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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 30th November 2023
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00:03:01 Ashfaq, we were talking about vegetables.
00:03:09 Yes.
00:03:11 There are different types of vegetables in this season.
00:03:14 People like to eat mixed vegetables.
00:03:19 They like to eat saag.
00:03:24 It is a hard work.
00:03:26 It is difficult to cut the vegetables.
00:03:30 To wash, cut, cook.
00:03:34 From the garden?
00:03:37 No, you have to bring it home and cut it.
00:03:41 Is it easy to cut it?
00:03:43 Men are called to cut it.
00:03:47 A grinder is also useful.
00:03:49 Yes.
00:03:51 People like to eat it.
00:03:54 Why did God give you so much life?
00:03:57 Yes.
00:03:58 It is important.
00:04:00 There are different types of vegetables.
00:04:02 But the rates are also increasing.
00:04:05 Look at the price of peas.
00:04:09 Coriander and mint used to be 5 rupees.
00:04:12 Now it is 30 rupees.
00:04:15 Now it is 40 rupees.
00:04:17 Now there is no cart.
00:04:18 Now there is no cart.
00:04:21 Earlier, vegetables were given in green chilies, tomatoes, lemons.
00:04:27 Now there is no such thing.
00:04:29 Now you have to buy everything.
00:04:31 There are some basic vegetables.
00:04:34 Without which your food cannot be made.
00:04:37 Garlic, ginger, tomato, coriander, mint.
00:04:42 These are the ingredients without which food cannot be made.
00:04:45 There are many dishes made with potatoes.
00:04:49 In Pakistani culture, no dish is complete without potatoes.
00:04:54 2 years ago, 5 kg of potatoes cost 100 rupees.
00:04:59 The maximum price of onions was 50 rupees per kg.
00:05:04 5 kg of onions cost between 180 to 200 rupees.
00:05:10 Now the rates are 130, 140, 150 rupees per kg.
00:05:15 People are worried about where to go.
00:05:18 What can be done in this situation?
00:05:20 We will talk about this too.
00:05:22 But what are the rates of vegetables?
00:05:24 And why are the rates so high?
00:05:26 Anwar Khan from Karachi will be with us.
00:05:29 Along with him, Almas Ahmed Khan from Lahore will join us.
00:05:32 Rana Farooq from Multan is with us.
00:05:34 Let's start with Anwar Khan.
00:05:38 He is from Karachi.
00:05:40 Anwar, tell me, this ginger cost 1200 rupees per kg.
00:05:45 Then it went up to 600, 750, 700.
00:05:48 Garlic is between 650 and 700.
00:05:55 What is the reason for this?
00:05:57 Why are the prices so high?
00:06:00 Ashfaq, we talk about the atmosphere, flowers, music, and heart-warming things in the morning.
00:06:15 But how can we talk about cauliflower?
00:06:19 When a person goes to the market, his mood changes.
00:06:27 The prices are at the highest level.
00:06:30 You talked about vegetables.
00:06:32 Ginger costs 450, 500, 600, and 650.
00:06:35 The price of this is from 950 to 1200 rupees per kg.
00:06:40 Let's divide it into dry and wet.
00:06:44 Potatoes cost 600 to 800 rupees per kg.
00:06:51 On the lowest level, onions cost 10 to 12 kg.
00:06:59 But the basic problem is that the price control committee is not working.
00:07:09 If the government is elected, it will work better.
00:07:16 The government is working in its own way, but the basic problem is bureaucracy.
00:07:21 The government is one, but the people who collect the prices are also a problem.
00:07:27 The government is one, but the people who collect the prices are also a problem.
00:07:34 This has been going on for a long time.
00:07:37 Yes, this is a situation, but if you talk about vegetables, ginger, garlic...
00:07:42 I have already told you about peas.
00:07:50 Yes, Anwar, continue.
00:07:53 The situation is that these are the basic things for the cities.
00:07:58 Whenever Anwar starts talking about rates, he has a plan.
00:08:04 The shopkeeper is saying not to talk about vegetables.
00:08:07 Let's talk to Almas.
00:08:09 You must have heard some negative things.
00:08:12 He will go to Anwar and tell you about the rates.
00:08:15 Is the situation there better than in Karachi?
00:08:20 The situation is better here.
00:08:24 The minister has focused on the roads, bridges, flyovers.
00:08:31 He is not as focused on vegetables as in Karachi.
00:08:38 The basic ingredients of vegetables in Lahore...
00:08:43 Onions, tomatoes, ginger, garlic are expensive.
00:08:49 The first grade onions are from Rs. 160 to Rs. 170.
00:08:54 The second grade onions are from Rs. 140 to Rs. 150.
00:08:58 The second grade onions are small and wet.
00:09:04 The tomatoes are from Rs. 160 to Rs. 160 per kg.
00:09:09 These are expensive because they are imported.
00:09:12 These are imported from Afghanistan.
00:09:15 Or from places like KPK.
00:09:21 The basic course of vegetables is cheap.
00:09:28 You were talking about peas.
00:09:32 It is from Rs. 260 to Rs. 270.
00:09:35 It is difficult to cut and peel them.
00:09:40 It is difficult to take out the peas from the tomatoes.
00:09:45 It is difficult to cook them.
00:09:48 You were talking about ginger.
00:09:52 Ginger was expensive a month or two ago.
00:09:57 It was from Rs. 1200 to Rs. 1400.
00:10:00 Now it is Rs. 500 per kg.
00:10:03 The ginger from China is still expensive.
00:10:06 This is from Thailand.
00:10:08 It is Rs. 500 per kg.
00:10:10 This is wet ginger.
00:10:12 It is more expensive.
00:10:14 It is around Rs. 600.
00:10:18 Potatoes are from Rs. 150 per kg.
00:10:22 These are new potatoes.
00:10:23 They are not sweet.
00:10:25 Ashfaq, there was a common vegetable called Shaljum.
00:10:31 There are two types of Shaljum.
00:10:33 One is white and the other is yellow.
00:10:35 The white one is Rs. 120 per kg.
00:10:37 The yellow one is better and is Rs. 160 per kg.
