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(Current Affairs)

Host:
- Shaista Yousuf

Guests:
- Senator Humayun Mohmand PTI
- Mahmood Molvi IPP Sindh
- Barrister Danyal Chaudhry PMLN
- Syed Hassan Murtaza PPP

"PTI Chief ko kaha tha kirdarkashi nahi karen...," PP's Hasan Murtaza on current political situation

Hum Logon Ka Jin Se Vaastaa Para Woh Insaaf Nahi Chahtay Thay, PTI Leader Humayun Mohmand

"Pakistan Ke Tax Payer Ka Paisa Kisi Ki Election Campaign Chalane Ke Liye...," Hasan Murtaza


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00:00 Assalamu Alaikum, I am your host Shaista Yusuf and today is 8th February, elections are
00:17 going on.
00:18 There is a lot of excitement and a lot of tension.
00:21 New alliances have been formed, in fact, are being formed and we will see that new alliances
00:26 will be formed.
00:27 Today, we are seeing new allies and yesterday's allies have become allies today.
00:32 As the time of elections is approaching, the situation is getting more and more interesting.
00:38 What would have happened if Mian Hun had come and Mian Chardin had gone to jail?
00:43 What are the political issues?
00:45 What is the political position of which Jamaat?
00:47 These are all the issues to talk about.
00:49 We have guests with us.
00:50 Let me introduce you.
00:51 We have joined by Senator Humayun Mohammad, the head of the National Movement for Justice
00:55 in Rehna-Mohammad.
00:56 Thank you very much for taking out your time.
00:58 We have also joined by Syed Hassan Murtaza, the head of the Pakistan People's Party.
01:02 Mehmood Maulvi, the head of the Pakistan-Islamic State Party is also with us.
01:06 We have also joined by Barrister Daniyal Chaudhary, who is the head of the Pakistan Muslim League.
01:11 Thank you very much for the time of all the guests.
01:14 Hassan Murtaza, let's start with you.
01:16 A statement came out from Bilawal Bhutto.
01:19 He was saying that the King's Party will be in the same state as it was in 2008.
01:26 Now, Bilawal Sahib, who is the King's Party saying?
01:29 Is it the Pakistan Party or the Muslim League?
01:33 Look, only Bilawal Sahib can tell us who he has called the King's Party.
01:41 And if everyone looks into their own pockets, then the King's Party will also be known who he has called.
01:48 The request is not who Bilawal Sahib has called the King's Party.
01:53 The request is that what is the need for political parties to become the King's Party?
01:58 Whether it is the People's Party or the PMLN, they have seen very difficult circumstances.
02:03 Even with the PMLN, which was happening in different walls,
02:08 they were completely non-democratic attitudes, non-democratic methods,
02:14 they were victimized, there is no doubt about it.
02:18 Even with the People's Party, you saw what has been happening for the past half century,
02:23 there have been extreme educational activities,
02:30 revenge activities, various cases have been made.
02:37 The biggest injustice was that of character assassination.
02:41 When the character assassination of the Pakistan People's Party was taking place,
02:45 we used to tell our friends that this time can come to you too,
02:52 don't do this, no one believed.
02:56 Then the PMLN also saw that the same character assassination started happening to them too.
03:03 The same method, the same way of making them smaller, making their size smaller,
03:08 this became a big issue.
03:11 And then at that time, we used to tell Khan Sahib, both the parties,
03:14 Khan Sahib, you should be alert, politics is not this,
03:17 politics is the name of taking everyone along, give the opposition its place,
03:22 give the Treasury its place, don't do this.
03:26 But Khan Sahib did not believe.
03:28 There came a time when Khan Sahib also saw how the parties are made,
03:35 how they are broken, they are put in a den.
03:39 So we used to expect that Pakistan Muslim League, NUN,
03:43 we have an alliance too, COD was signed with us, everything is in its place.
03:48 We do not demand anywhere that they do not go against their path of becoming PM,
03:55 and to stop the PM of the Pakistan People's Party,
03:59 they do not take steps or do not improve their party.
04:03 We just tell them that our democracy should be systematic,
04:08 we do not need anyone, the people of Pakistan, the democracy,
04:13 we bow to them, they can take whoever they want,
04:17 and the rest should play their role.
04:22 There is so much difference, there is no difference at all.
