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00:00 He is the man with a thousand talents.
00:02 - What do you think of us? - We are not in agreement, Mr. Rikakis.
00:05 - You? - Yes.
00:06 - You are so bad-tempered, you are not in agreement?
00:09 The actor with a thousand faces.
00:12 - What did you fall in love with, my child? - The band, the band, the band, the band.
00:16 I choose one of the three, or all three are right.
00:19 The writer with a thousand ideas.
00:22 - Hey, you! - What? - You are dead!
00:26 - When I died?
00:27 He is the one that when he speaks, everyone gets involved with him.
00:31 And when he doesn't speak, they get even more involved.
00:34 It is important that whether he says it on TV, or theatrically, or online,
00:41 whatever comes out of his mouth, goes viral immediately.
00:46 It is like having the Mona Lisa, and you have half of the Mona Lisa in Louvre,
00:53 and the other half in Greece. You have the Mona there, and the Lisa here.
00:56 Let's welcome, Laki Lazopoulos!
01:00 Take a step, I will take the next one
01:06 My blood and my shape, my mind and my soul, I am the one that is in agreement
01:13 When I have you, I feel like a child, like a human being
01:19 Don't be afraid of anyone, you and me, the world, I can be a human being
01:26 You and me
01:29 When I have you
01:33 - Bravo! - Thank you very much.
01:35 - Hello, hello. Laki, my sweet, welcome.
01:38 I was waiting for him to say "Laki, my sweet", but I like it.
01:41 - Are you? - Yes, I am.
01:42 - How are the years going? - Are you?
01:44 - The years are going by, and not something, you know, because I say this,
01:47 do you believe that as the years go by, the souls calm down, the hearts calm down?
01:50 - The souls calm down, and they understand everything.
01:52 - And they understand everything, I agree.
01:53 - They understand from the later. - Yes.
01:55 - Because there are many times when accidents happen, but you need time to find out what exactly happened.
02:01 - I say this so you don't think we are saying something secret, maybe for those of you who don't understand,
02:05 Laki and I were always a small target of the...
02:08 - Of course. - Of course, for many reasons.
02:10 I, ok, I was affected by many things, time passed, we got closer,
02:14 and I want to say that time heals the wound a little, but people must be kind, too.
02:19 - Of course. - To start, right? Do you agree?
02:22 - Of course. Without a good mood, and from both people, nothing can happen.
02:26 - That's the big truth. Welcome. - Welcome.
02:29 - You're strong, but I want you to be honest, you're tired.
02:32 Your eyes are tired.
02:34 - Of course, I've been in the theater for 10, 11, 12 years.
02:38 - You didn't tell him you were going to do theater again.
02:40 - I did.
02:42 - You did. - I don't remember.
02:45 - You said you were tired.
02:47 - The word "tired" I didn't use much.
02:49 - You didn't use much. My co-workers told me, from the first things you told me,
02:53 that you said you didn't know if you were going to do it again.
02:55 - If I was going to do it again, I really wanted to.
02:57 - Ok, ok. - I really wanted to, I didn't want to do it again.
03:00 - In general, whatever I did, I really didn't want to do it again,
03:03 but from the moment I start a show, it doesn't happen.
03:06 - How long have you been doing shows?
03:08 - It's since the "Peter" show we did in Britain,
03:13 I think, after the... it's since the first year of the pandemic.
03:17 - I see, so it's been three years, something like that. - Yes.
03:20 - Do you miss it? - I miss the contact with the people.
03:25 - Do you mean that I would like to see them again, to have a good time?
03:28 - Yes. - That's what I thought.
03:30 - That's what? - You're fed up with the applause, isn't that it?
03:32 - No, not the applause. - What?
03:34 - I like to see them having a good time.
03:36 I don't care, I mean, I'm not...
03:38 I can tell you that I'm one of the actors who, even less,
03:42 always, from the beginning, the applause, that's not my issue.
03:45 My issue is that I want them to have a good time.
03:47 - I see. - That's what it is for me.
03:49 - Do Greeks have a good time?
03:51 - Lately, it's assumed, based on TV, that we should be very happy.
03:56 - Why? - But...
03:58 - Why based on TV? - Because TV, the internet,
04:00 is very nice, all that, we get academic grades,
04:03 we are... we are...
04:05 we are all good, in our finances,
04:08 but the nerves outside don't show the same.
04:11 - That's true.
04:13 - You always comment on a whole society,
04:16 to change, to be replaced, and I tell you,
04:19 in 2023, what are the facts?
04:21 Nerves, a lot of them, you said. - A lot of nerves.
04:23 - A lot of nerves. The young people are very aggressive,
04:26 not that they weren't in the past, right?
04:28 - The young people are aggressive, who are being taught.
04:31 - They are being taught. - I mean, when the father enters the house,
04:34 he enters with more nerves than he was,
04:37 - There you go. - Because we believe that these won't come out.
04:41 Let's say.
04:43 They are more aggressive, and the couples,
04:46 more aggressively.
04:48 The murders that happen,
04:50 are an aggressiveness.
04:52 Suddenly, hatred comes out, or something was hidden.
04:55 All that is pushed to the children.
04:58 They see something.
05:00 And they don't just suddenly say something,
05:02 the children are born with violence,
05:04 and they say, suddenly, we'll start a generation,
05:06 they kill us, let's say, or...
05:08 - I hear again about the so-called "collections" of the children.