00:10:43 There was a time when people used to feed cows with Shaljum.
00:10:51 They also used to feed them with leaves.
00:10:53 But now it is Rs. 160 per kg.
00:10:56 Other vegetables are cheaper than Karachi.
00:11:02 When Karachi comes from Afghanistan or from KPK,
00:11:07 onions and tomatoes will be expensive.
00:11:10 Lahore is close to Karachi.
00:11:13 So there is a difference.
00:11:17 There is a difference but we can see the prices of vegetables.
00:11:23 People make a lot of Shaljum.
00:11:27 People try it in Chinese homes.
00:11:29 They need a lot of vegetables.
00:11:31 Rana Farooq is with us from Multan.
00:11:33 Rana Farooq, tell us.
00:11:35 You have heard about Karachi and Lahore.
00:11:40 Tell us about the rates in Multan.
00:11:42 Are people getting relief from the prices of vegetables?
00:11:47 Or are the prices expensive?
00:11:49 The rates of vegetables are high.
00:11:55 But the prices of ginger and garlic were high a month or two ago.
00:12:01 Now the prices of ginger are between Rs. 500-600.
00:12:08 Garlic is between Rs. 300-400.
00:12:12 The basic ingredients of vegetables are tomatoes.
00:12:17 Tomatoes are sold for Rs. 120-150 per kg.
00:12:20 Potatoes are used in almost all vegetables.
00:12:25 It is sold for Rs. 150 per kg.
00:12:27 It is sold for Rs. 120 per kg.
00:12:29 It is a new potato.
00:12:30 It is salty and not sweet.
00:12:32 The price of green chilies is between Rs. 80-100 per kg.
00:12:40 The basic ingredients of vegetables are expensive.
00:12:47 In our culture, there are 7-8 members in a family.
00:12:53 When you leave home to buy vegetables for those 7-8 members,
00:12:57 you can easily get Rs. 1000-1200.
00:13:01 When you come to the shop and buy small things,
00:13:04 you can easily get Rs. 1200-1300.
00:13:07 The situation is not ideal.
00:13:10 Vegetables are expensive.
00:13:12 The prices of ginger and garlic have gone down.
00:13:15 The prices of peas are Rs. 250.
00:13:19 The prices of rice are also low.
00:13:23 The prices of rice are also low.
00:13:27 The prices of vegetables are also low.
00:13:33 The people here are very clever.
00:13:36 Is it true?
00:13:37 Yes, it is true.
00:13:39 The people here are very clever.
00:13:41 The main reason is that there is no check-in balance.
00:13:45 We are talking to people from Lahore, Multan and Karachi.
00:13:49 This is a very big area.
00:13:52 The rates are different here.
00:13:53 If you go to Kent, the rates are different.
00:13:56 If you go to Pulgash, the rates are different.
00:13:58 The prices are different here.
00:14:02 Thank you so much, Rana Farooq.
00:14:04 We were joined by Anwar from Karachi.
00:14:08 He will tell us about the rates of the people here.
00:14:11 The Bureau of Supply and Price has sent a letter to all the commissioners
00:14:18 about the failure of the inflation control.
00:14:22 It says that the Bureau of Supply and Price is not serious about price control.
00:14:29 The people are left to the mercy of the profiteers.
00:14:32 This is what we have been saying for the past two years.
00:14:37 There is a concern about the failure of the Bureau of Supply and Price control.
00:14:41 The Bureau of Supply and Price has also been accused of failure.
00:14:45 The letter says that the Bureau of Supply and Price is controlled by the magistrate.
00:14:50 It is surprising that no district administration is serious about price control.
00:14:56 The district administration, the market committee, and the assistant commissioners
00:14:59 have not been able to control the prices.
00:15:02 It is important that the inspectors go to the market to determine the prices.
00:15:06 The assistant commissioners have left the beneficiaries to the mercy of the profiteers.
00:15:12 The inflation is so high.
00:15:14 What can be done in this situation?
00:15:16 We have brought some solutions for you.
00:15:18 We have seen that there was a lot of culture before.
00:15:21 Even now, in many areas, especially in the inner areas of Sindh and Punjab,
00:15:27 there is a lot of culture.
00:15:28 People grow vegetables in their homes.
00:15:31 Can you do the same?
00:15:33 The urban life is very fast.
00:15:36 There is not much space in other people's homes.
00:15:38 But what can you do?
00:15:39 If you grow vegetables in your home, the plants will be completely destroyed.
00:15:44 The plants will not wither.
00:15:46 What can be done?
00:15:48 You can grow vegetables in your home and take advantage of it.
00:15:53 We have with us the expert in gardening, Mohammad Izharul Haq.
00:15:57 He has brought some plants that will definitely be vegetables.
00:16:02 Assalamu Alaikum.
00:16:03 Walaikum Assalam.
00:16:04 Is it possible for people to grow vegetables in their homes?
00:16:09 Because the plants are growing.
00:16:12 They are withering.
00:16:13 If you don't water on time, if you water at the wrong time,
00:16:16 these are big problems.
00:16:17 If the sun is too strong, the plants will not get sunlight.
00:16:19 We don't understand what we did wrong.
00:16:21 The first thing we advise people is that you should do gardening in your home.
00:16:30 My name is Izhar and I work as a consultant in Bukhari Horticulture.
00:16:34 Especially in my field of kitchen gardening.
00:16:37 We grow plants in our homes.
00:16:39 Plants are a living thing.
00:16:43 If we fulfill their requirements, they will provide us with good leaves and fruits.
00:16:49 The plants require sunlight and water.
00:16:53 There are two types of sunlight.
00:16:55 Sunlight or artificial light.
00:16:58 Lamp.
00:16:59 Why did I mention artificial light, lamp or any other source of light?
00:17:04 Because in Karachi and Lahore, most people live in apartments.
00:17:09 In Karachi?
00:17:11 Yes, in Karachi.
00:17:12 Because there are high-rise buildings.
00:17:14 So either there is a balcony available or it is not available.
00:17:17 Or you can't open it because of smog.
00:17:19 So people are coming to indoor gardening.
