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00:00 Assalamu alaikum. Hello and welcome to World Cup special transmission powered by Spark smartphone Foodpanda and presented by Sunsilk.
00:07 I'm your host, Najeeb Ulhasnain.
00:09 Australia has won yesterday and will play against India on Sunday.
00:15 The big final. Yes, it will be a very exciting and explosive final.
00:19 India is unbeaten so far and is showing a great game.
00:25 If we talk about Australia, we always say that in the knockout stage, a different team comes forward in the ICC events.
00:33 A team comes like a monster and makes a lot of noise.
00:38 So this final will be very exciting.
00:40 If we talk about South Africa, it will be the same as the fifth semi-final and the fifth defeat.
00:47 It would be wrong to say that the Chokers are unbeaten in yesterday's match, but because of yesterday's match, they were unable to remove the Chokers tag from them.
00:56 I have with me my panel, Basit Ali, Azhar Ali, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Jatt and Shahid Hashmi will also join us.
01:04 Assalamu alaikum, welcome to the show.
01:05 Walaikum Assalam.
01:07 Happy Friday.
01:08 Happy Friday to you too.
01:09 Today is the day of the World Cup and tomorrow is the rest day.
01:12 So there will be some talks about yesterday's match and Pakistan cricket.
01:17 So first of all, Basit, I would like to ask you about yesterday's match.
01:20 You said in the beginning that you cannot call South Africa the Chokers, but the catches that they have dropped, there has been a mental block somewhere.
01:29 That they could have come close by winning or maybe they could have won this match if the fielding was good.
01:34 Najeeb, the fielding has been very bad in this entire tournament.
01:38 Especially the catches were dropped a lot.
01:40 What is the reason? Is it the problem of the lights? Or is it the problem of the people sitting there?
01:45 That is the problem. We are sitting here and we don't know. But all the teams have dropped the catches.
01:50 And from such teams that you don't expect.
01:52 Especially New Zealand, South Africa, Australia, India have also dropped the catches.
01:57 So those catches that were dropped, plus the two catches that the wicketkeeper has dropped,
02:02 it was his last World Cup and he performed so well.
02:06 Great server for South Africa.
02:09 But I think I didn't like the captaincy more than the catches.
02:15 I am sorry to say that Tamba Bhai, who made a 6 over sardine,
02:20 he should give credit to South Africa for making such a comeback.
02:25 His spinners dominated.
02:29 Actually, we were talking about this yesterday from the evening itself.
02:33 That there will be a problem with the spin, there will be a turn later, there can be a problem.
02:39 When fast bowlers like Tamba Bhai played, the game was out of hand in 14 overs.
02:44 They knew that when the spinners will come, Australia understood this,
02:48 that when the spinners come, we will have a problem. So make as many runs as you can now.
02:52 Was this the approach?
02:53 Yes, exactly the way both the openers played.
02:55 The sooner we play, the more difficult it will be for us later.
03:04 So they came with a plan that they will play attacking cricket against fast bowlers.
03:08 And they did it and it was successful.
03:10 As far as the catches are concerned, there was one catch that they should have caught.
03:15 The rest of the catches were very difficult.
03:17 The last catch on the inside edge was not that easy.
03:21 Because most of the inside edges are very difficult to catch.
03:24 So all the other catches were very difficult.
03:26 So these catches, they happen.
03:30 And you expect to catch them from South Africa.
03:33 Yes, it is obvious that it is not catchable.
03:36 But chances are they get caught.
03:39 The catch in the slip was very fast.
03:42 If it does not get caught in the right hand, it is very difficult to catch.
03:46 But I will definitely talk about the captaincy later.
03:49 Because the way they attacked, they should have caught the spinner from the left hand.
03:57 Because they have to assess their plan.
04:00 They have to counter their plan.
04:02 And in these conditions, spinners are more difficult.
04:05 And your best spinner, who is number one in the ICC ranking,
04:09 you got him down in the 15th over.
04:11 When you had already scored half a run.
04:15 So I think they made a mistake there.
04:19 The most impactful bowlers there, they played very late.
04:22 But still, the match was almost in their hands.
04:25 I think if the captaincy was better,
04:27 if they had more chances,
04:29 if they had caught one more of these catches,
04:31 I think the deep extra cover catch on the point,
04:35 which was cut,
04:36 that is definitely an easy catch on their standard.
04:40 So I think they were left there.