05:11 - The collections are, they see that everyone is organized,
05:14 and they see that this person is with this person,
05:17 that is, if you have this friend and that friend,
05:19 you will escape the prison, but you will have to be with them.
05:22 If I'm with the others, that is,
05:24 the political system forces you to belong,
05:29 here in the self-image, to a collection.
05:33 You have to be in a collection that helps you.
05:38 - It sounds tough. - Really.
05:40 - You have to fit in somewhere to be safe.
05:43 - You have to be safe, to have a collection,
05:46 so selfishly, I say again,
05:48 so that you can be covered.
05:50 - And if I ask you, there is a solution.
05:53 History can change.
05:54 It is a river now that has taken things,
05:57 but they get into the rain, cars, everything.
06:00 - We are in this phase.
06:02 At this point, the time is such
06:05 that you will take everything seriously,
06:08 and at some point we will calm down again.
06:10 There are periods, and historical periods,
06:15 that can calm down a little.
06:19 At this point, it is not such a period.
06:22 While it looks like a quiet period,
06:24 that everything is standardized,
06:26 there are no enemies at this point.
06:28 That is, and politically, there is no left,
06:31 there is only the right. It's over.
06:33 So there is a horizon in front,
06:36 only a right-wing horizon.
06:38 We have the soul, we look there. OK.
06:40 - That's worrying.
06:42 - You know why? Because our neck will be caught.
06:45 - That's what worries me.
06:47 - The idea of the horizon is to move
06:50 wherever it wants.
06:52 - You know how we say, sometimes,
06:54 something like a calculation, right?
06:56 And you turn around. You are right.
06:58 - Let's talk to a person who speaks normally.
07:01 I would like to ask one of them,
07:03 with 650 euros, why doesn't he give me
07:06 the 7,000 euros he gets, secretly,
07:09 to give me this salary,
07:11 and take my salary, which is 620 euros?
07:14 I would tell you, in this crisis,
07:16 I wouldn't be a member of parliament.
07:19 Anything else, except being a member of parliament.
07:29 - They have MPs behind the umbrellas,
07:31 and they push them?
07:33 Calm down, madam, calm down, please.
07:35 - Let me tell you, and this is worrying,
07:54 but I can't help but ask you,
07:56 I think that, as things go,
07:59 it will take a long time to start looking
08:02 at the center or the left.
08:05 - Certainly.
08:07 - And that's very worrying.
08:09 - It's not very worrying.
08:11 It's a running season,
08:13 and it wants a free season.
08:15 It's not worrying.
08:17 - You have said that Kasselakis,
08:19 the president of SYRIZA,
08:21 has no ideology.
08:23 - He doesn't.
08:25 - I see him looking for it.
08:27 - Yes.
08:29 And if I were to ask you why he was voted out
08:31 of 150,000 people?
08:33 - Because it's very normal.
08:35 He was a dead party.
08:37 Everyone had died in there.
08:39 And he came in, he said, "Who's alive?"
08:41 And he said, "Alive."
08:43 I said, "He came with a foreign flag.
08:45 He's a bit of an atheist from Chicago.
08:47 He has Stasiks, I don't know,
08:49 and he's bringing something new."
08:51 And basically, what he had been doing
08:53 was something better.
08:55 And it is something better
08:57 on a living level.
08:59 That's all.
09:01 From there, ideologically,
09:03 I see it slowly, but also,
09:05 you don't know, as the season changes,
09:07 where it will be ideologically.
09:09 Because this
09:11 de-ideologization
09:13 that's happening,
09:15 don't think that it will be too late
09:17 to reach a point
09:19 where everyone
09:21 who appears
09:23 like Kasselakis
09:25 seems to be fine.
09:27 Okay.
09:29 Because someone has to govern
09:31 who knows, for example,
09:33 that he's a "state-owner"
09:35 of Cyprus,
09:37 and to say it like that,
09:39 and to say it now,
09:41 those who for so many years
09:43 are responsible for the division of Cyprus,
09:45 they know how to say it.
09:47 And he doesn't know.
09:49 What is the truth?
09:51 Those who know,
09:53 haven't done anything,
09:55 and not only haven't done anything,
09:57 they will be ignored.
09:59 Do you believe that?
10:01 Absolutely.
10:03 I'm afraid of what you're saying.
10:05 Don't be afraid.
10:07 Who would have expected
10:09 that Cyprus would leave,
10:11 that Kasselakis would leave,
10:13 and that Brilatis would leave?
10:15 They are there all day,
10:17 talking about what to do,
10:19 what not to do,
10:21 discussing the new formations,
10:23 and what articles are being written about them.
10:25 They can't imagine
10:27 the day when no article will be written.
10:29 Because when you leave,
10:31 you need the article.
10:33 Then the un-article will come.
10:35 Now they're looking for new ideologies.
10:37 But tell me, please,
10:39 can you find in the winter
10:41 what hasn't come yet,
10:43 what we're looking for,
10:45 an ideology that is opposite to Kasselakis,
10:47 which has none?
10:49 Tell me, please,
10:51 what is the logic in looking for an ideology
10:53 opposite to Kasselakis,
10:55 which Kasselakis has no ideology?
10:57 Tell me, is this the anomaly?
10:59 I think you're one of the best,
11:01 maybe the best satirist,
11:03 no, I'm serious.
11:05 I've always liked satirists.
11:07 I didn't like your obsession.
11:09 You can't do without obsession.
11:11 I agree.