00:17:21 If we have a balcony and sunlight reaches there,
00:17:27 we encourage people to grow leafy vegetables.
00:17:29 Especially spinach, curry leaves, mint, coriander.
00:17:34 Do grow them in your home.
00:17:36 I have never seen the color of spinach in the vegetables that we grow at home.
00:17:40 It is so fresh.
00:17:41 When spinach reaches our home, many of its beneficial antioxidants are wasted.
00:17:49 You know how many diseases are spreading due to smog.
00:17:52 People and doctors say that if we don't use antioxidants,
00:17:56 we can create harmful effects.
00:17:59 Tell me one thing.
00:18:00 It is very important to know.
00:18:02 The pots you have kept,
00:18:04 you have said that there is water and light in it.
00:18:07 The soil used in it and the level of fertilization,
00:18:12 how the soil should be, is also an important factor.
00:18:15 The soil and water I told you was the primary.
00:18:18 It should get light and water.
00:18:21 The second soil, it is very simple.
00:18:23 You don't have to make it complex.
00:18:26 There is a lot of information available on the internet.
00:18:28 You can buy the simple soil and fertilizer mix from the nursery.
00:18:32 This is a 4-inch pot.
00:18:33 There is spinach in this 4-inch pot.
00:18:35 If I have 4-5 such pots,
00:18:37 I have about half a kilo of spinach every day.
00:18:40 I harvest spinach from it.
00:18:42 We don't eat spinach every day.
00:18:44 Once or twice a week, we eat spinach.
00:18:47 It will come out again by that time.
00:18:49 You are getting fresh spinach sitting at home.
00:18:51 We don't need to change this.
00:18:53 We don't need to buy a big plant.
00:18:56 We have smartphones and we see different things.
00:19:00 We put more effort in it.
00:19:02 We put more effort.
00:19:03 We put more effort.
00:19:04 We give more water.
00:19:05 People often ask how to give water.
00:19:07 I give advice to people.
00:19:08 You have soil.
00:19:09 You can check it once with your finger.
00:19:11 If you feel it is moist, don't give water.
00:19:13 But with practice, you will understand
00:19:15 which plant needs more water and which plant needs less water.
00:19:18 But the rule of thumb is
00:19:21 that you check it with your finger.
00:19:23 You check it with your finger for 1 inch.
00:19:24 If you feel it is moist, don't give water.
00:19:26 Tell me, you have kept these 3 things.
00:19:28 Curry leaves, mint, and this is mint.
00:19:30 It is a daily food.
00:19:31 Apart from this, you can use basil, coriander, etc.
00:19:34 Yes, all the plants that we use leaves,
00:19:37 they are easily available in our homes.
00:19:40 Apart from this, tomatoes, chilies, and lemons.
00:19:42 Can tomatoes be grown?
00:19:43 Yes, it is very easy to grow.
00:19:44 Tomatoes are becoming expensive.
00:19:46 If we pay attention to the proper shade,
00:19:49 we can grow tomatoes in the summer.
00:19:51 Tomatoes don't grow much.
00:19:52 We don't use 1 kg tomatoes.
00:19:54 If we use more than half a pound or 2 tomatoes every year,
00:19:58 we can easily manage it with our kitchen garden.
00:20:01 Why not?
00:20:02 People use different things.
00:20:05 One of our friends is telling that
00:20:06 in a bag of flour, you can use it by filling it with soil.
00:20:10 It can be used in a tyre.
00:20:12 It can be used in old utensils.
00:20:15 It is not necessary to find pots.
00:20:16 It is not necessary to find pots.
00:20:17 You can use an old bag of flour filled with soil.
00:20:20 You can grow potatoes in it.
00:20:22 Garlic, onions, etc. can be grown.
00:20:24 It can be grown in Karachi.
00:20:25 People think that Karachi is a city where things come from outside.
00:20:28 No, you can grow carrots and radishes in your homes.
00:20:32 Shaljam was also telling this.
00:20:33 This is going to be in the land.
00:20:35 So, explain to me one thing,
00:20:36 why do we not have ginger in Pakistan?
00:20:38 Ginger needs a shady environment.
00:20:41 We grow ginger in open sun.
00:20:46 This question is basically for this.
00:20:48 Because the ginger we grow comes from Thailand and China.
00:20:52 In Pakistan, ginger is not grown commercially.
00:20:55 This is a big problem.
00:20:56 That is why its rates are 600-700.
00:20:59 Ginger does not grow in full sun.
00:21:02 It gets spoiled.
00:21:03 So, it has an intercropping system.
00:21:06 You plant a crop in a garden.
00:21:09 You plant it under a mango tree.
00:21:11 If you promote that, ginger can grow easily.
00:21:14 People are growing it in small areas.
00:21:17 As I am talking about cities,
00:21:19 ginger and garlic can be grown in a small quantity.
00:21:21 You can grow it in your homes.
00:21:23 You can bring pots from your homes.
00:21:25 You said a good thing.
00:21:26 This pot is enough.
00:21:28 This size pot is enough.
00:21:30 People think that if it is bigger,
00:21:32 they can transfer it to a bigger pot.
00:21:34 This is not necessary.
00:21:35 This is not necessary.
00:21:36 This is a big mistake.
00:21:38 When we have a small pot,
00:21:39 we always start it with small pots.
00:21:41 If you take a big pot and plant a small pot,
00:21:45 it starts growing after a few days.
00:21:47 Why?
00:21:48 Because the pressure of the soil on the roots cannot be tolerated.
00:21:51 The roots of the small pot grow fast.
00:21:54 Then we take it stepwise.
00:21:55 For example, this is a 4-inch pot.
00:21:57 We will bring it to 6-inch.
00:21:58 Then to 10-inch.
00:21:59 Then to 30-inch.
00:22:02 I want to ask you one thing.
00:22:04 If we keep it in sunlight,
00:22:06 then in our country,
00:22:08 it will take 8-9 hours.
00:22:10 The sun will not go anywhere.
00:22:12 How long can it be kept?
00:22:14 All these plants are full sun plants.
00:22:17 Even in hot summer.
00:22:19 You can keep them in hot summer.
