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00:02 - Good evening and welcome to Kent on Climate live on KMTV.
00:18 I'm Abbey Hook and in this show we discuss
00:20 all things related to environmental issues in the county.
00:23 How is climate change impacting Kent?
00:25 What are communities in the county doing to tackle it?
00:28 And how can you help at home?
00:30 Each week we take a deep dive
00:31 into a new environmental issue in the county
00:33 and I'm joined by expert guests.
00:36 But first tonight, Kent Wildlife Trust staff
00:39 say they were left to clean up
00:40 after an unauthorized fireworks display
00:42 was held near a nature reserve in Gillingham this weekend.
00:45 It's home to a herd of grazing longhorn cattle
00:48 who were said to have not been injured
00:50 but did suffer distress during the display.
00:53 Well, to find out more, I spoke to Hannah Mackins,
00:55 a bison and conservation grazing ranger
00:57 from Kent Wildlife Trust earlier.
00:59 I started by asking what it's like for the animals
01:02 during bonfire night celebrations.
01:04 - Unfortunately, if these firework displays
01:07 are set off too close to our reserves
01:08 or in some cases actually within some of the areas,
01:11 it's going to be really distressing
01:12 for a lot of our wildlife.
01:14 There in the moment, the loud sudden bangs
01:16 and flashes of light is going to be
01:18 really quite distressing for them.
01:20 A lot of our animals might actually try to flee
01:22 from that sound and in turn end up injuring themselves.
01:25 And then we have the impacts that come the days after
01:28 where all of the litter and leftover things
01:30 such as sparklers are left behind,
01:32 which then becomes really harmful for our wildlife as well.
01:35 - What sort of harm can those things left behind
01:38 that we're seeing on, that we've seen
01:39 some of the pictures of,
01:41 what can they actually do to the animals?
01:43 - It can be really harmful in that
01:48 if they were to stand on the sparklers, for example,
01:50 that can cause injury to not only wildlife and livestock,
01:53 but also your pets and children as well.
01:56 As well as if they ingest some of those items
01:58 when they're grazing,
01:59 that's going to cause much damage to them as well.
02:02 So it can cause injuries
02:03 and in some cases also fatalities.
02:06 - Now, bonfire night is something
02:08 that happens every year, every November.
02:10 Is there something in saying that these animals
02:13 might be used to it by now, especially our pets?
02:16 I know there's a big talk about dogs
02:18 and how they're fearful during this time,
02:20 some of them might be.
02:22 Is there a sense that they would be used
02:24 to these kinds of things?
02:25 - Unfortunately not, no.
02:28 No matter how often these things do happen,
02:30 it is going to continue to be upsetting towards the animals.
02:33 There have been studies showing that anxiety levels
02:35 are really heightened around this time of year
02:37 and that's going to be repeatedly coming back each year,
02:41 regardless, unfortunately.
02:42 - And without perhaps removing the celebration,
02:46 keeping that celebration going,
02:47 but I suppose making the best of both worlds
02:49 for us to celebrate,
02:51 but also for the animals to be kept safe.
02:52 What would you suggest that's done instead?
02:55 - Of course, yeah, we're not suggesting
02:58 that we take away this event from people.
02:59 We understand that a lot of people do get a lot of enjoyment
03:02 from this time of year.
03:03 I would say the best thing that members of the public can do
03:06 is actually go to organised events
03:07 rather than trying to host their own parties
03:10 in these areas where it's not authorised to do so.
03:13 And these organised events not only make sure
03:14 that they are further away from wildlife,
03:16 but also make sure that everything
03:17 is cleaned up properly after.
03:19 So going to an organised event
03:20 is always going to be the best solution.
03:23 - And just lastly, very quickly,
03:25 is this something that you've seen get worse over the years?
03:28 - We have actually been seeing a heightened amount of calls
03:32 being brought into trusts and charities such as us
03:35 with people being concerned about the wildlife.
03:38 So we have been seeing definitely a lot more concern
03:41 and year on year,
03:42 we are seeing a lot more trash left behind in our reserves.
03:44 So it is definitely getting a little bit worse
03:46 each time it seems to be.