04:42 Otherwise, on this pitch, they had a shot of 115-120 runs.
04:47 But they could have defended in this total as well.
04:50 They could have, and they did it in the first inning.
04:52 A lot of people were expecting from Glenn Maxwell
04:55 that he would play another amazing inning like this,
04:59 when the difficulty was increasing.
05:01 Kamran, first of all, it was a great match.
05:06 The thing you were saying in the beginning,
05:08 that there is a difference of 40-50 runs.
05:10 Does that matter at the end?
05:12 I think if it was 40-50,
05:14 the Australian team would have been out of the game a long time ago.
05:18 There was a difference of only 25-30 runs.
05:20 And that difference was when Hendrick Classic was out.
05:24 I think that was what took the South African team back on their feet.
05:28 But it was a good effort.
05:30 And the way Miller batted, the way he scored a hundred,
05:33 he scored a great hundred, he calculated a lot,
05:35 he kept playing and kept playing till the end.
05:37 I think that's why he scored so many.
05:40 The first four were out,
05:42 the short flexion was very bad.
05:44 Sometimes you get difficult conditions.
05:46 You are a specialist, so you should know how to survive.
05:49 We have seen in such conditions,
05:51 India is very fun to play.
05:53 A batsman scores a long shot.
05:56 So that's what we saw today,
05:58 that they were playing in the same flow.
06:00 They didn't play according to the pitch,
06:02 the pitch they were demanding.
06:04 But if you look at the first six overs,
06:07 if you score 60 runs, if you chase 212,
06:10 then you come out of the match.
06:12 But Keshav Maraj brought it back into the game.
06:15 After that, Kotsi bowled very well.
06:18 He bowled very well and he put a lot of effort.
06:20 And I don't think that Chokki,
06:22 under pressure, all the fielding,
06:24 all the teams were in a bad state.
06:26 But South Africa's standard is not that,
06:29 even if it is difficult, but they make it very easy,
06:31 because of their fielding.
06:33 But if they score 20-25 runs...
06:35 But this is a good team, they have a good future.
06:38 Very good future and we should give credit.
06:40 Like you talked about the captain,
06:42 South African captain,
06:44 on the other hand, Kameez did a good captaincy.
06:46 He saw that he didn't get the ball from Zampa,
06:48 he put it on Travis Head,
06:50 took two wickets.
06:51 So he did a smart captaincy.
06:53 And then in batting, you see,
06:55 like Tael, Stark and Kameez,
06:57 they have scored 14 and 16 runs.
06:59 How important runs they have.
07:01 And the 38-29 balls they have played,
07:03 that is very important.
07:05 It was a very important time,
07:07 they have survived and scored runs.
07:09 So this is the thing that is lagging in our team,
07:11 in the team's tail.
07:13 You three didn't talk about Travis Head,
07:15 he is enjoying in India.
07:17 I mean, in batting and on the balls,
07:19 he was surprised himself.
07:21 Basit Bhai, I will start with you.
07:23 Travis Head's performance.
07:25 I think in batting, he did a very good batting.
07:27 But the way he bowled two outs,
07:29 that was crucial.
07:31 That was a game changer.
07:33 South Africa was getting back on their feet.
07:35 Yes, they were back on their feet.
07:37 Kameez has talked about Kailasan,
07:39 I think he played relaxed.
07:41 Lack of concentration.
07:43 If that partnership was of 30-40 runs,
07:45 we would have blown South Africa.
07:47 Travis Head,
07:49 he comes out of injury,
07:51 comes back, does a great 100,
07:53 with small performances.
07:55 Tomorrow, here, again a great performance.
07:57 He has his own way of playing.
07:59 And yesterday,
08:01 he played extra against the fast bowlers.
08:03 He knew that spinners will come,
08:05 he will be in trouble.
08:07 Because against spinners,
08:09 it is difficult.
08:11 He had targeted,
08:13 you will see the way he played the shot,
08:15 normally he plays attacking,
08:17 but the way he was hitting the shots,
08:19 he knew that this is his time,
08:21 this is my 25-30 ball,
08:23 the impact I will put in,
08:25 it will be easy for him and for him.
08:27 I think, he played smart cricket,
08:29 like Kameez said,
08:31 smart changes in bowling,
08:33 he had a little momentum.
08:35 I think, all in all,
08:37 Australia has always caught up
08:39 with the momentum,
08:41 they are taking good decisions,
08:43 everything is with them.
