Seat Adjustment in Punjab: IPP Ko Kitna Faida Hosakta Hai
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00:00 Pakistan party and PMLN meeting.
00:05 This meeting has been confirmed by different party leaders.
00:09 Mr. Awn Chaudhary was present at the meeting.
00:11 He has also confirmed it.
00:13 Apart from this, Mr. Firdaus Ashik Awan was asked
00:15 by our own 7 o'clock program, The Reporters,
00:18 whether this meeting has taken place.
00:20 Mr. Firdaus has also confirmed it.
00:22 Has this meeting taken place?
00:24 First, give us your reaction to this.
00:26 I confirm this meeting.
00:30 I have met Mr. Jangeet Ren,
00:32 PMLN's cabinet member and Mr. Shabaz Sharif.
00:36 The agenda is being discussed.
00:39 The seat adjustment is being discussed.
00:42 PMLN is currently doing seat adjustment with the kafleek.
00:45 It is doing it with those critics who left Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf.
00:49 Will there be seat adjustment with the Pakistan party?
00:52 What is the scope of seat adjustment?
00:54 The process of giving the ticket for PMLN is getting difficult.
00:57 We will talk about this.
00:59 Colonel Retired Hashim Dogar is with us.
01:01 Thank you very much, Mr. Dogar.
01:03 Sir, when we were listening to this,
01:05 and your personal opinion is that
01:07 the politics in Punjab should have been anti-PDM and anti-PMLN.
01:10 The meeting that has taken place,
01:12 has there been a discussion about seat adjustment?
01:14 Is it possible that IPP and PMLN's seat adjustment
01:16 will be done before the election?
01:20 Hello.
01:21 Yes, Mr. Dogar.
01:22 Yes.
01:23 Thank you very much, Maria.
01:25 I will confirm this meeting.
01:27 We had a meeting with Mr. Shabaz Sharif yesterday.
01:30 Our party's role model is Mr. Janki Karim.
01:35 So, basically, you can call it just the beginning.
01:38 This is just the beginning of the discussion.
01:41 And obviously, the main topic of this meeting was seat adjustment.
01:45 Now, let's see how it unfolds
01:47 and how many seats are agreed upon on both sides.
01:50 I think, after a few meetings,
01:52 all these things will be clear.
01:54 But before that, sir, when IPP was made,
01:57 and people came in a fair manner,
01:59 the opinion was that there should be anti-PMLN politics in Punjab.
02:02 You are also among those people.
02:04 Your opinion was that there should be anti-PDM and anti-PMLN politics.
02:07 How will the voter adjust after seat adjustment?
02:09 He is a voter of PMLN.
02:11 Your voter, who you consider to be anti-PMLN.
02:13 How will this picture be made?
02:15 This is absolutely right.
02:17 And I personally agree with this.
02:19 But obviously, when you are in a party,
02:21 then you have to follow the party's decisions.
02:24 And I am sure that this decision will be made
02:27 with a special thought.
02:29 It is yet to be made.
02:31 I think that our Central Executive Committee will also have a meeting.
02:34 We will bring all these things to the forefront.
02:36 Whether it is beneficial or harmful.
02:38 Obviously, in politics, you see the benefits.
02:41 So, I think that we will request these things
02:44 to be discussed in a CEC meeting.
02:46 I will also criticize this.
02:48 And I think that we should think and make a decision.
02:52 Because we saw that when our 20 people came in the beginning,
02:55 they lost 15-16 seats.
02:58 So, these are big questions.
03:01 So, we will definitely give our input.
03:03 But obviously, the decision will be made by the party.
03:05 Sir, as an independent political thinker,
03:07 let's leave it that you are a member of IPP.
03:09 What are the benefits of IPP's seat adjustment with PMLN?
03:12 And what are the disadvantages?
03:14 What are the pros and cons?
03:16 Obviously, when anyone does such a thing,
03:18 the benefit is that he tries to win these seats.
03:22 These are the things that we have to discuss.
03:25 And we should discuss how much benefit and loss we get from this.
03:29 Obviously, there are good and special people in our party
03:32 who have been elected many times in the past.
03:34 When they sit together,
03:36 this was a meeting yesterday.
03:38 So, this is just a start-up before the main meeting.
03:42 And when our executive committee will sit in this,
03:45 they will make the main decision.
03:47 And we will make the decision of the majority.
03:49 So, Nogar, what are the optics?
03:51 The rest of the parties, which are CAF League, IPP, PMLN,
03:54 are getting their seat adjustments,
03:56 versus the remaining PTIs.
03:58 What are the optics on Election Day?
04:01 The optics are that
04:03 Pakistan and the Tariq-e-Insaf are in a weak position.
04:08 Although they consider themselves very strong,
04:10 but after losing almost 80% of their candidates,
04:13 they have gone into this zone
04:15 that they will win even if they stand in the polls.