00:22:21 But we can also provide shade to the leaves.
00:22:26 For example, tomatoes.
00:22:27 Tomatoes can be kept in full sun in winter.
00:22:30 But in hot summer, from April to October,
00:22:32 it needs shade.
00:22:34 It is the same plant and the same place.
00:22:36 But because the weather has changed,
00:22:38 it needs shade in summer.
00:22:40 But now, because of winter,
00:22:42 you can keep it in full sun.
00:22:44 In summer, it needs shade.
00:22:46 It gets morning sunlight.
00:22:48 If people want to keep it in full sun,
00:22:51 then why not provide an artificial light?
00:22:53 It is not expensive.
00:22:55 You can calculate.
00:22:57 If you put a 50W LED floodlight on your plant,
00:23:00 then you can grow 3x3 feet.
00:23:04 LED will also work?
00:23:05 Yes, it will work.
00:23:06 What should be the distance?
00:23:07 If you put it at a distance of 18 inches,
00:23:09 then you can grow as many plants as you want.
00:23:14 If you turn on a 50W LED for 14 hours,
00:23:18 for 30 days,
00:23:19 that is, every day,
00:23:20 in 24 hours,
00:23:21 you can turn it on for 14 hours.
00:23:22 Then the bill for a day will be 25-26 rupees.
00:23:25 I am talking about Karachi grade.
00:23:27 So, it is nothing.
00:23:28 If you are getting a fresh vegetable,
00:23:29 which is healthy,
00:23:30 for example, this mint,
00:23:32 if I make tea with it,
00:23:34 or I make chutney with it,
00:23:35 and I get it from the market,
00:23:37 it will be a different story.
00:23:38 Yes, it is visible.
00:23:39 It gets water and it starts smelling.
00:23:42 But when it is cut,
00:23:44 after 2-2.5 hours,
00:23:45 it reaches the market,
00:23:47 and then it reaches you.
00:23:48 I tried in my childhood,
00:23:50 like green chilies, lemon.
00:23:51 So, the size of the lemon,
00:23:53 the plant was small,
00:23:54 so its size was not big.
00:23:56 So, what can be done for this?
00:23:58 For lemon,
00:23:59 lemon is a plant that
00:24:00 is giving us fruits.
00:24:01 Like tomatoes, chilies, lemons,
00:24:02 these are fruit plants.
00:24:03 Fruit plants need more nutrition.
00:24:05 We provide fertilizers,
00:24:07 but when it comes to fruiting,
00:24:09 then we give it nutrition.
00:24:10 Nutrition,
00:24:11 I am telling you a very simple formula.
00:24:13 You get mustard cake in the market.
00:24:15 In Karachi, Lahore, etc.,
00:24:17 it is easily available everywhere.
00:24:19 When the oil of mustard is removed,
00:24:20 then it is called mustard seed cake.
00:24:23 And in common language,
00:24:24 it is called mustard cake.
00:24:25 You leave it in about 1 tablespoon,
00:24:27 3 liters of water for 3 days.
00:24:30 On the 4th day,
00:24:31 you put that water in your plant.
00:24:32 It is a balanced fertilizer,
00:24:34 organic fertilizer,
00:24:35 and it does a very good job.
00:24:36 Especially, all these fruiting,
00:24:38 like tomatoes, chilies, lemons.
00:24:39 We can also plant seeds in them.
00:24:40 Tomatoes, green chilies,
00:24:42 can you produce it from home?
00:24:44 Yes, absolutely.
00:24:45 Or do you have to provide something
00:24:46 from outside?
00:24:47 It is better that we try
00:24:49 to find a local tomato,
00:24:51 or a local chili,
00:24:52 but it is not available now.
00:24:53 So,
00:24:54 especially,
00:24:55 go to the seed shop and ask for a local one.
00:24:57 Once you buy a local seed,
00:24:59 then you dry the fruit
00:25:01 that you have and take it with you.
00:25:04 I would like to ask while staying at Leemu,
00:25:06 how much sunlight does it need?
00:25:08 Because I also brought one, but...
00:25:10 Leemu is a full sun plant.
00:25:12 Leemu cannot grow in shade.
00:25:14 So, Leemu needs sunlight all day.
00:25:16 Or at least,
00:25:17 it should get direct sunlight
00:25:19 till 12 or 1 in the morning.
00:25:21 Without that, it will not produce fruit.
00:25:23 It can produce leaves,
00:25:24 but not fruit.
00:25:25 But, there is a variety of Leemu,
00:25:27 called Kafir Lime,
00:25:28 which is widely used in Italian and Thai cuisine.
00:25:31 Its leaves are used.
00:25:33 So,
00:25:34 the thing that is made of leaves,
00:25:35 now, let's understand the rule of thumb,
00:25:36 the thing that is made of leaves,
00:25:37 can be grown in shade or in low sunlight.
00:25:40 But, the thing that is made of fruits,
00:25:41 like chilies, tomatoes, and lemons,
00:25:43 it needs full sun.
00:25:44 Thank you so much.
00:25:46 Thank you so much.
00:25:47 It was very useful information.
00:25:48 Please note it down.
00:25:49 If you could not note it down now,
00:25:50 then you can definitely check it later
00:25:51 on the recorded video.
00:25:53 We are taking a break here.
00:25:54 We will come back after the break.
00:25:55 Welcome back once again.
00:26:06 And, the last segment that we were doing,
00:26:08 Ashfaq, I forgot to ask a very important question.
00:26:10 Yes, tell me.
00:26:11 I wanted to ask about money plant.
00:26:13 The money plant that we keep,
00:26:15 does it generate money?
00:26:17 Nice, very nice.
00:26:18 Do you have a money plant?
00:26:20 I want to keep one.
00:26:21 I had one.
00:26:22 Keep it and see.
00:26:23 Does it generate money?
00:26:24 I think, the timing of money can change.
00:26:27 Whether it generates money or not.
00:26:29 Does it get a lakh?
00:26:30 I don't know about that.
00:26:31 It is a luck plant, right?
00:26:33 No, when money comes,
00:26:35 it is said that your luck will also open.
