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Sommelier André Hueston Mack returns for another edition of World of Wine, this time putting a $1,500 bottle of Harlan Estate red wine to the test. A lot of time and effort goes into creating such an expensive bottle but is it worth the premium price?

Director: Dan Siegel
Director of Photography: Kevin Dynia
Editor: Robby Massey
Host: Andre Mack
Director of Culinary Production: Kelly Janke
Coordinating Producer: Tommy Werner
Line Producer: Jen McGinity
Associate Producer: Oadhan Lynch
Production Manager: Janine Dispensa
Production Coordinator: Elizabeth Hymes
Director of Talent, Digital Video: Cynthia Simpson
Camera Operator: Will Boone
Assistant Camera: Lucas Young
Sound Mixer: Rachel Young
Production Assistant: Shania Collier, Alex Mitchell
Staff Editorial Consultant: Ryan Harrington
Researcher: Vivian Jao
Post Production Supervisor: Andrea Farr
Post Production Coordinator: Scout Alter
Supervising Editor: Eduardo Araujo
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Filmed on Location at 1 World Trade Center
Transcript
00:00 - Does it taste expensive?
00:02 - Wow, you know, it's so funny.
00:03 That is a dumb question.
00:04 [laughs]
00:04 Dan, it is not a dumb question
00:06 because that's what most people would say.
00:07 Does it taste like an expensive wine?
00:09 As my mama used to say,
00:10 you eat shit long enough, it tastes good.
00:12 Sorry, cut that.
00:13 No, no, don't put that in the air.
00:14 I'm just kidding.
00:16 Hey, I'm Samoyed Andre Houston Mack,
00:17 and today I'm tasting a $1,500 bottle of wine.
00:21 There's lots of time and effort that go into this bottle
00:23 that brings it to this price, but is it worth it?
00:25 We're about to find out.
00:29 In a past life, many of these bottles were opened by me
00:32 or members of the staff.
00:34 It was a Samoyed at Per Se restaurant here in New York,
00:36 and before that at the French Laundry.
00:38 Generally speaking, whatever retail is,
00:40 you double it, and that's what it is in the restaurant.
00:42 So this bottle of wine could be $3,000 plus in a restaurant.
00:46 We paid $1,550 for this particular bottle at retail.
00:50 That's a lot of money, right?
00:51 Like, if you have a roommate,
00:53 that might be your portion of the rent.
00:54 I think for some people, you know,
00:56 it just doesn't make sense.
00:57 But just right off the bat,
00:59 there are definitely signs of quality.
01:01 First, I'm gonna take a look at the label
01:02 and point out some more details
01:04 that represent what we're drinking.
01:06 So this is Harlan Estate, 2017, Napa Valley.
01:12 This is their proprietary blend,
01:13 so this is their red wine blend made from Bordeaux Varietals.
01:16 You know, so looking at the bottle, just straight up,
01:18 there's no real signs that say
01:20 that it's a premium bottle of wine.
01:22 Most of the time, you wouldn't be able to encounter it
01:25 in a wine store that would have it
01:26 and be able to touch it, right?
01:27 Like, it's locked behind glass.
01:29 Like, those are the things that would probably tell you
01:31 that it's special.
01:32 I think when they're talking about, on succession,
01:33 how everybody's wearing no logos, right?
01:35 This is simply about the wine that's inside of it
01:37 and about it being an ultimate luxury good,
01:40 to say the least.
01:41 It has, like, this pinpoint drawing.
01:43 The illustration on the front
01:44 is actually the same illustrator
01:46 who does the illustrations on currency, on money.
01:49 So you'd have to think that
01:50 that would make this wine expensive, right?
01:52 It would definitely make it rare in that way.
01:53 Those seem to be all added things.
01:55 So when we talk about why it would be expensive
01:58 or why it would be special,
01:59 packaging is one of them.
02:01 One key thing that you have here,
02:03 the bottles are numbered.