11:13 I'm not saying you're an obsession.
11:15 I'm saying you're an obsession.
11:17 I agree.
11:19 I'm just saying,
11:21 I'm not saying you're an obsession.
11:23 I'm just saying,
11:25 I'm not saying you're an obsession.
11:27 I'm just saying,
11:29 I'm not saying you're an obsession.
11:31 I'm just saying,
11:33 I'm not saying you're an obsession.
11:35 I'm just saying,
11:37 I'm not saying you're an obsession.
11:39 I'm just saying,
11:41 I'm not saying you're an obsession.
11:43 When he was reading his works,
11:45 he was laughing.
11:47 You can't make me laugh
11:49 if you hear a dramatic...
11:51 In general, you say that the nose
11:53 is a dramatic person.
11:55 You see the nose as a good-natured person,
11:57 her face is like that,
11:59 and it's to make you laugh.
12:01 If you see the nose,
12:03 with a little bit of stabilization,
12:05 the hair has fallen a little bit,
12:07 and it's to make you laugh,
12:09 and sometimes,
12:11 the dramatic nature
12:13 doesn't match with our voice.
12:15 You can start dramatically,
12:17 and hear a voice that makes you laugh.
12:19 But it has nothing to do
12:21 with the essence of the person,
12:23 with who is inside him.
12:25 No, but you say that
12:27 because you've been doing it for so many years,
12:29 I'm very old to answer that.
12:31 But you also go through it,
12:33 and you hear something,
12:35 it's very natural.
12:37 Stamina has to do
12:39 with the creation of the joke.
12:41 I see.
12:43 So, let's say,
12:45 I'm monic with Adonis,
12:47 or Adonis is monic with Adonis,
12:49 he's on TV all the time,
12:51 from morning to noon, from evening to night.
12:53 Is Adonis monic, or is it the monic
12:55 that they ask him to be on TV every day?
12:57 You don't ask him to be on TV, he goes on his own.
12:59 What's the matter?
13:01 He's sitting outside the channels,
13:03 waiting for him to come in.
13:05 He's waiting for him to come in.
13:07 He's on the phone himself.
13:09 He's like, "Good morning, how are you?"
13:11 I've heard that Adonis
13:13 is one of the very good ministers
13:15 when it comes to doing the job.
13:17 Are you a journalist?
13:19 No.
13:21 I'll tell you, you can't find anything good.
13:23 I don't care what he does.
13:25 I'm not discussing at this point
13:27 if he does any work.
13:29 I'm a PASOK, not a Democrat.
13:31 What PASOK?
13:33 I'm an old man.
13:35 We're talking about old people.
13:37 You don't have anything.
13:39 You don't believe in PASOK anymore?
13:41 Nothing?
13:43 PASOK is over.
13:45 No, I don't believe in it.
13:47 From the beginning to the end,
13:49 PASOK is over.
13:51 It's the second PASOK.
13:53 PASOK ended with Andreas Papandreou.
13:55 It was together.
13:57 It's over.
13:59 From the beginning to the end,
14:01 it's true.
14:03 The point is that PASOK is right-wing.
14:05 That's why we all got together.
14:07 I like that I've changed.
14:09 I've voted for PASOK,
14:11 I've voted for KKK,
14:13 I've voted for a democracy.
14:15 Now you'll tell me I'm not talking to a normal person.
14:17 No one is normal.
14:19 If you don't have the means
14:21 to see at some point
14:23 why your country benefits from this,
14:25 that's why you always go to Adonis,
14:27 to the center, because the center
14:29 is the center.
14:31 So an average person
14:33 can see at some point
14:35 that this system is better.
14:37 I really like it.
14:39 But I'm always in the progressive direction.
14:41 If I have to choose
14:43 between a conservative
14:45 and a conservative party,
14:47 I won't go to the conservative
14:49 in any case.
14:51 I'll go
14:53 more progressive.
14:55 The thing is that Lakis
14:57 has essentially supported
14:59 a party
15:01 and allowed people
15:03 to vote for a particular party.
15:05 Now you don't need to. People don't understand.
15:07 Did you accept it?
15:09 If I tell you that this is
15:11 a plan of the right
15:13 which was lost then
15:15 and wanted to make it so
15:17 that I, as a pullman,
15:19 when a new democracy has reached 18%
15:21 and a golden dawn
15:23 in the god,
15:25 we were going in a far-right direction,
15:27 to suggest to a person
15:29 that we should
15:31 go more progressive,
15:33 is the one at fault.
15:35 Yes.
15:37 Is the one at fault?
15:39 It's not the one at fault, but the point is...
15:41 Is the one at fault the one who put the country in a time-out?
15:43 Me? No.
15:45 But my question is, what?
15:47 From a satirical writer...
15:49 In a crisis, a satirical writer
15:51 has to do stupid things
15:53 and say stupid things
15:55 and make people laugh.
15:57 Is this my job?
15:59 No.
16:01 So you suggested it?
16:03 You thought it was your proposal?
16:05 It's not my proposal.
16:07 I see that the road is from here.
16:09 And in the end, the road was from there.
16:11 Because the right would not have come back
16:13 if it had fallen then.
16:15 If 18% had become 8%,
16:17 the PASOK
16:19 which fell to 4%,
16:21 never came back.
16:23 It came back.
16:25 The 44% that fell to 4%.
16:27 This doesn't say anything.
16:29 The role of an artist makes me stupid.