00:26:38 It happens like that.
00:26:39 Does money have anything to do with luck?
00:26:41 What do you mean by luck?
00:26:43 People are very rich,
00:26:45 but they are not so lucky.
00:26:47 You can do a lot with money.
00:26:48 Yes.
00:26:49 You need money.
00:26:50 Let's talk about political issues,
00:26:52 apart from non-political issues.
00:26:54 The thing is that Nawaz Sharif's punishment
00:26:56 was announced yesterday.
00:26:58 Two members of the Islamabad High Court,
00:27:00 who were in the Chief Justice's office,
00:27:02 gave this verdict.
00:27:03 And, basically, the 10-year sentence
00:27:05 that was announced to Nawaz Sharif
00:27:07 in July 2018,
00:27:09 after that,
00:27:11 the punishment was announced yesterday.
00:27:13 Remember that on the basis of this punishment,
00:27:15 he was also given a notice
00:27:17 when he left the country
00:27:19 after 8 weeks of treatment.
00:27:21 And then he returned after 4 years.
00:27:23 And then, not only was the punishment
00:27:25 announced to Nawaz Sharif,
00:27:27 but you saw that there were other references.
00:27:29 These were basically apartments.
00:27:31 In the area of Mayor's Fair,
00:27:33 which is a very famous and expensive
00:27:35 and well-known area of London.
00:27:37 And there are 4 apartments there
00:27:39 and there were talks about this.
00:27:41 And in the beginning,
00:27:43 when the situation was understood last year,
00:27:45 Maryam Nawaz Sahiba was acquitted from this case.
00:27:47 So, everyone said that
00:27:49 this phase would be easy for Nawaz Sharif.
00:27:51 But, one case is left,
00:27:53 that of Al-Aziziyah.
00:27:55 In which she was imprisoned for 7 years.
00:27:57 She was fined 4.25 million rupees.
00:27:59 See, what happens with that question?
00:28:01 Now, this matter will also go ahead.
00:28:03 Now, see what Nawaz Sharif said.
00:28:05 He said, "I thank Allah."
00:28:07 See what he said.
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00:28:21 Saat hi ab abko batadein sabik wazir-e-Azam ab dono hi bhai wazir-e-Azam rah chuke hai, sabik wazir-e-Azam shahid.
00:28:28 Noon League aur MQM Pakistan ki gudajita roz ek aur baithak bhi hui aur Ahsan Iqbal sahab ne yeh kaha aise mein ki Sindh mein zyada zyada nashasthon ke liye ek duzre se taawun kiya jayega.
00:28:38 yaani ki MQM Pakistan aur Noon League apas mein taawun karenge.
00:28:41 Faisal kareem Kundi sahab yeh firmatein jo ke People's Party ke rahna maa hai, Noon League awam mein jane se dar rahi hai.
00:28:48 Toh yeh kaafi saari cheezein. Aur saat hi woh karenge jo 120 aur 130 ka jo daawa kar raha hai, woh sirf daawa hi hai.
00:28:54 Sherry Rahman, Pakistan People's Party ki senior, humaare saath maujood hai, Senator Sherry Rahman, thank you so much, good morning to you.
00:29:00 Aap kaise dekh rahi hai aane baali situation mein, kyunki aapki party kaafi tahafuzat ka azhaar karte rahi hai, Bilawal sahab azhaar karte rahi hai, level playing field ka aur deegar moamlat ke hawale se.
00:29:11 Aapko lagta hai jo election hone jaa rahe hain, saaf shafaaf election honge aur uspe kisi party ko usbhag jab election ho raha honge tahafuzat tamam tarh door ho jayenge?
00:29:20 Thank you Shukriya, aapko agar awaaz aar rahi hai toh bata rahi hain.
00:29:24 Ji ji, we can hear you.
00:29:26 So, surat hai haal yeh ke baki Pakistan People's Party ne har election mein yeh munsafana election aur level playing field ki haathna baat nahi saabta hai, lekin jid ho jayat ki hai.
00:29:39 Aap iska matlab yeh...
00:29:41 Sherry sahiba?
00:29:46 Acha hum connect karne ki koshish karte hain Sherry Rahman ko.
00:29:50 People's Party ki senior Ranima maharaj saab maujood hain abhi, lekin we'll try to connect her.
00:29:55 Ab yeh hai chakkar ke Nawaz Sharif saab ki saza jis tarah se hum tazkira kar rahe the, ek ek karke wo muattal hoti jaa rahi hai ya wo khatm hoti jaa rahi hai, toh ek unke... matlab election mein hisa lene ki raah hamwaar ho jayegi agar Supreme Court ki jaanib se bhi unko relief de diya jaata hai, wo 62(f) wala jo maamla tha, tahayat naheli wala.
00:30:13 Uspe aapko pata hai ki election commission ki jaanib se, election commission nahi, balke election act 2017 mein jo tarmeem ki gayi thi, jisme naheli ki term jo hai, wo 5 saal ho ni hai, ke usko aahine Pakistan ke saath mila karke kis tarah se dekha jayega, ke naheli kya tahayat hogi, ya phir 5 saal ki term ke liye hogi, kyunke wo ek qanun hai.
00:30:30 Noon league yeh kehti hai, election act pass ho gaya aur tamam tar marahil taah ho gaya, Shahid Rehman sahab ek baad phir humaar saath hai, batayi hain ki munsifana election hona zyar hai badi zarurat hai, lekin kya in halaq mein aapko lagta hai aisa hone jaa raha hai?