08:45 Like the talk about tail,
08:47 I think the biggest thing is clarity.
08:49 They had a clear plan that
08:51 they will not take risks,
08:53 Maxwell and his partnership,
08:55 Cummins' partnership,
08:57 Cummins had decided,
08:59 he had to hit a new shot,
09:01 he did the same from clarity to end,
09:03 he made 12 runs in 68 balls.
09:05 I think clarity is very important,
09:07 you can't say that 3 balls are dodged,
09:09 you just hit from the plant.
09:11 I think tail-enders,
09:13 we won't call them tail-enders
09:15 because they make 25-30 runs
09:17 in every 2nd, 3rd, 9th.
09:19 Kamran, do you want to add anything?
09:21 I think clarity is because
09:23 the total was not that big,
09:25 if it was 240 or 250,
09:27 then they had to take risks,
09:29 the balls were too much,
09:31 the runs were less,
09:33 it was very important for them
09:35 to play there, to rotate the strike,
09:37 which they have shown in maturity.
09:39 In every match, we have seen
09:41 that he is coming from the bottom
09:43 and sometimes zamping, sometimes
09:45 coming, then it is a good thing for their team.
09:47 Shoaib, your favourite team is out,
09:49 what is your second favourite team?
09:51 Yes, it is like that.
09:53 Whoever made a mistake,
09:55 will have to take their name.
09:57 Of course, they were shocked,
09:59 but they made the match as interesting as possible.
10:01 They were shocked, but they didn't
10:03 regret it much, they fought.
10:05 The same thing that in 6 overs,
10:07 there were 60, and if you take the match
10:09 till the end, then it is a
10:11 commendable thing.
10:13 You see, the way they were,
10:15 in the beginning, the wicket was a monster,
10:17 Australia took it, but despite that,
10:19 they made so many runs, then after 60 runs,
10:21 they survived so much,
10:23 so no matter how much you praise,
10:25 the future is theirs, no problem,
10:27 if they don't win the World Cup,
10:29 they will be a strong candidate for the Champions Trophy,
10:31 that they can win the Champions Trophy.
10:33 They have told that they have everything.
10:35 And now,
10:37 I will tell you, this will be a very dangerous
10:39 team for T20 World Cup.
10:41 I am talking about the way Jenson,
10:43 Codsey, these fast bowlers,
10:45 the captain has also changed,
10:47 so that is why,
10:49 I am not talking about T20,
10:51 I am talking about the 50 overs,
10:53 the captain of T20,
10:55 he played in the last series,
10:57 but he was dropped later,
10:59 because he takes a lot of time.
11:01 So, anyways, Shahid Ashmi
11:03 is with us, let's talk to him too,
11:05 Shahid, South Africa
11:07 lost again, what will you say?
11:09 You see, the team of South Africa
11:13 and the captain of South Africa
11:15 fought in this small total,
11:17 and they dropped 7 wickets
11:19 of Australia,
11:21 and they needed 24-25 runs
11:23 when,
11:25 on the gain of Makram,
11:27 Pat Cummins' catch,
11:29 was dropped by Quinton De Kock,
11:31 so that was a very crucial moment,
11:33 if Quinton De Kock had caught there,
11:35 then South Africa would have won,
11:37 but they are having
11:39 problems with big matches,
11:41 they didn't score a big goal,
11:43 if the score was 250,
11:45 then the way the captain fought,
11:47 tried to take wickets,
11:49 kept an attacking field,
11:51 their bowlers did a lot of attacking bowling,
11:53 and Rabada's injury,
11:55 they had selected the last spell for him,
11:57 but Rabada got injured,
11:59 of the hamstring,
12:01 and he was walking in the field,
12:03 and then he went out of the field,
12:05 so that was a very crucial loss
12:07 for South Africa.
12:09 Shahid, you are going to watch the final,
12:11 so tell us,
12:13 how are you watching,
12:15 how will this match be between India and Australia?
