18 I mean, we need Ken by the end.
00:19 We need, like, liberated Kens.
00:21 We need, like, you know, it's about, like, all of us getting to be all the things that we are.
00:27 That's the thing, like, I wanted this movie to be a hug for people where they were.
00:34 And I think, you know, I mean, not to be sort of to give away the whole thing, but like,
00:42 you know, where Ken starts out at the beginning of the movie is Ken is like an afterthought
00:46 and he's an accessory and she doesn't really think about him.
00:50 She's not mean.
00:51 She just doesn't consider him.
00:52 And that's like pretty unsustainable.
00:55 You know, there's a lot to make fun of the Kens about, especially in the beginning of the movie.
01:01 You know, kind of like how you see us in the trailer making, you know, trying to beat each
01:05 other off all the time.
01:06 I think that's very indicative of, like, kind of what the Ken mentality is.
01:10 And it kind of just comes from the fact that we don't really do anything.
01:14 And so when we don't have any jobs and we don't have any real purpose other than to kind of just
01:20 be an accessory to the Barbies, kind of really feel disempowered.
01:25 It's, you know, one of the just brilliant kind of ways that Greta turned Barbieland onto,
01:34 you know, just flipped, you know, traditional gender stereotypes over on its head and made
01:39 the Kens like the butt of the joke.
01:41 And, you know, what you get when you don't have a lot is like, Kens start to just compete
01:46 with each other and get really nasty for no reason.
01:49 Anyone who wants to beat him off has to beat me off first.
01:51 I will beat both of you off at the same time.
01:54 But you don't even know how to beat yourself off.
01:55 How are you going to beat both of us off?
01:56 It doesn't make sense.
01:57 Ken, why are you going to beat yourself off?
01:58 You're going to beat both of us off?
01:59 Come on, Ken.
02:00 Nobody's going to beat anyone off.
02:02 I mean, Ken really evolves in this movie past the place of just being a wonderful accessory
02:07 to Barbie, which, to be fair, he was kind of invented to be something that was included
02:12 in Barbie's life the way her material items were.
02:15 Best job in the world.
02:16 In the way that Ryan plays it, he's so funny, but he plays it from such a deep place inside
02:23 of him that you really feel for Ken.
02:25 I just don't know who I am without you.
02:27 You're Ken.
02:28 But it's Barbie and Ken.
02:31 There is no just Ken.
02:33 I mean, I didn't really think about Ken's journey because I just don't think about him.
02:37 But I do think that he goes through such a human experience and he's so vulnerable and
02:44 that's okay.
02:46 And he's learned so much and he only wants to be better and he just wants to be loved
02:50 by Barbie, which is admirable, but he becomes kind of his own man in the best way by the
02:57 end of the movie.
02:58 Yeah, men also suffer under patriarchy and I feel like that's the point of that part
03:05 of the film.
03:06 There are so many points that the film makes, but that it's not just women who are denied
03:12 half of their humanity by these boxes that we place ourselves in.
03:16 And I think that that is her journey and his journey and where they come to with each other
03:24 by the end, that they each evolve in their own way.
03:30 And that Barbie land improves because it becomes a more egalitarian place.
03:38 I think it's like I want to be speaking to men and women.
03:44 I don't just want it to be one thing.
03:48 I think Ken is confused.
03:51 And I don't know if he ever shakes that off.
03:54 I think that's relatable though.
03:55 I think it is confusing.
03:57 Life is confusing.
03:58 I think as much as there's moments where you get a great monologue where it's like, what
04:02 it's like to be a woman today and what it's like to be a mom and all that kind of stuff.
04:08 It's also, I don't know, I think we are in this time where guys are like, okay, what's
04:11 my place right now?
04:13 Like, I'm a dude and I'm trying to be an ally, but I'm trying to allow space and I'm trying
04:17 to listen, but I'm also trying to be there.
04:19 And like, you know, I think Ken's journey is kind of informative.
04:24 I love watching the evolution that he goes through.
04:28 I don't really know.
04:29 I don't know that there's a great takeaway for Ken other than just a sort of surrender.
04:37 Yeah.
04:38 Not trying to dominate.
04:42 You know, I think Ken's kind of come face to face with who they are, what they've become,
04:48 the journey that they've been on.
04:49 And I think, you know, well, I hope that they come to a similar conclusion that anyone would
04:56 in that situation, which is that it's always better to stick together and support one another
05:01 than to tear each other down.
05:03 And Kennergy doesn't always have to be, you know, aggressive horses, loud, you know, you
05:13 know, loud music and fur coats.
05:17 It can come from within and it comes from a sense of comfort with oneself and a self-confidence
05:25 that isn't projecting and isn't insecure.
05:28 Ryan and I have a thing where we text each other because I think Kennergy is actually
05:34 really positive, especially when it's like self-actualized Kennergy at the end.
05:38 Yes.
05:39 That's amazing Kennergy.
05:40 That's like what we all want to be going to is like amazing self-actualized Kennergy.
05:45 Yes.
05:46 Which women can have Kennergy too.
05:48 It's not just a male thing.
05:50 You know, if you want to get deep in the Barbie movie, it's about kind of evolving as yourself
05:56 and knowing that you are Kenuff.
05:59 Oh my gosh.
06:01 It's hard to follow that, but Ryan, what are your thoughts?
06:03 Not even gonna try?
06:04 Welcome to the experience.
06:05 I'm Mike and I'm just Ken.
06:09 (upbeat music)