03:49 - Next tonight, the National Fruit Show
03:50 has been celebrating its 90 year anniversary in Maidstone
03:54 with many of the fruit business in attendance
03:56 from across the country.
03:58 With its storied history,
03:59 it's been one of the hot spots
04:00 for the UK's biggest homegrown industries
04:03 and is making preparations for the future.
04:05 Finn McDermid has more.
04:06 - Today marks the 90th annual National Fruit Show
04:10 in Maidstone,
04:11 an event where all things fruit come together.
04:14 From the farmer to the salespeople,
04:16 there's much more to fruit than just apples and pears.
04:19 The event shows off just how much effort
04:21 goes into the UK's homegrown produce,
04:24 from technological innovations
04:25 like drones and moisture sensors
04:27 to equipment like herbicides and farm vehicles.
04:30 I spoke to Ali Kappa on why the fruit show
04:32 is just so important.
04:34 - So I think the lovely thing about the National Fruit Show
04:37 is it brings the whole industry together.
04:40 Everybody from the grower all the way through to the consumer
04:43 and indeed the next generation
04:45 who might be looking for careers in the industry.
04:48 So it's really,
04:49 the show is a brilliant place to come together
04:52 for everybody to talk, to collaborate,
04:54 to come up with new ideas for the industry
04:57 and to look forward positively to the future.
05:00 And that's hard at the moment
05:01 because there are a lot of challenges in the industry.
05:04 - The show was started by a group of modern-based farmers
05:07 in the 1930s.
05:09 The National Fruit Show has an impressive history.
05:12 Sarah Calcutt has had a front row seat to that history,
05:15 coming from a generation of farmers.
05:17 She has attended the event since she was a child,
05:20 but this marks her last event.
05:22 - I mean, the show was founded 90 years ago
05:24 on the bring the best together.
05:26 We started in Marden, bringing the best together.
05:29 And we had the most important buyer of the time,
05:31 which was Selfridges,
05:33 bought the buyer from Selfridges down,
05:34 gave him a really good lunch,
05:35 showed him the greatest fruit,
05:37 got him to sign the contract, job done.
05:38 And for the last 90 years,
05:40 this society has been all about showcasing
05:42 what is absolutely brilliant about British Amerson Pears.
05:45 - Education is one of the main priorities at the moment
05:47 for the industry,
05:49 with some companies doing workshops around the country
05:51 for schoolchildren anywhere from four to 18 years old.
05:55 I spoke to Samantha Smith on just how they're going about this.
05:58 - We deliver our education programme from primary schools
06:01 and actually early years,
06:02 all the way through to secondary schools.
06:05 And we also deliver a full community outreach programme,
06:08 and that could include beavers or brownies or scouts,
06:11 any kind of group that comes together.
06:13 So National Farmers Union have farming groups as well.
06:16 So we go out to talk to all of these people,
06:18 and we also do big community events,
06:20 so county shows, and they're not just here in Kent,
06:22 but they're all over the country.
06:24 - And hopefully we will see more efficient solutions
06:26 to the problems of modern farming
06:28 in next year's Fruit Show as well.
06:30 Finn McDermott for KMTV.
06:32 - Next tonight, the Kent company driving a green agenda.
06:36 Nickels Transport are 100% gas powered
06:39 and even wash their trucks with rainwater.
06:41 By 2028, they say the whole fleet
06:43 will be running on biomethane
06:45 or begin to drive the first hydrogen trucks.
06:48 But how expensive is this and how likely is it
06:51 they'll reach these goals so soon?
06:52 Well, Rob Gearing,
06:53 Head of Commercial and Business Development
06:55 at Nickels Transport joins me in the studio now.
06:58 Rob, thank you so much for coming in.
06:59 And firstly, we have to address what's on the table.
07:01 You're here to talk about transport,
07:03 and we have honey on the table.
07:04 So tell us what this is all about.
07:07 Connect the dots for me.
07:08 - The dots are that the Nickels family
07:10 who run the business are so committed to being green
07:14 that we actually have bees that we,
07:17 they've got eight beehives.
07:18 We have bees around the site to pollinate all the flowers
07:21 and things that we've planted around them.