12:17 India's final
12:19 is going to be very exciting,
12:21 India's team has momentum, confidence,
12:23 they know their grounds,
12:25 what length they have to bowl,
12:27 they know their ground,
12:29 when to hit the six,
12:31 so they are looking very confident,
12:33 but Australia's team is still Australia's team,
12:35 I remember in 2003,
12:37 when they defeated India in the final,
12:39 they played like this in the 1999 tournament,
12:41 they lost one or two matches in the beginning,
12:43 they lost the group match,
12:45 especially from Pakistan,
12:47 and then they came back,
12:49 in the 1999 world cup,
12:51 and then in the final,
12:53 after a one sided match,
12:55 they defeated Pakistan,
12:57 I hope it's not a one sided final,
12:59 because India's team is playing very well,
13:01 Australia's team is playing very well,
13:03 now let's see what kind of pitch Australia gets in Ahmedabad,
13:05 Yes, absolutely,
13:07 Shahid will tell us about the pitch,
13:09 I want to show you a stat,
13:11 ICC events since 2003,
13:13 India's performance,
13:15 and Australia's performance,
13:17 first India,
13:19 and this will come on your screen,
13:21 ICC world cup 2003 runner up,
13:23 ICC T20 world cup,
13:25 2007 winner,
13:27 ICC world cup 2011 winner,
13:29 Champions trophy 2013 winner,
13:31 in 2014,
13:33 runner up,
13:35 and ICC champions trophy 2017,
13:37 runner up,
13:39 test championship runner up,
13:41 and this time final,
13:43 if you compare it with Australia,
13:45 India's record is also very good,
13:47 in the last 20 years,
13:49 Basit bhai,
13:51 Najeeb, the biggest thing is,
13:53 you won the 2011 world cup,
13:55 this is also happening in India,
13:57 the biggest advantage is this,
13:59 they won't play with 11 boys,
14:01 they will play with 130,000 people,
14:03 the Indian people,
14:05 they put a lot of pressure,
14:07 so in 2019 England won,
14:09 in 2015 Australia won,
14:11 in Australia,
14:13 everyone has an advantage of home condition,
14:15 you see in England and Australia,
14:17 there is not much noise,
14:19 which is there,
14:21 if there is a choker in Australia,
14:23 against Australia, there is clapping,
14:25 they enjoy cricket,
14:27 here there is no such system,
14:29 they get worried,
14:31 as soon as India's bowler,
14:33 or batsman chokes,
14:35 you see the noise,
14:37 that noise puts pressure on the opponent team,
14:39 but the counter argument is,
14:41 that this kind of crowd,
14:43 how much pressure is there on your team,
14:45 you have to perform,
14:47 so many people,
14:49 the blue sea is backing you,
14:51 if your performance is getting bad,
14:53 is there pressure for that also,
14:55 the most important team is,
14:57 the home ground is of India,
14:59 but the crowd is supporting India,
15:01 but if the momentum,
15:03 goes with India,
15:05 it will be very difficult,
15:07 but this counter happens,
15:09 when you put pressure on the home team,
15:11 when you put pressure,
15:13 then the crowd,
15:15 the silence,
15:17 it becomes a deal in your hand,
15:19 I think it is very important,
15:21 to gain that momentum for Australia,
15:23 if it starts flowing in the sea of people,
15:25 then it will be difficult,
15:27 yes, it is like that,
15:29 so what are you thinking about this final,
15:31 this is ICC,
15:33 Australia's 2003,
15:35 we have to tell about Australia also,
15:37 but Australia,
15:39 we all remember,
15:41 the events of Australia,
15:43 so obviously 2003, 2006, 2007,
15:45 they won back to back,
15:47 then after that,
15:49 2009, 2010,
15:51 T20, runner up in world cup,
15:53 then again in 2015,
15:55 they won world cup,
15:57 then T20 world cup in 2021,
15:59 won ICC test championship,
16:01 and now again in final,
16:03 so they,
16:05 we missed 2006 championship,
16:07 now you tell,
16:09 what a great performance of Australia,
16:11 and what we say,
16:13 in ICC events,
16:15 specially in knockout,
16:17 it becomes something else,
16:19 see, in ICC,
16:21 they show a different team,
16:23 they come back,
16:25 come back strongly,
16:27 and qualify for final,
16:29 after losing 2 matches,
16:31 it didn't look like Australian team,
16:33 will finish in top 4,
16:35 but they came back,
16:37 because of their mentally strong skill,
16:39 and gave good performance,
16:41 and senior players stood out,
16:43 took responsibility on themselves,
16:45 and won the match,
16:47 so it shows how mentally strong team they are,
16:49 no doubt Australia has a big achievement in ICC,
16:51 see, in 2011,
16:53 with India,
16:55 they lost quarter final in Ahmedabad,
16:57 so the benefit of Hong condition,
16:59 definitely India has,
17:01 and they have lost,
17:03 that too in mind,
17:05 that we are losing 2011 match,
17:07 see, when Australia comes like this,
17:09 till final,
17:11 they don't look at anyone,
17:13 they don't stop,
17:15 they have this class,
17:17 they don't look at other teams,
17:19 but see,