00:30:45 Dekhi sorry humaara munsifana ho gaya tha, main yeh keh rahi thi, ke dekhe arz yeh hai, har dafa humne election ko istara karne ke liye, level playing field, munsifana, ghair jaanib daat karne ke liye, badi jiddu jihad ki hai aur peacock party ke gyalon, humare jitne bhi shuhda hain aur sarshaaz karakoon hain,
00:31:09 sabne apne khoon se is kuch humki jahmuri duniyat ki abhyari ki hai, dekhiye toh humare liye yeh badi aahim cheez hoti hai, chahe dooson ke liye nahi ho, hum isliye election ko hamesha zaruri samajhte hain, idaro ka bhi itraam karte hain, aapka sawal yeh ke hum kya samajhte hain,
00:31:30 dekhiye election time par hona, waise bhi ab waqt aapne dekha ke nikal gaya hai, lekit chaliye ek date announce hui hai, ek tarikh announce ho bhi hai aur is hawale se is tarikh ko bhi announce karwane mein, peacock party ka bahut hain,
00:31:47 humara ek diyaniya aur mustafil is par sawal uthana uske hawale se uski wajah se main samajhti hu yeh jawab mein ek date aayi, lekin sawal yeh bhi uthra hai,
00:32:01 ek date ke baad, tarikh ke baad to election schedule ek hafte mein, aap agar election act ka mutala karein to wo yehi kehta hai, ek hafte mein election schedule aana chahiye, to aap baag baag yeh karna padha hai, schedule aana padha hai,
00:32:16 to waqt par election hona humare saare edaro ki jo saak hai aur unki credibility ke liye, unki apni saak ke liye bahut zaroori hai aur mulk ke liye bahut zaroori hai, is waqt beyakini ka jo haal hai is waqt mulk mein,
00:32:32 mustafil yehi sawal puch raha hai na, main aur aap kya baat kar rahein, election honge, nahi honge, humein iske bajay baat nahi honi chahiye thi ki awam ko kis zara hum badhali se nikal sakte,
00:32:43 Ali sahab baat yeh hai ki aap beyakini ka tazkira karein hai, aap keh rahi hai ki uncertainty hai aur sawal hai zehno mein, aapko lagta hai ki Noon League bhi aise hi opinion share karte hogi, kyunki Mian sahab ko to relief bhi mil raha hai,
00:32:55 aur zahira ki adalaton se unko, matlab yeh kiye bari bhi kiya jaa raha hai, us par aap kya comment karengi?
00:33:01 Dekhi, main unke Noon League par unki tarjumaani to nahi kar sakte hain, aur zyada mein tabsara bhi nahi karna, tekin yeh to koon ko hongi ki dekhi aaj humaara yaum-e-taqees hai,
00:33:15 56 years, punch-punch hain humaara yaum-e-taqees hai, isme aap dekhne ke humko to kabhi is tarah kahe nahi hua, aur baat yeh hai ki dekhiye,
00:33:33 aur jab jo bhi aage hota hai, logon ke saamne sab kuch hai, wo dekh bhi rahe hain, aur bhaar bhi rahe hain, aur waham pakka baar shahoor hai, unko yeh bhi pata hai,
00:33:44 kaun kya keh raha hai, humein yeh pata hai, aur humein pakka yakeen hai, ki chitna aap aage karte jayenge election ki taarif ko,
00:33:53 toh isse bahut mess-wajoo-manti message jayega, wo yeh ke aap jab chahe apne rules, apne qaid aur zawaabin toh khas-toh se apne ayeen ke saath khilwaad kar sakte hain,
00:34:08 aur uske aur koi wajoo-haat hain, yeh ek jahmuriyat ke liye, aur pakistan ki bain-ul-akwami-sugat-e-haal opposition ke liye bhi, yeh ek acha pehgaam nahi hai,
00:34:22 toh doodhri baat yeh, kyuki sab yeh kehte hain, ki ab aap kya kis tarah ki democracy hain, ki yeh cheezein jo basic hain, jo buniyadi hain,
00:34:30 yeh kyun negotiable har zafa ho jati ho, unko nahi hona chahiye, doodhri baat yeh dekhiye, sabse vada burhan isfahat mulk mein,
00:34:39 ab-laat ka hai, aur bharti bhi jo isfahat-e-fraat-e-zar hai, yeh wo bhart, jo dabaw hai, wo zaroori hai, toh agar aap yeh karte rahein,
00:34:51 toh mund mein jo sambhlao kar, jo sambhalna hai maheshad ko, wo main samjhati hoon, nahi ho paida,
00:35:00 toh aap exposed hoon, bain-ul-aqwami duniya mein, chahe YMF hoon, ya doorse multilateral development banks hoon, aap exposed hain,
00:35:10 aur aapka exposure itna hai ki 70% ka abse zyada qarda, aapke GDP par haath hoon.
00:35:16 Yeh bade aham challenges hain, yeh bade aham issues hain, bilkul aap sahi keh rahi hain, thank you so much Sherry Rahman sahab,
00:35:20 wo toob kar rahi hain, unhone kaahein ki zayir hai, jo masayil isfahat hain, unpe focus karna bhi zaruri hain, khansu bhi jo maashri challenges ka saath.
00:35:27 Bilkul ji, toh aap kya karne jaa rahe hain hum log?
00:35:30 Acha ji, hum baat kar rahe hain.
00:35:32 Aap hum baat karenge painting ki.
00:35:33 Painting ki baat kar rahe hain.
00:35:34 Aur wo painting is tarah ki hai, coins painting.
00:35:36 Acha, coins honge toh is painting hongi, coins ka hona aaj ka zaruri hai.
00:35:41 Coins ka hona aaj ka bade zaruri hai is seez ki, different tarah ke coins aur different tarah ki cheezein use karte hain.
00:35:47 Coins ki ab wo image bhi rahi hai, baise Ashfaq, pehle bahut kuch aap us coins se hasal kar lete the,
00:35:51 ab toh unki utni worth, unki value nahi rahi hai, monetary baat kar rahi hain.
00:35:55 Monetary terms mein, aur koi aapko coins deta bhi hai toh aap hairaj se usko dekhte hain,
00:35:58 alaake pehle badi, humare bachpan me badi wakat hua karte thi, lekin ispe mazeed bhi hum baat karenge thodisa.
00:36:03 Toh Karachi se Rubina Alvi, ek khatun ke baare mein hume bata rahi hain,
00:36:07 jinnone shadi ke baad bhi apne shohar aur family ki support se apne painting ki shok ko jari rakha hua hai.
00:36:13 Kya baat hai, logon ki paas kitne unique ideas hote hain,
00:36:17 sochein kitna mushkil hota hai coins pe painting karna, bati.