04:18 So, what does a party have to say about that?
04:21 The rest of the political parties are of this country.
04:25 And these are the problems that happened in the past
04:27 that the distances have increased so much
04:29 that people have stopped shaking hands in the assembly hall
04:32 and have reached the streets.
04:34 So, if there is a good intention,
04:36 and the main benefit of this is that
04:38 somehow, tomorrow, the country will get a revenge.
04:40 Our economic situation,
04:42 the fight that we are having among ourselves,
04:44 if we step out of this and think about the poor people of the country,
04:47 then if we are in a discussion with anyone,
04:50 then I think there is nothing wrong in that.
04:52 So, Nogar, what is the vote in your constituency?
04:55 Was it a pro-PTI vote?
04:57 Was it a personal vote?
04:58 Was it an anti-PMLN vote?
05:00 And when the last election was held,
05:02 the local level, the people of PMLN cut the roots of the imported candidates.
05:08 So, that was also an electoral problem.
05:11 But who is this voter?
05:13 Who is the common ground in PMLN and IPP?
05:16 Which voter will vote for both?
05:18 Will he vote for a joint candidate?
05:20 Look, you have a very beautiful point in this,
05:24 and I fully agree with it.
05:26 I just want to add that
05:28 there is a slight difference between PMLN and rural politics.
05:31 In rural politics, people are looking at who has a chance of winning tomorrow.
05:36 Because, of course, they have their own interests.
05:38 If someone wins, then our MP will do this,
05:40 my lane will be made, the lane will be made.
05:43 Yes, but the right-hand people of the parties,
05:46 they hesitate at such moments.
05:48 And suppose, if there is an adjustment in my constituency,
05:51 and the people of the non-league have been against me for 20-25 years,
05:54 then it will be very difficult that they may not vote for me.
05:57 But at the same time,
05:59 when these things are slowly clarified,
06:02 the Zimni election and the upcoming elections,
06:06 there is a lot of difference between us and the rest of the world.
06:08 At that time, PTI put up very good candidates in all the countries.
06:13 No interference of any kind was made.
06:15 Imran Khan held a rally in 20 districts.
06:18 And we, the MPs, we sat and watched at 3 polling stations.
06:23 This is how we managed those elections.
06:26 Now I don't see such cases.
06:28 Very good candidates.
06:29 I don't think they will run for the PTI election.
06:31 They may not have so much capacity.
06:33 In rural areas, from transportation to campaign running,
06:37 to managing the whole system,
06:39 you need a team of at least 400-500 people
06:42 to manage your election in a morning circle.
06:44 This is a matter of later.
06:46 Obviously, what you said,
06:48 whether we will be given the voter votes of Noondi or not,
06:50 these are all the things that I have submitted to you before
06:53 that we will keep these things ahead in our CEC.
06:55 And if we face losses, we should not do it.
06:58 If we benefit from it, if our seats are elected,
07:01 then there is no harm in making this decision.
07:03 Why will PMLN be so hostile to you?
07:05 What is the benefit of having their own candidate
07:07 and adjusting with the IPP?
07:09 Again, I need a political analysis of yours.
07:11 Why will PMLN adjust the seats with you?
07:14 They can do it.
07:16 There is nothing like that.
07:17 Obviously, we won in the Saira election with our own help.
07:21 It was not like that whoever got the ballot, won.
07:25 Or whoever got the lion's mark, won.
07:27 It is not good to give my personal example.
07:29 My right and left, 12 seats were won by Noondi.
07:31 I was in the middle of those 12 seats, who won.
07:33 So obviously, I will have some worth in it.
07:35 Or I will have a party, I will have a fight.
07:37 So, all these things, if they just combine to become...
07:41 Sir, but the most important factor is Noondi League.
07:44 It is with us, Hawakar Rukh.
07:46 All the bureaucracy has been told to everyone.
07:47 We are coming.
07:48 In fact, the majority is coming with two thirds of the population.
07:50 So, what is the need for seat adjustments?
07:52 They have promised, they have made it clear to the Kaaf League people.
07:54 Why should they make seat adjustments with the IPP?
07:56 When Hawakar Rukh is with them.
07:57 No, the reason is that not only they are coming, we are also coming.
08:01 If this is the case, then I know that we are also coming.
08:03 And our share will be in the government,
08:05 which is Hufaq or the government of the province.
08:07 We will have a share in that.
08:08 Sir, how much share will be there?
08:09 What is your opinion?
08:10 What are the guesses?
08:11 What is your opinion?
08:12 My opinion is, if you let it be for a few days,
08:14 this matter is settled,
08:15 seat adjustment is done or not.
08:17 There are few more of our candidates,
08:19 with whom we are in communication.
08:21 And maybe they will announce the number soon.
08:23 But I can very very candidly tell you that we will have a good share.
08:28 Okay, thank you very much.