17:21 India is also playing well,
17:23 no doubt,
17:25 just for the sake of it,
17:27 we are comparing 2003 to now,
17:29 they won 99,
17:31 and played final of 1996,
17:33 so Australia is a very strong team,
17:35 see,
17:37 you have to agree,
17:39 sports culture will be promoted,
17:41 and the way they take it to grass root level,
17:43 they start from there,
17:45 we think grass root is only club cricket,
17:47 actually their grass root is,
17:49 when kid enters school,
17:51 they start working,
17:53 then they get competition,
17:55 then they get training,
17:57 due to competition,
17:59 they become mentally strong,
18:01 and then due to training,
18:03 their biomechanics become strong,
18:05 so you see,
18:07 as they move ahead,
18:09 as matches go on,
18:11 their body response,
18:13 so I think,
18:15 although there are 4-5 teams,
18:17 all the ICC events,
18:19 you see top teams only,
18:21 they will be in final,
18:23 semi final, quarter final,
18:25 but they miss this,
18:27 Australia always takes advantage of this,
18:29 Kamran uncle was also talking about New Zealand,
18:31 they played 8 knockouts,
18:33 but they have played only 1 final,
18:35 they never reached final,
18:37 no, no, before this,
18:39 I am saying that they reached 1 final,
18:41 they wanted to reach final,
18:43 they played final in 2019,
18:45 and then final in 2015,
18:47 they played 2 times,
18:49 not more than that,
18:51 so they have to take advantage of this,
18:53 if we want,
18:55 India has started this,
18:57 they have made them pro from small cricket,
18:59 in our country,
19:01 all sports are amateur,
19:03 you see top domestic cricketers,
19:05 Sufian Mukim,
19:07 he is not to be treated,
19:09 he has been treated,
19:11 he is roaming around,
19:13 he is not to be treated,
19:15 PCP has sent him to Dubai,
19:17 they have given him 5 lakhs,
19:19 but see,
19:21 their process starts from school cricket,
19:23 our process starts after playing in Pakistan,
19:25 that's true,
19:27 sports culture,
19:29 I am saying this,
19:31 all those who have come from outside,
19:33 who have talked about NCA,
19:35 they don't allow,
19:37 they have started it,
19:39 they have started it on their own,
19:41 that's why this is the situation,
19:43 they have come again,
19:45 they must have started the same thing,
19:47 so it will not be beneficial,
19:49 it will be harmful.
19:51 Let's take a break,
19:53 we will continue the discussion,
19:55 glad to have you back once again,
19:57 to our special transmission,
19:59 we are talking about world cup,
20:01 viewers should update you,
20:03 about Australia tour,
20:05 the announcement will be made,
20:07 by next week,
20:09 many things are not final,
20:11 obviously the announcement,
20:13 will be made by the chief selector,
20:15 but everyone is saying,
20:17 that next chief selector,
20:19 will be Wahab Riaz,
20:21 let's talk about the team director,
20:23 earlier this was not posted,
20:25 now it is given to Muhammad Hafeez,
20:27 now it is obvious,
20:29 that he will be the head coach,
20:31 and obviously,
20:33 he will be the batting coach,
20:35 but he has not done level 2,
20:37 so in one day,
20:39 the team director,
20:41 head coach and batting coach,
20:43 have changed so much,
20:45 when he was made the head coach,
20:47 he had done so many levels,
20:49 he was made to do it,
20:51 he should have been made to do it,
20:53 let's not talk about the assignments,
20:55 the thing is,
20:57 international experience matters,
20:59 we always say,
21:01 that you ignore the international experience,
21:03 now he has been made the team director,
21:05 he will do the additional responsibilities,
21:07 because the tour is on his head,
21:09 you might see the head coach,
21:11 and the team director,
21:13 has to decide all the directions,
21:15 of Pakistan's cricket,
21:17 as I understand,
21:19 so when the head coach comes,
21:21 he will decide the rest of the directions,
21:23 that I agree,
21:25 that you are making it temporary,
21:27 it is a very important tour,
21:29 and for that,
21:31 somebody without coaching experience,
21:33 I am very excited to be the director,
21:35 I think he can give a good direction,
21:37 I can say that,
21:39 how much experience did Mizwaulag have,
21:41 when you made Babar Adam the captain,
21:43 the thing is,
21:45 the test players,
21:47 are not in our country,
21:49 in Australia, England, South Africa,
21:51 they are given level 2,
21:53 any test player,
21:55 even if he has played only one test match,
21:57 the level 2 test players,
21:59 are given in England,
22:01 you have to pay for that,
22:03 but you do courses for coaching,
22:05 yes, we do,
22:07 we have it here also,
22:09 so the experience,
22:11 I think,
22:13 that is why you are talking about the experience,
22:15 Shahid sir is with us,
22:17 we will talk to him,
22:19 Shahid sir, you will take the responsibility,
22:21 of the head coach,
22:23 what do you say about this?