07:23 And they produce honey.
07:24 So we have Nickels Nectar.
07:26 And people can go online on Instagram,
07:29 see Nickels Nectar and track what the bees are doing.
07:32 There's candles, there's honey, there's all sorts.
07:35 - It's amazing.
07:35 It's all about the Nickels family being so green.
07:38 And that is what sets you apart.
07:40 So take us through what makes your transport
07:43 so different from all the others,
07:44 particularly here in Kent, but also the country.
07:48 - We invested in 2019 in the first LNG trucks
07:53 that came into the UK.
07:55 We had at the time 10 of them.
07:59 And we also invested in the first LNG refueling station
08:02 in the southeast of England
08:03 because there wasn't one before that.
08:05 The trucks run actually now on biomethane.
08:08 So biomethane, the product that produces it
08:12 would just rot.
08:13 It's manure, it's vegetables
08:15 that would just rot if they weren't used.
08:17 They are used to produce the biomethane.
08:20 So they are 100% green.
08:23 And where we're running on our trucks,
08:24 our trucks are actually producing 191% less greenhouse
08:28 gas emissions than conventional diesel trucks.
08:32 - It's incredible.
08:33 And you look at this story,
08:34 you think there has to be a reason why
08:36 not every single transport truck company is doing this.
08:39 So what are some of the downsides?
08:40 Is it the cost?
08:41 Where does it sort of fall down?
08:43 - There is a cost to it.
08:45 There are lots of major companies
08:47 who are far bigger than us
08:48 that weren't looking at this at the time,
08:51 but the Nicholls family have been committed to being green.
08:54 The greatest threat to our planet
08:57 is that everybody believes somebody else is gonna save it.
09:00 Well, that's not what the Nicholls family believe.
09:02 Nicholls family believe we will save it
09:04 by doing what we're doing.
09:06 And some of the figures that we're producing
09:08 are quite amazing.
09:10 From May last year to June this year,
09:13 we travelled 1,821,000 miles,
09:16 kilometres, sorry, not miles.
09:19 And doing that, we saved 3,180 tonnes of CO2.
09:24 Now, put that in perspective,
09:28 one kilogramme of CO2 kills off 15 kilograms of glacier ice.
09:35 So we saved in that year
09:38 over 1,477,000 kilograms of glacier ice from melting
09:43 with our little company based in City Mall.
09:45 - Some serious numbers you've got to remember as well,
09:47 but I suppose it's something
09:48 that the company believes in so much
09:50 that you just naturally do.
09:51 Now, some advice for some of those businesses out there
09:54 that might be looking at this and thinking,
09:56 we wanna make green changes,
09:57 but we don't know where to start.
09:58 It's such a huge thing to try and combat.
10:00 So, especially in an industry
10:03 where you're running vehicles.
10:04 So what are some of those small changes
10:06 that are actually sustainable?
10:07 - There are other changes that people can do.
10:11 There is a fuel called HVO,
10:13 which is hydrated vegetable oil,
10:16 which people can run their trucks on.
10:17 That will give 80% reduction in CO2.
10:21 The problem is that it's not available
10:23 all throughout the country.
10:24 So people will be driving around,
10:26 they won't be able to fill up in another station,
10:28 they'll have to fill up with diesel,
10:29 which then wipes out the savings that they're making.
10:31 So it's not there.
10:34 We are so committed to what we're doing.
10:37 We have invested now in a new refueling station
10:41 on our site, which is gonna be LNG, CNG,
10:45 electric recharging and hydrogen ready
10:48 to encourage more hauliers to come into the Kent area,
10:51 into Swale particularly,
10:53 so that they can get in and out of the area.
10:55 Because one of the biggest problems we have
10:57 is trying to get around the country
10:58 and finding refueling stations.
11:00 - And so by that hydrogen power
11:01 that you're looking to implement by 2028.
11:03 Well, thank you very much for coming in, Rob.
11:05 Really interesting talking to you.
11:06 Now, we do have a question to ask our audience though,
11:09 to see how closely they were listening.
11:10 Now, just before we take a quick break,
11:12 it's time for Kent's Climate Conundrum of the Week.