16:31 Only politicians make stupid people.
16:33 You never thought you were stupid?
16:35 No.
16:37 I never made anyone stupid.
16:39 And I will never make anyone stupid.
16:41 And I can't...
16:43 I respect people.
16:45 I respect them so much
16:47 that I will not change my opinion
16:49 to please them.
16:51 I will say what I have to say.
16:53 They can condemn me,
16:55 judge me,
16:57 say whatever they want,
16:59 but I think that along the way,
17:01 as well as with the world,
17:03 a point will be reached
17:05 to see the truth of the other.
17:07 So if I asked you,
17:09 I would turn back time.
17:11 Would you do exactly the same?
17:13 Exactly the same.
17:15 Because no one put me in the position
17:17 to make decisions on their own.
17:19 It means that you have thought.
17:21 If I hadn't thought,
17:23 I would have to admit that I was stupid.
17:25 If I was stupid,
17:27 then why did people
17:29 believe in what I said?
17:31 It doesn't matter.
17:35 The system has a way
17:37 to punish you.
17:39 It has a way to take 10 phones
17:41 to 10 TV channels,
17:43 to say "this is a journalist".
17:45 All these things that they said,
17:47 there is a point.
17:49 No one was talking to me.
17:51 No one came from those who
17:55 were talking and were insulting me
17:57 to tell me to talk to both of us.
17:59 Never.
18:01 They took all the journalists,
18:03 the weapons and they were shooting.
18:05 So you say,
18:07 your question is,
18:09 if a thousand journalists
18:11 can achieve a "bekaatsa"?
18:13 Yes, "bekaatsa".
18:15 Can they achieve a "aeto"?
18:17 I don't know.
18:19 Some of them can.
18:21 Do you think they succeeded?
18:23 Yes. They shot a few bullets.
18:25 Nothing happened.
18:27 The job of an "aeto" is to shoot.
18:29 The job of a "kinigo" is to hunt.
18:31 I see.
18:33 But sometimes,
18:35 the ideal of an animal to escape from
18:37 stupid hunters,
18:39 we have to consider it.
18:41 I don't have this vice.
18:43 It's a permanent thing.
18:45 Syriza has become a "bakaliko".
18:47 A "bakaliko" with this "archigomani"
18:49 where 100 chiefs have appeared.
18:51 Nine from here, two from there, three from there.
18:53 One who left, one who came.
18:55 One who will come back. What's going on?
18:57 They have taken out the wings now
18:59 and they are making three in oil, three in vinegar.
19:01 It's not about "diaspasi".
19:03 This is about "apospasis".
19:05 "Apospasis".
19:07 That is, a part of Syriza is being cut off,
19:09 a third of Syriza.
19:11 And it goes to the specific prison,
19:13 let's say,
19:15 to go and guard
19:17 the left of the left.
19:19 That is, it goes to guard specifically the narrow one
19:21 which is behind the "koukoue"
19:23 and it sees the face of the "kinal"
19:25 where the "kinal" sees the face of the "pasok"
19:27 where the "pasok" has a
19:29 more "rizospastik"
19:31 corner where it sees
19:33 and it is the "rizospastismos"
19:35 of the "rizospastismos",
19:37 the "rizospastismes",
19:39 the "rizospastismenes",
19:41 the "rizospastas",
19:43 our "rizospastismenes".
19:45 I want to ask, because we talked a lot about Kasselakis,
19:47 but one last question.
19:49 Do you believe that
19:51 the story of Syriza
19:53 with the president Stefanos Kasselakis is this one?
19:55 Do you feel that this story can go further?
19:57 Do you believe that Syriza can go better?
19:59 Because I think it has gone
20:01 the last poll, 9-10%.
20:03 I don't care. The polls don't tell me anything.
20:05 I think that what happened
20:07 in the left is
20:09 a lie.
20:11 I know that this dissolution was planned
20:13 a long time ago.
20:15 I don't like those who left at all
20:17 because they are leftists.
20:19 Absolutely.
20:21 They are not worthy people,
20:23 but I don't like their movement
20:25 and I don't like that they are planned and have an enemy.
20:27 That is, they are "we didn't come out,
20:29 you'll see, we'll do it too".
20:31 But I don't like Kasselakis
20:33 who has nothing to suggest.
20:35 He says, he says, he says,
20:37 but it's ok.
20:39 It's not something
20:41 that can politically
20:43 support people
20:45 in a vision.
20:47 This vision that he has
20:49 is from a specific point of view.
20:51 I told him to play for the Kurabiedes,
20:53 to play for the "they will play for a while"
20:55 that is, he doesn't have
20:57 a specific, concentrated thing.
20:59 So,
21:01 slowly or quickly
21:03 a new place
21:05 will have to be found.
21:07 With your calculations,
21:09 how long will it take?
21:11 Very soon.
21:13 Really, very soon?
21:15 Yes.
21:17 Will someone like Kasselakis appear again?
21:19 The rage of the world is organized
21:21 when there is rage,
21:23 there is a lot of organization.
21:25 For example,
21:27 Bakoyannis lost, didn't he?
21:29 He lost 14-54,
21:31 where did he find the 40 units?
21:33 Where do you think, my friend?
21:35 In the rage.
21:37 Do you want to sit
21:39 for 3 years,
21:41 to make me in the university,
21:43 to give me a certificate,
21:45 just monkeys to bring us,
21:47 paid, and we don't have to do anything?
21:49 So, you want to...