04:26 If they try to work for their ministry of foreign affairs,
04:30 that we go to Sindh and work, then they have every right,
04:33 they are citizens of Pakistan, they have the representation of Pakistan.
04:37 And the People's Party also has the same thing,
04:40 that if they can come to Punjab and do something,
04:43 or they can do it in other provinces, then there is no restriction.
04:47 We have all these circumstances, we have come to our own people's support,
04:53 we have come to support such forces who have always tried to weaken the democracy,
05:00 why do we strengthen them by fighting among ourselves?
05:03 There are so many things, we have to fight our own elections, we will fight.
05:08 Okay, Mr. Daniyal Chaudhary, Mr. Khursheed Shah was saying,
05:15 you must have heard it, he was saying that if Mr. Mian had not been bailed,
05:20 he would have gone to jail, he would have been in jail for 4 days,
05:23 then his political status would have increased.
05:25 Now he did not do all this, he was bailed, he did not go to jail.
05:28 So by not doing all this, did his political status decrease in your opinion?
05:33 Look, Mr. Khursheed Shah, with all due respect,
05:38 the statement he has given is very unfortunate, he himself is a seasoned politician,
05:44 and who does not know that he left his wife on the deathbed and came to Pakistan with his daughter,
05:53 and to imprison himself in jail, and stayed in jail for more than 1.5 years.
05:57 Mian Nawaz Sharif stayed, Maryam Nawaz Sahiba stayed, and faced the cases,
06:01 and then went out under the law.
06:05 But what would have been the fun if Mr. Bilawal had left his personal politics behind,
06:10 let's talk about Farah Shehzadi and Imran Khan, who brought this country to this point,
06:16 who are the root cause of this disease, who kept making their foundations in Pakistan,
06:22 who increased their 4,520 million, their foundations and their amounts,
06:32 there was no statement on it, nothing is said on it,
06:35 and their own people, who they did politics with, and saved the country, they have been harassed.
06:40 Here today's topic should be how in 2020, they earned 950 million rupees,
06:47 But Mr. Daniel, the sequence of statements is going from both sides,
06:51 if Imran Khan's frontman is giving a statement against Noon League, then Noon League is not behind either.
06:56 Look, Noon League has only one demand on this side,
07:02 and that is, we don't talk much about People's Party,
07:06 our demand is that there should be accountability for those people,
07:11 from Farah Gogi to all those people who came and looted this country with both hands,
07:16 they sent Pakistan to this point, Pakistan reached the point where there was bankruptcy,
07:21 and international media was writing about bankruptcy, and where did they send Pakistan?
07:28 The people who said that we will make you cry, and today they are crying in jail,
07:32 they should be held accountable, and before the election, whatever their decision is,
07:36 it should be revealed, that from where did they earn this money,
07:39 how did their frontmen, from Pirni Sahiba, how did they keep money in the pockets of people,
07:44 how did Shehzad Akbar keep collecting money, how did Murad Syed keep collecting money,
07:49 against these national organizations, against their state, how was this money spent,
07:55 where did this money go, how was this money spent against their people,
07:59 how was the 9th of May attack carried out,
08:01 Pakistan Noon League has only one appeal, that these things should be investigated,
08:06 and if they want justice, then justice should be given to them.
08:10 You are absolutely right, Mr. Daniyal Chaudhary,
08:12 no one has any objection to what you have said and the points you have counted.
08:18 But I have the same question, as Mr. Khursheed Shah said,
08:22 do you think that if Mr. Mian did not go to jail, his political status would have been reduced,
08:27 if he had gone to jail, then maybe the benefits of this would have been seen more in the elections.
08:31 Look, Mr. Mian spent more than a year in jail, his daughter spent more than a year in jail,
08:38 he went to Pakistan on bail, the punishment was suspended,
08:42 now on the request of Mr. Khursheed Shah, he cannot make a case of his own accord and send him to jail,
08:46 but his political status is great, today the most accepted leader in Pakistan is Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
08:53 The most accepted leader in Pakistan,
08:55 No, he also says that the public did not get a good message from him.