11:15 Well, we almost got there
11:23 with our Kent Climate Conundrum graphic.
11:24 You'll see it after the break.
11:26 But my question is, what year does Nichols Transport
11:30 plan on being completely carbon neutral?
11:32 So what year does Nichols Transport,
11:34 who Rob's here from today,
11:36 when do they plan on becoming carbon neutral?
11:38 Well, you can find out the answer after the break,
11:41 as well as all our latest environmental news,
11:43 such as the revelations from Storm Kieran.
11:45 We'll look at what's left behind
11:47 after some of that rough weather.
11:48 And if there is really the calm after the storm,
11:51 we've seen some beautiful pictures
11:52 of the Northern Lights this week.
11:54 We'll be talking to a photographer about them
11:56 in just a minute.
11:56 I'll see you then.
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15:06 Now, Storm Kieran battered Kent last week,
15:08 leading to some schools being closed,
15:10 significant delays on railways,
15:12 and damage to buildings and our environment.
15:14 Wind speeds of nearly 90 miles per hour
15:17 have knocked over many trees,
15:18 leaving emergency teams working around the clock
15:20 to keep our roads clear.
15:22 Well, Gabriel Morris covered the story.
15:24 Storm Kieran certainly packed a punch.
15:30 Wind gusts reached as high as 86 miles per hour
15:33 on the coast this morning.
15:36 At first light, we could see the extent
15:38 of the damage caused overnight by the Amber Alert storm.
15:42 Fences, wheelie bins, and tiles were all smashed,
15:47 but it could have been worse.
15:49 The ferocious winds of Storm Kieran
15:51 blew out the front windows of these two buses,
15:55 which were subsequently abandoned.
15:57 Commuters had to face surface water flooding
16:00 on their way to work,
16:02 whilst dealing with diversions
16:03 as emergency crews responded
16:06 to multiple reports of fallen trees,
16:08 some of those even hitting power lines
16:11 and knocking out power for hundreds of homes
16:14 across the county.
16:15 One tree even cut out the broadband
16:18 of this local councillor.
16:19 - It was cleared within 90 minutes.
16:23 So I reported at 6.30, they were on site at eight o'clock,
16:26 and by 9.30, they finished the work.
16:29 Social media has been active.
16:31 One of the small problems is that a lot of people
16:33 have lost their broadband due to cables going down,
16:37 and so communication is more difficult,
16:40 but I urge everybody to report to the online service.
16:44 It's very efficient.
16:45 - Down at the coast, high tide hit at lunch,
16:50 bringing about powerful waves.
16:52 Dramatic scenes, but the RNLI urged people
16:55 not to go too close, but from a safe distance,
16:58 and made a good photo.
17:00 But those rough seas cancelled cross-ferry services.
17:04 Lorries have been starting to build up all day in Dover,
17:08 and many schools across Dover have been closed as well.
17:11 - I think the fact that schools were largely closed in Dover
17:14 and the surrounding areas have meant
17:16 that there's lots of traffic not on the road,
17:18 staying at home.
17:19 TAP was put in place kind of around half six this morning.
17:23 What that's meant is there's a large number of lorries
17:25 that are kind of just parking up
17:27 in and around the Dover area.
17:29 Today is fine, today is free flowing, and that's a positive.
17:33 Tomorrow morning rush hour might not be
17:35 quite so positive, unfortunately.
17:38 - And the trains, they're severely impacted today,
17:42 travelling at a blanket 40 miles per hour.
17:45 - At one point, we had four trees down on the network.
17:50 There was a trampoline on the tracks,
17:52 but we've been running fewer trains
17:55 on what we call the classic network,
17:58 the routes around Kent, around the coast,
18:01 as opposed to that high speed line
18:02 from Ashford up to London St Pancras.
18:04 So yes, there have been a number of cancellations,
18:08 which is why we've put out the advice that we have today.
18:11 - And it's hoped schedules will be back to normal tomorrow.
18:14 The Amber Alert for wind has been eased.
18:17 It finished at midday today,
18:19 but it's been raining relentlessly.
18:22 Roads right across the county have been flooded,
18:25 leading to many blocked routes and delayed journeys.