21:51 And from the moment they saw him,
21:53 and they heard him,
21:55 they voted.
21:57 No.
21:59 What did Bakoyannis do for us?
22:01 The debate.
22:03 He told us that
22:05 you can't vote
22:07 and you can't choose.
22:09 Do you feel that
22:11 we should hear all the voices today?
22:13 Of course, you should hear.
22:15 You only hear the voice of Moussotakis.
22:17 Because Kasselakis can't speak
22:19 for so long.
22:21 Kasselakis has the journalists
22:23 who are in the media all day
22:25 and they sit all day and listen.
22:27 I'm not saying that Kasselakis
22:29 would have been better off if he hadn't been there.
22:31 But he never had a camera
22:33 outside to watch what he was doing.
22:35 When did he have it?
22:37 Never.
22:39 When did he have it?
22:41 He never had it, but there is a rage.
22:43 Some politician today wants to speak and can't.
22:45 It's the opposite of what I'm saying.
22:47 There is no rage.
22:49 There is...
22:51 how do you say it? A "challenge".
22:53 We show him that we don't respect him
22:55 as a leader
22:57 and that we shouldn't go all the way to his house.
22:59 But we make fun of him.
23:01 He goes out and you see him
23:03 on Instagram and he goes from here to there.
23:05 This is a challenge.
23:07 Do you think Moussotakis is doing well?
23:09 Of course.
23:11 What do you think?
23:13 That he is alone and he is in power.
23:15 If you had ever met him,
23:17 would you have met him?
23:19 We have met, but we were separated.
23:21 I have never met him.
23:23 I have never met him.
23:25 He never says anything.
23:27 You don't think he is doing well?
23:29 Of course I think he is doing well.
23:31 How can I not think he is doing well?
23:33 But he couldn't have succeeded
23:35 if he hadn't done something good.
23:37 It's not possible.
23:39 I will get married next month.
23:41 I officially marry Nioulios
23:43 and I am very happy.
23:45 And if I break up with this man,
23:47 my next wife can be a woman.
23:49 You marry a man.
23:51 Yes.
23:53 The first time, yes.
23:55 The second time, we'll see.
23:57 That's it.
24:03 I broke up with him first.
24:05 Then I will make a woman.
24:07 One by one.
24:09 What are you doing at home?
24:11 What are you shouting?
24:13 I will shout at them.
24:15 "Here they are alone and they are in power."
24:17 "They lost all their traditions."
24:19 "And in any case, my lady,
24:21 because you have a house in which
24:23 a national star will take his good side,
24:25 I will ask you a question.
24:27 I will see how you will change your mind."
24:29 "Question."
24:31 "If you had a daughter,
24:33 would you give her to him to marry?"
24:35 "That is the question."
24:39 "Therefore,
24:45 I will not give my daughter to him."
24:47 "Do you believe in Altsanderi?"
24:49 "I don't know."
24:51 "What do you think?"
24:53 "I believe that
24:55 the essential, dynamic,
24:57 strong satire is missing.
24:59 That's what is missing.
25:01 It is not necessary that I do it.
25:03 Anyone else does it."
25:05 "Then I will ask you the question differently."
25:07 "You always do it differently."
25:09 "I will ask you the question differently.
25:11 Do we have Greek humor?"
25:13 "We have a lot of it."
25:15 "Very much."
25:17 "Lately, I think we laugh more
25:19 when we see someone fall down the street."
25:21 "That's because it's from..."
25:23 "First of all, there are no more jokes.
25:25 We want to start from the beginning.
25:27 The history of jokes, for example,
25:29 will be a social phenomenon.
25:31 Once there were jokes about the Pontians.
25:33 They stopped.
25:35 I don't know if it's because of the situation
25:37 with the political correct.
25:39 I had the Xanthias.
25:41 And there is no more.
25:43 I remember that movie with the
25:45 Skorimeros, the Pontians,
25:47 who were looking for a source
25:49 and stopped the jokes about the Pontians
25:51 that were destroyed.
25:53 I want to say that there is no more.
25:55 There is no humor.
25:57 "There may be humor,
25:59 but there is no one
26:01 to approach the source of humor
26:03 because essentially
26:05 there is an unfair ban."
26:07 "You tell me all this
26:09 and I don't understand."
26:11 "I can't say anything else
26:13 than what I feel."
26:15 "You look like Patrick."
26:17 "You look like we are in a parallel universe."
26:19 "No, because I am not in a parallel universe
26:21 or in a conspiracy.
26:23 I know very well.
26:25 I speak specifically.
26:27 It's just that it's not the time
26:29 to say it."
26:31 "I understand what you mean.
26:33 You know why I say it?
26:35 Because there is this freedom
26:37 of the internet.
26:39 Don't confuse it with the internet.
26:41 Because right now we live in the age
26:43 of the smaller screen.
26:45 Soon the smaller screen will win over the small one.
26:47 Because the smaller screen
26:49 still tells the truth.
26:51 So it will win over the small one.
26:53 We live in the small one.
26:55 Because if you don't become
26:57 the protagonist of the smaller screen,
26:59 you won't exist.
27:01 "Do you believe that?"
27:03 "Of course. That's the future."
27:05 "So you don't watch TV?"
27:07 "No. Only when you are alone
27:09 can someone tell you the truth.
27:11 But as a whole,
27:13 society cannot be informed
27:15 about something as a whole.
27:17 You can learn something from someone."