22:25 Hafeez will be the head coach,
22:27 and team director,
22:29 he has played only one role,
22:31 this is what we know,
22:33 Hafeez knows modern day cricket,
22:35 he has good knowledge about the game,
22:37 but the last T20,
22:39 the T20 World Cup 2021,
22:41 the semifinal of Australia,
22:43 that was his last match,
22:45 it was not long,
22:47 he retired 2 years ago,
22:49 or cricket is called Khairabad,
22:51 he should have had some experience,
22:53 in 2019,
22:55 we made Mizba ul Haq as the head coach,
22:57 Mizba ul Haq had played more cricket,
22:59 Mizba ul Haq had also coached
23:01 Islamabad United,
23:03 if Hafeez had spent
23:05 a year in domestic cricket,
23:07 it would have been better,
23:09 good luck to Hafeez,
23:11 good luck to Pakistan cricket team,
23:13 but the tour of Australia will be difficult,
23:15 for Shahan Masood,
23:17 for Hafeez,
23:19 and for the other staff,
23:21 because the tour of Australia
23:23 is never easy for Pakistan,
23:25 As Shahid said,
23:27 if he had done level 2,
23:29 it would have been great,
23:31 or he would have had some experience,
23:33 do you agree with this?
23:35 Personally,
23:37 I would have tried to start
23:39 from the bottom,
23:41 you need a temperament,
23:43 because you are playing,
23:45 you have control,
23:47 when you are not playing,
23:49 you are making strategies,
23:51 you have to develop the temperament,
23:53 I am sure Hafeez has a lot of knowledge,
23:55 he is a captain,
23:57 I think coaching is not needed here,
23:59 strategy is needed,
24:01 I am sure in the matter of strategy,
24:03 Hafeez is very much experienced,
24:05 but I was just saying,
24:07 you need a temperament as a coach,
24:09 for that you need a little experience,
24:11 I am sure,
24:13 he should be successful,
24:15 if his tenure is only for this,
24:17 then it is for this,
24:19 otherwise for a long term,
24:21 but as a person,
24:23 I have seen in the past,
24:25 handling the temperament,
24:27 the different pressures,
24:29 the plays,
24:31 the response,
24:33 managing it,
24:35 we know about cricket,
24:37 but the management,
24:39 the team management,
24:41 planning the sessions,
24:43 it is not a big deal,
24:45 you have seen it,
24:47 you know how the routines work,
24:49 it is not a big deal,
24:51 but when there is pressure,
24:53 when things are not going well,
24:55 then the temperament is tested,
24:57 then your things come out,
24:59 you need a little experience,
25:01 Kamran,
25:03 the issue here is,
25:05 your captain is new,
25:07 the tour is very tough,
25:09 your head coach is also new,
25:11 what do you say on this,
25:13 the whole recipe is a little dangerous,
25:15 see, what you said,
25:17 level 2 has been done,
25:19 how will he handle the team,
25:21 I have no doubt about it,
25:23 Hafeez's maturity,
25:25 his cricket brain is very good,
25:27 and level 2 is necessary,
25:29 he has played so much international cricket,
25:31 he has toured Australia,
25:33 there is only one thing,
25:35 what can he motivate mentally,
25:37 what can he give as a game plan,
25:39 he knows everything,
25:41 I don't think he will need it,
25:43 and the boys have all the experience,
25:45 the test team is settled,
25:47 only the captain has changed,
25:49 so the new captain,
25:51 he has all the ability in his captaincy,
25:53 he just has to gain his form,
25:55 then all those things will be set,
25:57 but the test players,
25:59 like Basit Bhai said,
26:01 it is the same in India,
26:03 that you make the test players level 2,
26:05 give them,
26:07 and then they will be able to play,
26:09 so in India,
26:11 there were people
26:13 who had come to NCA
26:15 who had put this condition,
26:17 for international players,
26:19 there were so many legends in the past,
26:21 level 2 is not important,
26:23 they will give you the experience,
26:25 but you have to attend the course,
26:27 you should attend the course,
