Irshad Bhatti's analysis on Justice Ijaz ul Ahsan and Justice Naqvi's resignations

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00:00 I want to ask Bhatti sahib, I have told you the background, I am not repeating it.

00:06 But Bhatti sahib, don't you think that, it is clear that as Mohsin said,

00:13 one judge is going against Mazair Naqvi sahib and another judge, Ijaz-ul-Ahsan sahib,

00:18 who is a part of the same case, Supreme Judicial Council case, they are on the same side.

00:23 But just because of this disagreement, a senior judge of Pakistan, who is going to be the next Chief Justice,

00:30 Faisal sahib, Tariq Mushtaq sahib, the next Chief Justice, he should go home.

00:34 Is this the only reason you understand without having any information as well?

00:38 Or you think this is the only reason, is this the only reason that a person should go home?

00:42 That person who is going to be the next Chief Justice of Pakistan for 10 months.

00:47 Look, till now it can be a guesswork, neither they have written anything in the letter,

00:54 nor the Supreme Court has said anything, nor has anyone told anything solid,

01:00 or things are coming from indirect sources.

01:06 There was some pressure, some pressure, some reference was coming,

01:11 there were such circumstances in the Supreme Court, such disagreements with the Chief Justice,

01:18 or there was such a fight in the Supreme Court, something was such that it was difficult for them to stay in between.

01:23 But whatever the situation, I think, if I look at it as my own, whatever the situation,

01:30 Muzair Ali Akbar Naqvi sahib and Ijaz-ul-Ahsan sahib, both should not have been refused,

01:38 they should have stayed and faced.

01:41 If there is still something behind both of them, then they should not stop being their accused,

01:47 there should be investigations.

01:49 But both should have stayed, what do you call it,

01:54 when I used to talk to Muzair Ali Akbar Naqvi sahib through a close source,

01:59 or the judge whom we know, Justice Naqvi sahib, he had the same thing,

02:03 he says everything is revenge, everything is a lie, and they are doing revenge against me,

02:07 I will face them to the last breath.

02:09 Maybe they did not accept the objections raised against the Chief Justice, Sardar Tariq, Naeem Afghan,

02:17 maybe their proceedings did not stop,

02:21 or maybe they did not get the same route that Faiz Issa Qazi sahib had taken.

02:28 Sadr is wrong, the Prime Minister is wrong, the Supreme Court is wrong,

02:34 the Supreme Judicial Court is wrong, the judges are wrong, the FBI is wrong,

02:39 they should not have been refused,

02:41 because people got a chance to say that let's face them, why are they not facing?

02:44 Yes, yes, regarding Muzair Ali Akbar Naqvi sahib, yes.

02:50 You see, the legal happiness that Abdullah Diwana is getting on his marriage,

02:56 why is that happening?

02:58 Because they refused, if they had faced, stayed,

03:01 there would have been only one thing, if they had been guilty,

03:04 maybe they would not have got the pension, maybe they would not have got the marriage,

03:07 the rest was nothing.

03:08 Ijaz-ul-Ahsan sahib, just like there is a surprise for you, there is a surprise for me too.

03:13 Both were very strong judges, both had very intellectually,

03:18 Ijaz-ul-Ahsan sahib was louder, but Muzair Ali Akbar Naqvi sahib was very impersonal.

03:22 But Mr. Bhatti, I will ask Amir sahib too,

03:24 we are talking about probabilities, you are right, it's a guess,

03:27 which probability do you think is more, if we are saying that Dabangg judge was there,

03:31 then it is not difficult to believe that suddenly there was such a pressure that Dabangg judge said,

03:35 I am going home, because Maryam bibi took names and did what she did,

03:40 Nooli did what she did, then she did not take pressure,

03:42 she has no difference with Fahid Ishaq sahib, then she did not take pressure,

03:46 then is there any other reason to believe, which probability do you think is more?

03:51 Yes, yes, see, there is no doubt in this,

03:57 this is a low level organized campaign that has been going on for the past year,

04:03 where Chief Justice Bandeyal was there, the way the parliament was fought,

04:07 the way the Supreme Court was divided, the way the conduct, character and family was destroyed,

04:11 the way the RDO, the way everything, but he was there.

04:15 Now I think there are complaints against Muzair Ali Akbar Naqvi sahib,

04:19 there is a preference, there is a reason for that,

04:21 here too I think that there were not only differences,

04:24 the rest Allah knows better,

04:26 and Aamir Ali Azhar, what probability do you think is more,

04:29 what has happened today, that all the circumstances, events,

04:31 the circumstances are seen,

04:33 this conspiracy group,

04:37 yes, that is the champion of hypocrisy,

04:39 they were not sitting to do justice, they were planning,

04:43 there was a planner and the planner sitting above is the biggest,

04:47 he had set the Supreme Court according to his will by 2030,

04:52 in which Qazi Faiz Ali sahib was a misfit,

04:54 in which three former Chief Justices, Imran Khan, General Bajwa, General Faiz,

05:00 Sadr Alvi, were all involved,

05:02 that remove him so that there is no obstacle,

05:05 but look at it from the side of nature,

05:07 that on whom there was such a big pressure,

05:09 he went everywhere with his wife,

05:11 he used to come to the Supreme Court on foot,

05:13 he did not get scared,

05:15 he was a great wrestler, a great wrestler,

05:17 why did he run away, he should have faced it,

05:20 he used to sit and screw the people, the officers,

05:24 and he used to make the Supreme Court run like a stick,

05:28 he took Saqib Nisar,

05:30 and Asif Khosa, Gulzar sahib, Umar Atta Bandyal,

05:34 he used to run the Supreme Court,

05:36 the heart that has been hit,

05:38 that Qazi Faiz Ali sahib is sitting with Sardar Tariq,

05:41 my number is also third, I am also in the committee,

05:44 your plan to run the country was a joke,

05:46 it was a joke,

05:48 now when you had to face that conspiracy,

05:50 you were made to confess,

05:52 that this conversation is yours,

05:54 you keep in mind that the story of CCP and Lahore,

05:56 that too was known with great clarity,

05:58 that how the planning was going on,

06:00 in that Saqib Nisar sahib's name was also mentioned,

06:02 that he was messaging,

06:04 he is still messaging,

06:06 all of them were trapped, they did not understand,

06:08 they thought that the day after tomorrow it will be done,

06:10 and all the work will be done,

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