08:58 He welcomed Khomeini, thousands, lakhs, crores of people came out,
09:02 closed the whole country, and the leader of that is Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
09:04 The poor man who is fed up with his inflation,
09:07 fed up with unemployment, fed up with his electricity bills,
09:10 he was sitting at home and thinking of himself as a black corner,
09:16 if today is the ray of hope for him, then it is Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
09:19 and people know that God willing, the last hope,
09:21 I tell you, the statements that people are giving,
09:23 it is a matter of hurting the hopes of those people, of being unfair to them,
09:27 because if today, those people of Pakistan are given hope,
09:30 You are saying that the last ray of hope in this country is Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
09:35 and then you will go to the heights of 2017 and stand there.
09:38 Like Mr. Daniyal Chaudhary is saying,
09:40 that if there is a ray of hope in this country, then it is Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
09:44 Sir, please comment on this,
09:45 Secondly, we are seeing that elections are coming up,
09:48 there is a lot of talk, the PPP party is being mentioned,
09:51 the Muslim League is being mentioned,
09:53 somewhere, the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf is being mentioned,
09:55 Sir, in this situation, what is the weightage of the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf party?
09:59 Where is the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf party standing right now?
10:04 In the name of Allah, the most merciful, the most compassionate.
10:06 Look, what was being discussed, Mr. Daniyal,
10:08 if he is talking about the chairman of his party,
10:14 then he is speaking the truth, it is his right to speak.
10:17 And as far as he was talking about the corruption,
10:23 I don't think he was talking about anything wrong.
10:25 Look, every person will consider the chairman of their party
10:29 to be the best person for this country.
10:34 And look, we are talking about the elections,
10:38 the date for the elections, which people are saying,
10:42 the date has not come yet,
10:46 and if Allah wills, it will be in February.
10:49 But the way we are going to throw mud at each other right now,
10:56 I don't think this is appropriate.
10:58 We should talk about the people,
11:01 we should talk about the issues of the people,
11:04 we should talk about inflation,
11:06 we should talk about how we will give progress to the country.
11:10 Look, for three and a half years, the PTI was in power.
11:14 And we should go ahead and give our manifesto
11:17 about what we will take to the people for the elections.
11:20 This is what I am saying to you.
11:23 Look, we have given our manifesto.
11:25 What I am saying is that for three and a half years,
11:28 a party did not even complete 10% of the manifesto.
11:34 This is unfortunate.
11:36 Look, they gave a manifesto that they will give so many lakhs of houses,
11:40 we will give jobs to millions of people.
11:45 They did not make a house on which billions of rupees were deposited.
11:49 They were deposited in the form of a form,
11:52 that if you fill 300 rupees, then after doing billions of rupees,
11:56 they were not given.
11:58 Now after that, they will do 18 months of work.
12:00 This is in front of you all.
12:02 Which road are we going on?
12:04 I would say that we are all political parties.
12:06 So, Mr. Mahmood Gaulvi, these were all unnatural claims.
12:08 Now, the Pakistan party is saying that
12:10 those who use 300 units will get electricity for free.
12:13 Do you think this will be technically possible?
12:15 Or what if the 50,000 houses and 100,000 jobs
12:18 or crores of jobs are deposited?
12:20 Like those claims, is this also a claim?
12:23 No, this will not be a claim.
12:26 I can justify this.
12:28 The reason for this is that in Karachi,
12:31 we are talking to our K.E.S.
12:33 Look, there are mechanisms for this.
12:35 This is not something that we can claim.
12:37 There are mechanisms in the whole of Pakistan.
12:39 What is the mechanism for this?
12:41 I will tell you.
12:42 Look at how much theft is happening.
12:45 If we stop theft,
12:49 then we will give the same theft,
12:51 which is called line losses,
12:53 to those poor people who are less than 300 units.
12:56 Look, let me clear this.
12:58 300 units are not free.
13:00 Those who use less than 300 units in their homes,
13:04 their electricity is free.
13:06 If people misinterpret it,
13:08 that 300 units will be given to every person for free,
13:11 they will not give it.
13:12 Where people are saying that salaries will be 50,000,
13:16 the reason for that is that,
13:18 look, why will it be 50,000?
13:20 If inflation has increased so much,
13:23 the prices of everything have increased,
13:26 then the minimum wages that they are talking about,
13:28 is this normal?
13:29 Even today, I think the minimum wage in Sindh is 32,000.
13:33 We are not talking about something abnormal,
13:35 that we will give this.
13:37 Look, whatever we are talking about,
13:39 people should sit with facts and figures.
13:41 Look, this should happen.
13:43 No matter which party comes into power,
13:46 we will be able to give them the best suggestions,
13:49 that look, we are talking about this country.