18:29 In the afternoon, flood alerts were coming in thick and fast
18:32 with the intense rainfall on saturated ground,
18:35 putting pressure on river systems right across Kent.
18:39 - They all had over an inch, inch and a half of rain
18:41 across parts of more Western Kent.
18:44 No flood warnings, which is a good thing,
18:46 'cause when we start issuing flood warnings,
18:48 that's when flooding really is gonna start
18:50 happening to people's property.
18:51 So hopefully, looking at the forecast,
18:55 there's some showers about today and some rain tonight,
18:57 but tomorrow looks like hopefully we might get
19:00 a little bit of a respite,
19:02 and that will allow things to drain down,
19:04 surface water to dissipate,
19:06 and we're ready for the next lot.
19:08 - The consensus is, though, Kent got off lightly,
19:11 and lower wind speeds into the evening
19:14 are allowing for urgent repairs to be made.
19:16 Gabriel Morris for Kenya TV in Folkestone.
19:19 - Now for the calm after the storm.
19:22 One photographer has been capturing
19:24 some incredible shots of the Northern Lights this week.
19:27 Well, I'm pleased to say I'm joined by Jamie McBean,
19:28 an independent weather forecaster,
19:30 and of course, photographer.
19:32 Jamie, thank you so much for joining me.
19:34 It's great to have you.
19:35 Now, I have to say,
19:36 before I ask you about the Northern Lights,
19:37 you recently won an award for an incredible photo.
19:41 Firstly, congratulations, but tell me about that moment.
19:44 Take me through actually taking that photo.
19:46 - Oh, so it was a November day,
19:50 and I still remember it quite clearly.
19:52 I went on the train home,
19:53 and I could see this storm sort of arriving,
19:56 and I thought maybe it would produce a good shot,
19:59 but I just didn't have any idea until I got home
20:02 and saw these mammatus clouds above my house,
20:04 and I thought, "I'd better get them."
20:06 So I sprinted down to the seafront
20:08 and managed to get the shot of them
20:09 above the beach huts there.
20:11 - It's a beautiful picture we can see on the screen now.
20:14 Now, we did just see a few snaps of your Northern Lights.
20:17 Tell us about that and how they appear.
20:19 Is it something to do with the calm after the storm?
20:23 - So I managed to get them
20:24 because there was a coronal mass ejection from the sun,
20:28 which is not, I don't have the scientific know-how
20:32 to explain it apart from some releases
20:35 a lot of energy to Earth, and it hits Earth's magnetosphere,
20:39 but the way you see them here
20:43 is you have to go off observations
20:45 of what people have seen.
20:47 So there's obviously those pictures there,
20:49 and if someone sees them,
20:53 then you have a high likelihood of...
20:56 So say if someone in Herne Bay has said, "Oh, I can see them,"
20:59 then you have to go out there and get them,
21:01 otherwise you're just never gonna get them
21:04 because they're that sort of short-term and quick here.
21:06 - And also, there's something to say
21:08 about how you can see them with the naked eye
21:10 versus on a camera as well.
21:13 So is it a case that we can see them better
21:15 than we can take pictures of them or vice versa?
21:19 - It's different because the human eye
21:21 only has so much light it can take into it,
21:24 whilst the camera can leave its sensor open for ages
21:27 and gather lots of light and can tell the colours.
21:30 Because when I was looking at it,
21:31 I could tell the rays were dancing in front of my eyes,
21:35 especially one that went very bright
21:37 and sort of had a bit of colour, but then went away.
21:40 So the camera can really tell the colour,
21:42 but you just can't really unless it's exceptionally bright.
21:46 - Wow, so it's a bit of a case of,
21:48 bit of a case of snapping a picture
21:50 and looking back at it after
21:51 and realising actually what was in front of you, I suppose.
21:54 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
21:56 - And why has this become such a passion for you?
21:58 We've seen all your pictures all over Twitter,
21:59 we've got them all on the screen now.
22:02 Why is it such a passion of you?
22:03 Where did that come from?
22:04 - Oh, I think the passion just came from,
22:09 if you see, I see other people
22:12 just taking pictures of these things,
22:14 and I just think, I wanna get it.