26:29 but the time is less,
26:31 the team's performance is not good,
26:33 people's trust is not good,
26:35 and the team is not good,
26:37 so you have to bring back
26:39 people's trust on Pakistan's cricket,
26:41 so that good management comes,
26:43 and perform well,
26:45 the thing is,
26:47 all the international cricket
26:49 that Mohammad Hafeez has played,
26:51 he has all these experiences,
26:53 if you talk about levels,
26:55 in Pakistan,
26:57 in 3 days,
26:59 he has been made to play 2 levels,
27:01 as far as I remember,
27:03 Shahid Bhai said,
27:05 I remember,
27:07 the same way,
27:09 the captains of Pakistan
27:11 also got captains,
27:13 I don't think,
27:15 that Hafeez will have any issue,
27:17 he has played 50+ matches,
27:19 he is a level 2,
27:21 he has been distributed,
27:23 what I am saying,
27:25 not to the test players,
27:27 but to the people who know,
27:29 I am a witness,
27:31 Wahab Riaz has been announced,
27:33 he has been made a member
27:35 of the selection committee,
27:37 and Wahab Riaz said,
27:39 this is a matter of honor for me,
27:41 a few moments ago,
27:43 he was elected,
27:45 you are giving news after watching news,
27:47 a few moments ago,
27:49 Pakistan cricket board has announced,
27:51 and Wahab Riaz said,
27:53 this is a matter of honor,
27:55 the same news has come out,
27:57 Wahab Riaz has been announced,
27:59 as the chief selector,
28:01 he has been made a member,
28:03 this is a matter of honor for him,
28:05 Wahab has his own experience,
28:07 and now,
28:09 I support this,
28:11 I want to take your point,
28:13 that youngsters should come,
28:15 who have recently finished cricket,
28:17 because they know the boys,
28:19 and they understand the new cricket,
28:21 this is a very good decision,
28:23 the professor has come,
28:25 Wahab has come,
28:27 this is a good thing,
28:29 and now,
28:31 what will happen,
28:33 we will lose,
28:35 this is not more than this,
28:37 we won the test in 1995,
28:39 we won a series,
28:41 this is not more than this,
28:43 this is what Mizba ul Haq was told,
28:45 that you step down,
28:47 for this tour, South Africa,
28:49 I said what will happen,
28:51 you will lose,
28:53 Allah has made him win,
28:55 we might win this tour also,
28:57 so from the beginning,
28:59 now the pitches of Australia are not like that,
29:01 which we used to say,
29:03 now it is better,
29:05 Ajji has given a good performance there,
29:07 which level did Mohsin Khan have,
29:09 which level did Javed Miyadat have,
29:11 which level did Inzamam have,
29:13 the experience,
29:15 it is important to have experience,
29:17 I am not saying not to do the level,
29:19 but the experience,
29:21 that counts more,
29:23 experience also counts more,
29:25 if you want to do a programme,
29:27 I will tell you the name of level 2,
29:29 that in mobile,
29:31 this is the answer,
29:33 I think the international teams,
29:35 your specific coaching,
29:37 the main responsibility of the head coach,
29:39 is man management,
29:41 he should do courses,
29:43 he should come,
29:45 he is in level 4,
29:47 but he doesn't come from courses,
29:49 or from playing cricket,
29:51 he comes from the practice,
29:53 he comes from the practice,
29:55 I think Azhar knows very well,
29:57 that no one can understand man management better than Hafeez,
29:59 this is true,
30:01 this is also true,
30:03 I have to give him that,
30:05 I am getting an excitement,
30:07 may God not do that,
30:09 I will tell you later,
30:11 why are you starting the topic,
30:13 you are saying,
30:15 you need permission,
30:17 that there should not be a clash,
30:19 with the players,
30:21 you should do what I have done,
30:23 that is a problem,
30:25 you have to be flexible,
30:27 the coaches who were with me,
30:29 they were not flexible,
30:31 they were in their ego,
30:33 they were not able to get their shirt off,
30:35 but if you come to this level,
30:37 you should definitely experience,