13:52 It happens that every party says,
13:54 look, we will come,
13:56 if such claims are made,
13:58 that we will give jobs to millions of people,
14:01 or we will give this and that.
14:04 It is unfortunate that such promises are made,
14:07 which cannot be fulfilled.
14:09 And as far as corruption is concerned,
14:12 what justice was made for you,
14:14 to end corruption,
14:16 to give justice to people.
14:18 Unfortunately, you could not give justice,
14:20 nor could you end corruption.
14:22 You see,
14:24 earlier they used to say,
14:27 that people from PMLN are thieves,
14:30 people from People's Party are thieves,
14:33 I will not talk to them.
14:35 Today, they have made a five-member team,
14:37 we will talk to everyone.
14:39 If at that time,
14:41 when they were in their time,
14:43 they were sitting in Zoom,
14:45 they were proud that they will not talk to anyone,
14:48 they would have come down at that time,
14:50 then today, neither the country would be in this position,
14:53 nor would they be in this position themselves.
14:55 They kept thinking that,
14:57 look, there is no one in this country other than them.
14:59 Look, no man is indispensable in the world.
15:01 Big people came, big people left.
15:03 This is what we have to think about.
15:05 Irfan Siddiqui gave a statement in this regard.
15:07 What did he say? Let's listen to him first.
15:10 One sentence,
15:11 Mian Sahib said that I have called everyone,
15:13 everyone wants to start a new journey.
15:15 One sentence came from a living person,
15:18 that I am also ready to call,
15:20 let's start the journey.
15:22 Without a lawyer's name,
15:24 lawyers are roaming everywhere.
15:26 Without a lawyer's name,
15:28 lawyers are roaming everywhere,
15:30 that is, Imran Khan's lawyers.
15:32 Yes, and they are not ready to own.
15:34 They have made a committee of five people.
15:36 One, their sisters go and meet,
15:38 their wives go and meet,
15:40 their lawyers go and meet.
15:42 If they have received any statement…
15:44 Okay, Humayun Sahib,
15:46 you have interviewed Irfan Siddiqui,
15:48 and Mehmood Malvi Sahib,
15:50 who was saying a while ago that
15:52 the movement was made in the name of justice and accountability,
15:54 but neither was it able to give justice,
15:56 nor was it accountable. What would you say on this?
15:58 Bismillah, I am listening.
16:00 Look, first of all,
16:02 the work of giving justice
16:04 is the work of the courts,
16:06 in the way they are doing it.
16:08 Our attempt was to bring
16:10 people into a system of change.
16:12 Unfortunately,
16:14 the people
16:16 with whom we had
16:18 come into contact,
16:20 they did not want justice,
16:22 they want special favors.
16:24 Now I come to the point
16:26 that these people have objected
16:28 to the five-member committee.
16:30 Look, the five-member committee
16:32 was not formed
16:34 to be associated
16:36 with a political party
16:38 or to adjust
16:40 their seats with a political party.
16:42 The purpose of this five-member committee
16:44 is to discuss
16:46 the problems
16:48 in Pakistan for the future.
16:50 The main problem,
16:52 the democratic problem,
16:54 is free and fair elections,
16:56 which are visible and transparent.
16:58 How can they be?
17:00 We want to sit
17:02 all the political parties
17:04 and tell them that
17:06 since the last 50 years,
17:08 since you started politics,
17:10 no election has been held
17:12 which is called credible.
17:14 So what can we do
17:16 together
17:18 so that people do not observe us?
17:20 But Humayun sahab,
17:22 don't you think it is too late?
17:24 It is useless to cry.
17:26 It is like this,
17:28 it is never too late for the right thing.
17:30 Even during our tenure,
17:32 we tried to take all of them
17:34 and say that
17:36 let's do a free and fair
17:38 and transparent electoral process.
17:40 That's why we made
17:42 the electronic voting machine.
17:44 If these people had seen it,
17:46 they would have understood
17:48 that there is no internet connection
17:50 in the electronic voting machine.
17:52 And the biggest thing
17:54 about it was that
17:56 when you press the button
17:58 of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
18:00 PMLN or PPP,
18:02 a chip comes out
18:04 in which there are the signs
18:06 of that group.
18:08 You put it in a box.
18:10 So this electronic voting machine
18:12 gives you the right to manual voting
18:14 and also electronic.
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