27:19 "And who do you protect
27:21 from the fake news of the small screen
27:23 which are hundreds and also..."
27:25 "Who protects you from the fake news
27:27 of the TV?"
27:29 "The big ones?"
27:31 "Yes, who?
27:33 The big ones.
27:35 They write to me every day
27:37 that I play Bitcoin.
27:39 And you too.
27:41 500 times a day.
27:43 And the prosecution does absolutely nothing.
27:45 Why don't you find a journalist
27:47 and a politician
27:49 to play Bitcoin and we two are there?"
27:51 "I know."
27:53 "Which one do you play?"
27:55 "I don't know. Should I put my mind
27:57 in the cunning one?"
27:59 "No, don't put it in the cunning one.
28:01 I will keep it."
28:03 "I will do it differently."
28:05 "Why? What do you say?"
28:07 "I don't know.
28:09 I will say this because I will take the opportunity.
28:11 I don't play Bitcoin, guys.
28:13 I haven't won a single euro.
28:15 The situation is tragic.
28:17 Don't believe anything these ministers say.
28:19 I went to the Sfakianakis,
28:21 to the electronic crime.
28:23 I told them to look for it.
28:25 I went to the police station
28:27 and they told me that they can't do anything
28:29 because they have to go out again.
28:31 Of course, I went to others and they told me
28:33 that they are also in trouble.
28:35 That some people take some money
28:37 to be able to do it.
28:39 That's why I say
28:41 that there is no politician
28:43 or journalist
28:45 to play Bitcoin."
28:47 "I haven't seen it in this perspective."
28:49 "I always see it in this perspective.
28:51 I mean, not to see it."
28:53 "No, to see it differently.
28:55 How do we do it?"
28:57 "To see it differently."
28:59 "To see it differently."
29:01 "To see it differently."
29:03 "Do you know how much I lost
29:05 in the lottery with the ***?"
29:07 "Why did you lose?"
29:09 "I lost a lot."
29:11 "Why did you lose?"
29:13 "I lost."
29:15 "You will lose later, it doesn't matter."
29:17 "12 euros."
29:19 "12 euros."
29:21 "One point. Here, I will get married to her.
29:23 Do you have any money?"
29:25 "I don't have any money."
29:27 "I have a golden family."
29:29 "In 2023, before we start with the theatre,
29:31 because I feel that
29:33 what you are doing, I saw it in the trailer
29:35 with Elisabeth, and I think it will be something very nice."
29:37 "I love her very much, Elisabeth."
29:39 "Yes."
29:41 "And we are such a nice couple,
29:43 we are happy to play the role,
29:45 because
29:47 one is catching
29:49 things from the other."
29:51 "The title is 'When I died'."
29:53 "It's not yours."
29:55 "It's mine."
29:57 "When did you write it?"
29:59 "I wrote it in 15 days."
30:01 "How do you do that?"
30:03 "I always think about it,
30:05 I think about the roles,
30:07 and then it's like the roles are next to me,
30:09 and I sit and listen and write the dialogues."
30:11 "I see."
30:13 "So I have almost
30:15 never in any play,
30:17 not even in the podcast,
30:19 you will not see 'Moujoura'
30:21 in my writing, because I still write with my hand,
30:23 I can't write with a pen,
30:25 because
30:27 I essentially copy
30:29 what I hear,
30:31 but first I have to give them a draft,
30:33 and then I leave them in a place
30:35 to listen to them."
30:37 "Can you tell me what this past is about?"
30:39 "There is one, yes, I can tell you.
30:41 So it's one that has died,
30:43 because they will discover at the end,
30:45 because he jumped out of the window,
30:47 they drove him, he went for fun,
30:49 they drove a car to the hospital
30:51 and we jumped him.
30:53 And while he was jumping, he heard something.
30:55 He heard something, I don't know what he heard,
30:57 and his auditory nerve
30:59 doesn't die.
31:01 And this auditory nerve
31:03 that produces 38 nerves,
31:05 and one of the 38 nerves is in his right hand
31:07 that throws gas,
31:09 some other nerves are also scared,
31:11 and a 300-degree nerve comes out and he doesn't know.
31:13 He doesn't have all the nerves,
31:15 but if he will live from complete or half,
31:17 or he doesn't know what will happen,
31:19 it's the three days
31:21 when all these relatives come
31:23 and these people who have played a role,
31:25 and with dialogues that move between
31:27 real and surreal,
31:29 he understands everything
31:31 and slowly, slowly, slowly,
31:33 it's like God gave you,
31:35 my dear child, a gift,
31:37 you die and he gives you half of it.
31:39 Take ten days to live
31:41 to understand with whom you have to deal.
31:43 That's it.
31:45 Tell me, your right,
31:47 the logic, the philosophy of death.
31:49 How do you have it?
31:51 How do you imagine it?
31:53 Would you like to see
31:55 who will come to your funeral?
31:57 Would you like to see who will come on the ninth day?
31:59 On the fortieth day, would you like to see who will come?
32:01 No.
32:03 But since I was a child, I had the same dream.
32:05 I'm going, I'm dead,
32:07 I'm going to church,
32:09 and in church,
32:11 I get out of the coffin
32:13 and I grab a microphone
32:15 and I make them laugh.
32:17 That was my childhood dream.