22:16 And the aurora recently has been a lot more frequent
22:20 than it normally is due to solar maximum,
22:23 where there's more sunspots on the sun,
22:25 so there's more chances of ejections of plasma hitting Earth.
22:29 And it's kind of the aurora bug,
22:31 because once you get one,
22:33 you kind of wanna get a bit more
22:35 and then a bit more and more
22:36 until you get something as grand as that, so.
22:39 - And is there any way, you mentioned a bit before
22:41 that they don't come around that often,
22:43 is there any way of predicting when they will come
22:45 or planning and setting it up?
22:47 - There are some ways you can,
22:51 because there's different models that you can follow.
22:54 Although the main thing is,
22:55 the main thing I've noticed with these models
22:57 is they can be quite inaccurate.
22:59 So you really do have to go off what people are saying.
23:02 And you can look at some of the data,
23:04 although it doesn't tell the full picture.
23:06 - Do you think that will be a future of yours
23:08 to start being the person out there
23:12 that can let everybody know when we'll be seeing these?
23:14 Do you think this is something you will continue?
23:16 - Oh, definitely, yeah.
23:19 Because I quite like being able to just tell people
23:22 that there's the aurora out there
23:23 and then seeing all the shots they can get.
23:25 - And what about another award?
23:28 What do you think for another one of these?
23:30 Is it gonna be two in a row?
23:32 - Well, well, I hope so, but probably not.
23:38 (laughing)
23:39 - Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
23:40 They're incredible pictures.
23:43 And just lastly, is it just these sorts of lights
23:45 that you capture and the Northern Lights
23:47 and these sorts of events, or do you go out in all weathers?
23:50 Do you go out in storms like our reporter Gabriel was?
23:52 - Oh, absolutely.
23:54 If I had the chance to go out in that storm,
23:56 I absolutely would have.
23:58 At least the waves would have been massive.
23:59 But yeah, any kind of severe weather,
24:02 like thunderstorms, snow, rain,
24:04 I'm pretty much out in anything trying to get a shot.
24:07 - Amazing.
24:08 Well, it'd be great to join you
24:09 and see who could get a better shot on their camera.
24:11 Gabriel, our reporter, or you.
24:13 I'm sure you'd win.
24:14 But thank you so much for speaking with us.
24:16 Really interesting.
24:17 Some beautiful pictures as well.
24:19 And we urge all our viewers to send all theirs in as well.
24:22 Thank you so much, Jamie.
24:23 Finally, this evening,
24:26 Aylesford's Royal British Legion factory
24:28 has been busy making millions of poppies
24:30 as this year's Poppy Appeal is well underway.
24:33 But this time with a twist.
24:34 The poppies are completely plastic-free,
24:36 just like the one I'm wearing now,
24:38 being made solely from paper.
24:40 There are still some plastic ones in distribution though,
24:42 as they're using up the old stock not to waste them.
24:44 But they aim to be completely plastic-free by 2025.
24:48 Well, we asked people in Chatham what they thought.
24:51 - I think that's a lot better
24:52 where what we've got over warming
24:54 being quite a significant thing nowadays.
24:56 I think having every little helps
24:59 in terms of just recycling and all that.
25:01 For me, it symbolises my granddad
25:04 who fought in the war back in World War II
25:07 and remembering his legacy back then.
25:10 - Do you reuse your poppy?
25:13 - Yes, I do actually, yes.
25:15 And it says peace in it,
25:17 the white poppy with peace in it.
25:20 - I mean, I can understand
25:21 'cause people just wear the poppies
25:22 and then they just throw them away.
25:26 - Well, what do you think?
25:29 Let us know over on our socials.
25:30 Well, that's all we've got time for
25:31 on this week's episode of Kent on Climate.
25:34 We'll be back again next week
25:35 with another episode discussing more matters
25:37 relevant to environmental issues in the county.
25:40 In the meantime, you can keep up to date
25:41 on all things climate related in Kent
25:43 by visiting our website, kmtv.co.uk
25:46 or following us over on socials,
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25:50 I'll see you again next week,
25:51 but for now, from me and the team, goodbye.
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