Tension had started between the pair after Fred had to relinquish his role as camp chef, with many remarking that he was acting 'controlling' towards Josie Gibson when she took over the job. Defending his actions in his exit interview, Fred claimed the reason behind their fallout was because a culinary mistake Josie was consistently making.
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00:00 It started quite well, but you obviously found it really difficult handing over and letting go and letting Josie take on the cooking.
00:07 Yeah, because she doesn't know what she does in the kitchen.
00:10 She's just making it up as she goes along.
00:12 So I think that's a lot of steak with the food.
00:14 And it's not just what you're cooking at the moment, which of course is going to be good because the produce here are incredible.
00:19 It's what you can do the next day with the leftovers or the bones.
00:22 And now you're able to recycle everything.
00:25 That was your issue, wasn't it?
00:26 Because you said that to us down at the trial one day that she didn't keep things over to make stock or to add to the beans or rice the next day.
00:34 Yeah, totally.
00:36 Because, you know, you really need the calories and the calories are going to find them wherever you can.
00:41 And so, yeah, I think we missed out on quite a good few meals.
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