32:19 And somehow, this childhood dream
32:21 was decided by some
32:23 comparisons,
32:25 at school, at the theater where I was,
32:27 some were convicted,
32:29 and some teachers
32:31 were found to be involved
32:33 with immorality, as I say,
32:35 and I saw clearly the faces,
32:37 and all of these started to tie
32:39 to my head, and I said, let's say
32:41 that I die, when I die,
32:43 what would I like to see?
32:47 And another reason is
32:51 because I was going through
32:53 a very difficult psychological
32:55 phase, from what was
32:57 from the death of my wife,
32:59 I was preparing to live in a play
33:01 where other things were happening
33:03 completely from my life,
33:05 because many times,
33:07 when life was pressing for me,
33:09 the theater and the role
33:11 were a spiritual construction
33:15 that was basically
33:17 a load for me and I was going for a walk.
33:19 I wanted a walk
33:21 that I could do
33:23 on my own terms.
33:25 Now, I don't know how long
33:27 it's been since you left.
33:29 It's been three years.
33:31 Three years, I think.
33:33 It's in the box.
33:37 Yes, jukebox.
33:39 I think you've done it.
33:41 Here, I've done it,
33:43 and it's going so well,
33:45 and I'm really glad
33:47 that I did it.
33:49 I'm sorry, I forgot the title.
33:51 Other Women Wear Your Vest.
33:53 Very good. So, we can find it.
33:55 The comments are very nice,
33:57 and I like that we did it,
33:59 and Maria Kavogianni helped,
34:01 she read the letters.
34:03 My co-workers tell me
34:05 that it's 4.8 out of 5.
34:07 Yes.
34:09 I'm very happy.
34:11 I'm very happy that I did it
34:13 so that it stays
34:15 with my voice.
34:17 You're right, because
34:19 the thing that's out of the box
34:21 is the podcast you do.
34:23 It's not something.
34:25 I just see that you do it
34:27 once a week.
34:29 Once a week, yes.
34:31 I do it every Thursday and Friday.
34:33 And you have Dionysios Tzarakis,
34:35 who does it for the first time.
34:37 I think you must have liked
34:39 the videos he makes.
34:41 I liked it a lot, because we did
34:43 the stand-up comedy together,
34:45 and we'll do it on a tour abroad.
34:47 With Dimitris Christoforidis,
34:49 who was perfect.
34:51 And suddenly,
34:53 because there was a role
34:55 of a psychiatrist in it,
34:57 who takes him out of the grave,
34:59 and he's not exactly
35:01 in tune with the rest,
35:03 I thought that
35:05 it's not nice to be a psychiatrist,
35:07 but to be Dionysios,
35:09 to give him
35:11 the space
35:13 where I'd like to move,
35:15 to write it alone,
35:17 with the people
35:19 who work with him,
35:21 and to give him the space
35:23 to let this note
35:25 and voice enter.
35:27 And I'm very happy.
35:29 - You're thrilled?
35:31 - Yes.
35:33 - To conclude,
35:35 the 22nd of the month,
35:37 today is the 3rd...
35:39 - But it's Elisavet.
35:41 - Why do you say that?
35:43 - Because I'm going through Elisavet.
35:45 - What a beautiful girl she is.
35:47 Magical.
35:49 You're right.
35:51 22nd of December,
35:53 Vembo Theatre.
35:55 You'll go on Thursday to Sunday?
35:57 - Yes, Sunday.
35:59 - We need a few shows.
36:01 - One show a day?
36:03 - One show, we'll have more.
36:05 - We'll do it the next day.
36:07 - It's not possible.
36:09 But I think it'll be possible on Saturday.
36:11 - Did you go to Larissa?
36:13 - I'll go on Thursday.
36:15 I'll go on Sunday,
36:17 because I have an event there
36:19 for the 101 years of the
36:21 local Federation of the Freedoms,
36:23 and I promised to do a self-designed show,
36:25 to say a line,
36:27 like a spinach pie
36:29 that I get from my village,
36:31 to say a line,
36:33 a literal one.
36:35 - I see.
36:37 - I'll do it only for the people of Larissa,
36:39 because I feel very at home there.
36:41 I don't mind to present myself,
36:43 to be in the spotlight,
36:45 I don't want that.
36:47 I feel like I'm my own person.
36:49 - Now, after the departure
36:51 of your mother,
36:53 who was a wonderful woman,
36:55 I...
36:57 I'm sorry to say that she loved me very much.
36:59 - I know that.
37:01 - Every time she was in a bad mood,
37:03 whenever I was in the bedroom,
37:05 I called her "Grigori, I love you so much!"
37:07 - It's true.
37:09 - She told me that.
37:11 - This kid, now, there's no reason,
37:13 he can catch someone else.
37:15 What does Grigori do to you?
37:17 - I don't know.
37:19 - He's a joker.
37:21 - I see.
37:23 - Is there anyone from Larissa
37:25 who can send you a gift?
37:27 - Of course, there are.
37:29 - I mean, if there's someone left behind,
37:31 who can send you a gift.
37:33 - I have.
37:35 - Do you go to the bar at all?
37:37 - I go to the bar regularly.
37:39 - The presence has gone crazy, right?
37:41 - No, if you're at home, I go.
37:43 - But, after Nikos, I say...
37:45 - Yes, but with the toilet,
37:47 we managed to...
37:49 - I mean, Grigori had a quick understanding of the situation.
37:51 - It was a classic agreement.
37:53 - Yes, because you said what he did.
37:55 - Yes, right.
37:57 - So, it immediately worked
37:59 that this is not
38:01 to get the extension,
38:03 we have to solve it.