30:39 and this is what I am saying,
30:41 you made Mishpa,
30:43 it was a big backfire,
30:45 so if you go step by step,
30:47 it will be very good,
30:49 it was a time issue,
30:51 it was not a normal situation,
30:53 understand one thing,
30:55 flexibility and compromising,
30:57 both have a big difference,
30:59 Mickey Arthur,
31:01 Grand Red Bun,
31:03 they were compromising,
31:05 they were flexible,
31:07 and the ones who were sticking,
31:09 they also destroyed the team,
31:11 the ones who were compromising,
31:13 they also destroyed,
31:15 so I think Hafeez will not compromise,
31:17 we all wish him best of luck,
31:19 to everyone,
31:21 and one more thing,
31:23 his missed call should be small,
31:25 you explain this during the break,
31:27 we will be right back,
31:29 glad to have you back once again,
31:31 to our special transmission,
31:33 and how are they surprising
31:35 Matthew Hayden's performance
31:37 in Pakistan's World Cup,
31:39 what did he have to say,
31:41 let's show you that,
31:43 I believe some concerns
31:45 over their world class left arm pacer,
31:47 he came in Shaheen,
31:49 and we watched him closely during the Asia Cup,
31:51 a little under done,
31:53 didn't really arrive at this tournament,
31:55 and when he did,
31:57 it was probably too late for Pakistan,
31:59 their spinners Nawaz and Shadab,
32:01 who both were finding it really difficult
32:03 to get 2023,
32:05 firstly to retain their spot,
32:07 which they didn't,
32:09 challenges in and around the actual set up themselves,
32:11 and then to Babur's performances
32:13 as non-captain and captain,
32:15 because he actually had far better numbers
32:17 as a captain, 15+ more,
32:19 shot the gun a little bit early in terms of
32:21 his leadership capabilities,
32:23 dominant player in world cricket,
32:25 a little disappointed,
32:27 a little shocked about the reaction,
32:29 Basit bhai, the way Matthew Hayden
32:31 has summarised it,
32:33 that he had a problem with Naseem not being there,
32:35 Shaheen was not in the form he was in
32:37 in the Asia Cup,
32:39 he was not in the form he was in,
32:41 and he said that he decided to go for Babur
32:43 very early on, because as a captain,
32:45 he had better stats,
32:47 and overall, he also spoke about his spinners,
32:49 that they were struggling for a year,
32:51 so in this world cup,
32:53 Pakistan was not in the form
32:55 that Pakistan should have been,
32:57 so you can't judge the team's performance like that,
32:59 and overall, he also spoke about the structure,
33:01 he said that the main problem
33:03 that Pakistani cricketers are fighting with,
33:05 is the structure being weak.
33:07 - We didn't play one day cricket,
33:09 we didn't play 50 overs,
33:11 we played a lot of T20 cricket,
33:13 in which Matthew Hayden was also there,
33:15 in both the tournaments,
33:17 so I will keep Naseem Shah and Shaheen Shah Afridi
33:19 aside for a while,
33:21 because they are such bowlers,
33:23 that in 50 overs, test matches,
33:25 and T20, they are striking.
33:27 We had a problem
33:29 with Shadab, Nawaz,
33:31 and Haris Rao,
33:33 we had a problem with their bowling,
33:35 so Naseem Shah was removed,
33:37 and Hassan Ali replaced him,
33:39 or you can say Wasim Junior,
33:41 Wasim Junior performed well,
33:43 the biggest problem for us was
33:45 that we had selected T20 players,
33:47 you tell me,
33:49 one day,
33:51 a special player came,
33:53 he also got inducted later,
33:55 first you took T20 performers,
33:57 so if we come in 5th,
33:59 no doubt the performance was not that good,
34:01 so for me it's good that we came in 5th,
34:03 I was afraid that we might not come in 7th.
34:05 Absolutely right.
34:07 Our time in today's program is over,
34:09 we will talk about Pakistan,
34:11 and the big final on Sunday,
34:13 we will meet again tomorrow at 5pm,
34:15 I will take your leave,
34:17 take care, Allah Hafiz.