00:36:19 Aur unko jama karna, unko dhulna, aur wo bhi mulk ke nahi, bairuni mulk ke.
00:36:25 So break lete hain, break ke baad aatein.
00:36:27 Welcome back once again, aur humare maushree mein istanha ke baakiyaat hote rahete hain,
00:36:41 jis baakiyaat ke baare mein ab hum aapko batane jaa rahe hain,
00:36:44 Kohistan mein ek ladki ko jis bedardhi se katil kiya gaya,
00:36:47 aur is maamliye ko joda jaa rahe hain deepfake se.
00:36:50 Yani ke usse related kuch aesi tasveer, video viral hui,
00:36:55 jo ke deepfake ka matlabhi original nahi thi,
00:36:58 lekin uski buniyat par usko jirge ke faisal ke baad, jis bedardhi se katil kiya gaya,
00:37:02 aur yeh tayyap aaya gaya uski family aur jirge walon ki jaanib se,
00:37:06 ke yeh ghairat ke naam pe jisse hum katil kehte hain na,
00:37:09 yeh khandaan ki naag kata di, izzat gawa di.
00:37:12 Toh yeh jo maamla hai, iski police tehkikat kar rahi,
00:37:15 ke yeh asal maamla shuru kahan se hua,
00:37:17 aur khas toh pe baap ko bhi raasat mein nahi liya gaya hai,
00:37:20 jiswani remand par hai iska baap, aur video yeh ladke aur ladki ki viral hai.
00:37:24 Aur aap yeh dekhe hain ki yeh silsila yeh toh deepfake tha,
00:37:26 isse pehle aapko, wo ek shaadi ki video ka chakkar yaad hai,
00:37:30 saan 2012 mein, 4 se 5 ladkiyon ko kis tarike se maut ke ghaat utara gaya tha,
00:37:36 aur aap yeh dekhiye ke 2012 se aaj 2023 khatm ho raha hai,
00:37:41 lekin humare hain kuch nahi bata.
00:37:43 Matlab ke 10-11 saal...
00:37:44 Nothing has changed. Ek toh deepfake hona, wo toh ek alag cheez hai.
00:37:48 Lekin uske upar intihai kadam uthana,
00:37:50 aur jis tarah ke log wahan par kanoon ki paasdaari na hone ke barabar hai,
00:37:55 toh yeh bada almiya hai.
00:37:56 Toh is par baat kar letein, DPO Mukhtiar Ahmed sahab humare saath wajood hai,
00:37:59 Mukhtiar Ahmed Tanuli sahab, thank you so much for joining us,
00:38:02 Mukhtiar sahab yeh aapke liye bhi bada concerning hoga,
00:38:04 zahir hai ke uss alaake ke rasmo-rawaj, baaki saari cheezein apni jaga hai,
00:38:07 lekin rule of law bhi toh koi cheezein hai.
00:38:09 Aur main wohi relate kar raha tha, ke mujhe 2012 ka incident yaad aagaya,
00:38:13 ke wo abhi, zahir hai ke aap sabki yaaddaashton mein taaza hi hai ek tarah se,
00:38:17 aur phir yeh waqia ho jaana.
00:38:19 Haan bilkul yeh badkismati hai, is alaake ki.
00:38:23 Toh yeh waqia yeh star ho gaya,
00:38:25 ki 24 tarah yeh waqia urul maa hai,
00:38:29 usse do teen din pehle, social media,
00:38:32 do bachcheon aur do bachcheon ki tasbeeren viral hui hain.
00:38:37 Chuki woh edit thi, woh fact woh ID se hui.
00:38:41 Toh alal sobhar jumme wale din, 24 kareeb ko,
00:38:45 yeh unmein se ek bachche ka murder ho gaya.
00:38:48 Iski itlaat jab humein mili toh,
00:38:51 main mere saath mera SDP ho, SHO,
00:38:54 foran hum udhar mauka pe pohunchein, chuki remote area hai,
00:38:57 hilly area hai, track ki iske rahe jeet reh gaya.
00:39:01 Toh ja kata ponch din humare do teen gante lag gaye,
00:39:04 uthar poch ke humne usse bachche ki jo,
00:39:07 jiska murder hua tha,
00:39:09 uski dead body humne woh apne kameel mili,
00:39:12 post-mortem ke liye bejwaayi.
00:39:14 Aur jo bachche zinda thi,
00:39:16 usko humne rescue kiya, court me pesh ki,
00:39:19 judge sahab ne uske wale se bail bond liya,
00:39:22 30 lakh ka.
00:39:24 Toh usse bachche ki 26 tarah ko shadi de thi,
00:39:28 apne cousin ke saath.
00:39:30 Toh jab woh wapas waalat ke saath hai,
00:39:33 26 tarah ko uski shadi ho gayi,
00:39:35 isne hum investigation kar rahe the,
00:39:38 toh jisme chika murder hua uska waalat hai,
00:39:41 Arsala, usko humne arrest kar diya.
00:39:44 Chuki miss concept yeh hai ki,
00:39:47 media pe bhi aaya raha hai ki,
00:39:49 ki jirga hua, jirga ke through yeh bhaake ho gaya.
00:39:52 Aisa chukis tarah ka koi jirga nahi tha,
00:39:55 Paustan chuki, is tarah ke area,
00:39:57 isme agar do bandar beht ki baat karein,
00:39:59 usse bhi jirga ke tha nahi.
00:40:01 10 baith ki baat karein, wo bhi jirga hota hai,
00:40:03 100 baith ki baat karein, wo bhi jirga hota hai.
00:40:05 Agar is tarah ka koi bada jirga hota hai,
00:40:07 Usme...
00:40:08 Kitne logon ne yeh tay kiya,
00:40:10 ki yeh ji,
00:40:11 maut ke haqdaar hai.
00:40:13 Doosre,
00:40:14 deepfake toh alap hona,
00:40:15 lekin woh jo Hishfaq ne 2012 ki video ka hawala diya tha,
00:40:18 woh bachchein hain baithi,
00:40:19 bas khush ho rahi thi,
00:40:21 dance bhi woh aisa proper koi dance nahi tha,
00:40:23 uspe unhe katil kar diya gaya tha,
00:40:25 toh madam...