38:05 - Right, you're right. I understand you.
38:07 So, in conclusion...
38:09 - As far as I understand, you don't do these questions.
38:11 I'm watching you, Kostas.
38:13 - Okay, I'm passing the test
38:15 by the way, but honestly,
38:17 I don't understand you.
38:19 - I mean, do you want to be called
38:21 a poor Greek?
38:23 We should have something to say to the Europeans.
38:25 I mean, come on, we're good.
38:27 Let's make some noise.
38:29 It's a different thing to say
38:31 I produce oil,
38:33 and it's a different thing to say
38:35 I pay for the oil I produce
38:37 more expensively than the others.
38:39 Because I like it that way.
38:41 Because we sell it cheaper,
38:43 and we pay for it more expensively.
38:45 We're making the French feel bad.
38:47 We don't want the French to get
38:49 the oil more expensively than we do.
38:51 Wait a minute, guys.
38:53 What did we do to her?
38:55 We're against the Europeans.
38:57 - I never asked you...
38:59 - You do very well with the other questions.
39:01 - Okay, we'll leave that
39:03 for the next question.
39:05 Do you have the sadness of a comedian?
39:07 This conviction that all the comedians
39:09 you see hide such sadness
39:11 inside them and they wear such looks
39:13 that you never want to feel like they're your own.
39:15 - Yes, and I wear a look or not,
39:17 I wear it on my own.
39:19 I like being on my own.
39:21 I like to sit alone,
39:23 to write,
39:25 because I always wrote
39:27 on my own and I wanted peace.
39:29 When I wrote,
39:31 I remember, I didn't want
39:33 anyone to come into the room.
39:35 Because if someone comes in and moves,
39:37 when I'm listening,
39:39 I want to be in tune with what I'm listening to
39:41 and I listen to what I'm listening to.
39:43 And so, I left the food I was bringing
39:45 outside the door
39:47 and when the situation was
39:49 that I was drinking too much,
39:51 I opened the door to take it.
39:53 I didn't want anyone to come in.
39:55 I don't like to be disturbed by the room.
39:57 That's why I want to be in a small space
39:59 to sit with my writings,
40:01 my texts, when I don't want to...
40:03 - Do you characterize yourself as a strange person?
40:05 Are you strange?
40:07 - I guess...
40:09 I guess...
40:11 strange is a phrase that...
40:13 I would have bought it for myself.
40:17 I've never said it.
40:21 - Yes, you should have said it first.
40:23 - If I say it, it's a good thing.
40:25 - If it has a color, I don't like it.
40:27 - I would like to talk to you,
40:29 with your partner,
40:31 the lady with the red hair,
40:33 how long have you been together?
40:35 - Many years, Katerina.
40:37 - I want to tell you that you keep
40:39 the people next to you for many years.
40:41 - Of course.
40:43 - No, because that means that you are also with them.
40:45 - All my friends are many, many years old.
40:47 We've been together for many years.
40:49 I like that.
40:51 - Did they stay in Strava?
40:53 Those who you thought would stay?
40:55 - They left.
40:57 - They left?
40:59 - They left.
41:01 - I've never done it.
41:03 When Likourlakis was not in the cities above him.
41:05 - Right.
41:07 - The point is how I behave.
41:09 I can't say that my surprise is the distance.
41:11 My surprise is
41:13 the immorality that some people
41:15 hide behind them.
41:17 I didn't have it.
41:19 - I see.
41:21 - That's what bothers me.
41:23 - Did you tell them or did you show them?
41:25 - I tell them.
41:27 - Nice.
41:29 - I want to tell you the truth,
41:31 because I think that you see the truth.
41:33 I don't accept to tell this lie
41:35 that is...
41:37 How beautiful!
41:39 It's amazing!
41:41 I can't do that.
41:43 I get nervous.
41:45 I see you meet them outside
41:47 and you see the lie.
41:49 It's running.
41:51 How beautiful!
41:53 It's...
41:55 These are the specific moves.
41:57 - Yes, yes.
41:59 - They pull their hair and nothing else.
42:01 - How beautiful!
42:03 What happened?
42:05 - You are right.
42:07 - Will we see you on TV?
42:09 - I don't know if the kids want TV.
42:11 - Do you want to?
42:13 - I want to, but I prefer to do it my way.
42:15 - Very good.
42:17 I will ask you another question.
42:19 - I will.
42:21 - Tell me a good reason to come to the theater
42:23 and see you.
42:25 Not just for the show.
42:27 - I have the best reason.
42:29 - I don't want that.
42:31 I want to analyze it.
42:33 - No, no, no.
42:35 - Ok.
42:37 - Very good reason.
42:39 - I think you gave me the wrong answer.
42:41 I gave you the wrong answer.
42:43 Thank you very much.
42:45 - I had a great time.
42:47 - I am very happy.
42:49 For me, it's a point in 23
42:51 that you come back to the theater.
42:53 - Thank you very much.
42:55 - Because many people want to see your work.
42:57 You have a gift for Christmas.
42:59 This is it.
43:01 It's empty.
43:03 You put a tree in it.
43:05 Did you decorate it?
43:07 - No.
43:09 - I will give it to you.
43:11 - It's not edible.
43:13 - Ladies and gentlemen,
43:15 Mr. Lakis Lazakoulos!
43:17 [music]
43:19 (upbeat music)
43:22 (audience cheering)