00:40:27 Madam, me clear karta hu,
00:40:29 agar is tarah ka koi bada jirga hota hai,
00:40:31 toh usme dono bachchein ko maar dete,
00:40:33 isme srf ek bachchein ka murder hua hai,
00:40:35 woh uske family member,
00:40:37 walat, uske chacha,
00:40:39 aur jo kareebi do teen bande the,
00:40:41 unhone apne ghar me baith ke yeh faisla kiya,
00:40:43 aur jaldi me yeh kadam utha diya.
00:40:45 Doosri bachchein ke walat jab pohnche,
00:40:47 unhone ko amne brief kiya,
00:40:48 yeh cheez hai, yeh cheez hai,
00:40:49 woh isi cheez ko samang liye,
00:40:51 aur unhe deh proper,
00:40:52 26 tarikh ko us bachche ki rukhsati bhi kar di,
00:40:55 aur kal,
00:40:57 parso, parso me dubara gaya tha,
00:40:59 us bachche ko bhi mil ke aaye hu,
00:41:01 us dhoola miyan ko bhi mil ke aaye hu,
00:41:02 uske sosar ko bhi,
00:41:04 poori community se mene baat bhi kiye.
00:41:06 Yeh srf khayal ki cheekhega,
00:41:08 Mukhtiar sahib, kyunke yeh toh,
00:41:09 aapko pata hai,
00:41:10 2012 mein bhi hum keh rahe the,
00:41:11 ke ladki change ho gayi,
00:41:12 aur woh us maamle ko,
00:41:14 jis shaks ne uthaya tha,
00:41:15 Afzal Kohistani ne,
00:41:16 aapko yaad hai,
00:41:17 2019 mein usko bhi murder kar diya gaya tha,
00:41:19 wohi mainstream media mein,
00:41:20 attention pe leke aaya tha,
00:41:21 toh yeh bada...
00:41:22 Woh toh,
00:41:23 woh toh iskar hua tha,
00:41:24 ki woh bachche ko murder ho gaya,
00:41:25 woh unko dafna diya,
00:41:27 uske kaafi lafza ke baad,
00:41:28 woh cheez saamne aayi tha,
00:41:30 kyunki yeh toh bar-bar karwaayi ho gaya,
00:41:31 humne us bachche ko rescue karke,
00:41:32 court me pesh kiya,
00:41:34 court me uski identification bhi,
00:41:35 bakaida judge sahib ke saamne,
00:41:37 kuch tarakh issue nahi hai.
00:41:39 Toh yeh batayi,
00:41:40 Kohistan mein pehle bhi,
00:41:41 yeh baakiya hua,
00:41:42 yeh bhi iski aap baja kya samajh rahe hain,
00:41:47 aur is waqe ki baad,
00:41:48 jab aap parents ko,
00:41:49 ya jo bhi isse related mutaala ka shag sa,
00:41:50 jisne murder kiya,
00:41:51 katal kiya,
00:41:52 intihai step uthaya,
00:41:53 unke kya khayalat hote hain,
00:41:55 jab woh yeh apne,
00:41:56 kete hain na,
00:41:57 ghusay ka azaad kar chuke hote hain,
00:41:58 kisi ko maat chuke hote hain,
00:41:59 kyunki woh baap toh tha?
00:42:01 Dalkal madam,
00:42:02 kalbh media ki kuch team hai,
00:42:03 idhar moka pe bhi aayi hain,
00:42:04 us gaon tak gayi hain,
00:42:05 logon ke interview bhi bhi hain,
00:42:06 aur poore area ke log is cheez ko condemn kar rahe hain,
00:42:11 ki yeh waqe acha nahi hua,
00:42:12 toh madam iss tarah hai,
00:42:13 ke aaj se koi 10 saal,
00:42:14 12 saal pehle,
00:42:15 yeh cheez boh zyada thi,
00:42:16 honor killing jisse kehte hain,
00:42:17 aur honor killing ko jis jurum bhi nahi samajh dete,
00:42:18 is tarah hota tha,
00:42:19 ki kisi beti katal hoti,
00:42:20 woh dusre mazhe pe FIR kar deta,
00:42:21 fir uske baad,
00:42:22 woh apasne rajne ma kar deta,
00:42:23 aur baar rah jaate,
00:42:24 abhi hum iss tarah kar rahe hain,
00:42:25 ki abhi hum state,
00:42:26 government,
00:42:27 matlab,
00:42:28 matlab,
00:42:29 mera aise choice ka mazhi hai,
00:42:36 us cheez ko hum bilkul khatam hi kar rahe hain,
00:42:40 ki kal compromise ho jaate hain,
00:42:41 let's see kya hota hai,
00:42:42 thank you so much,
00:42:43 DPO sab aap humare saath maujood hai,
00:42:44 hum aapse updates rehte rehenge,
00:42:45 aage bhi chalte hain,
00:42:46 break lete hain,
00:42:47 break ke baad aate hain,
00:42:48 Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim,
00:43:11 Assalam o Alaikum,
00:43:12 Baakhabar,
00:43:13 ki aapkar kheir magdam hai,
00:43:14 ummeed hai ki aap log theek thaak hunge,
00:43:15 aur humare program se judo honge,
00:43:16 9 se 10 baje tak humara aapse saath raha,
00:43:17 10 se 11 bhi inshaAllah aapse saath hoga,
00:43:18 darmian mein headline break tha,
00:43:19 aur us break se pehle hum baat kare the,
00:43:20 Kohistan mein ek aur pesh aane wale incident ke hawale se,
00:43:21 ki jahan par jali tasaweer,
00:43:22 deep fake ke zariye,
00:43:23 edited tasaweer,
00:43:24 use karke,
00:43:25 ek larki ko badnaam karne ki poshis ki bhi,
00:43:26 deep fake mein,
00:43:27 photo edit karna chalein,
00:43:28 log isko samajh lete hain,
00:43:29 lekin jab video aapki deep fake mein aajaye,
00:43:53 toh aap log iska shikar ho raha hai,
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