02:04 That's starting to hint at you, like,
02:05 "Okay, hold on.
02:06 "This is not an everyday bottle from Napa Valley.
02:08 "This is like a security code.
02:09 "This is the authenticity of this particular bottle."
02:12 People really don't counterfeit $1 bills, right?
02:16 They counterfeit on the most expensive, the $100 bill.
02:18 And so when you start to look at something like this,
02:20 you start to say, "Well, this wine has some pedigree.
02:22 "It must be rare enough
02:24 "that it has these security codes on it."
02:26 Even on the back, it doesn't give you much.
02:28 It doesn't even give you the breakdown of the grapes.
02:29 It just says, "Napa Valley Red Wine."
02:31 It's a combination of different grapes.
02:33 If it said Cabernet,
02:34 it would have to be at least 75% Cabernet
02:36 or any type of grape that was listed on there.
02:38 You don't know anything about this bottle of wine.
02:39 You're just looking at it,
02:40 and you're trying to say,
02:41 "Why does it cost that much?"
02:42 But you have to peel back layers of the onion,
02:45 do some research to understand.
02:47 So it's a steak grown in bottle at Harlan Estates,
02:49 and it says Oakville, California.
02:51 You have to know a little bit about Harlan Estates
02:53 to understand why it is special.
02:55 Now, Harlan is an estate
02:56 that was founded back in 1984 by Bill Harlan.
02:59 It's about 240 acres, pretty large,
03:01 but only 40 acres of it is planted to vines.
03:04 40 is very small, so I mean,
03:06 how that impacts is that you're not making a lot of wine,
03:08 and that's how you get quality fruit.
03:10 They're trying to make the best wine
03:11 that they can make from the fruit that they have.
03:13 It all sits in the Oakville region of Napa Valley,
03:16 and wine is much like real estate.
03:17 It's about location, location, location.
03:19 The fact that this wine is not only just in California,
03:22 more specifically, it's in a place called Napa Valley,
03:24 more specifically, it's in a place called Oakville,
03:27 where all of this is estate grown.
03:28 You can have your own vineyards that are on the estate
03:30 that's considered estate grown,
03:32 that you basically grow the grapes,
03:34 harvest the grapes, and make the wine.
03:36 So if you're not growing the fruit,
03:37 then you're at the whims of someone else's,
03:40 you know, the way that they pick
03:41 or the way that they wanna farm.
03:43 Estate grown fruit basically translates to quality
03:46 in a lot of cases.
03:47 All of the fruit is controlled by the chateau,
03:50 by the winery.
03:51 One hand gets to touch it, and that's a sign of quality.
03:54 You know, Napa Valley was discovered
03:55 as being like this great wine region
03:56 for growing grapes here in America
03:59 due to microclimate soil.
04:00 When it's a coveted place, prices for land are expensive.
04:03 It could be a million dollars per acre,
04:05 and then, you know, it's somewhere between 35 to 45,000
04:09 an acre to farm.
04:10 Generally, you don't make wine to what they call
04:12 on the third or fourth leaf,
04:13 and then it might spend, you know,
04:15 18 months to 24 months in oak.
04:17 So you're looking at five or six years
04:19 before you even produce any type of bottle
04:21 for a consumer.
04:22 That definitely has an impact on the price of the bottle,
04:25 and we haven't even talked about the cost of oak barrels
04:27 and all the other special things
04:29 that different wineries do to produce great wine,
04:32 but it definitely has an impact on the price.
04:34 So the next thing I wanna talk about on the bottle
04:37 is the vintage, 2017.
04:39 So a vintage is when the wine was harvested.
04:41 According to California law,
04:43 it doesn't have to be 100%, but lots of times, it's 100%.
04:46 In 2017, these grapes were harvested and made into wine.
04:49 Generally speaking, you don't know when it was bottled.
04:52 What's more important is when it was harvested.
04:55 Older could be better to a certain extent,
04:57 but in wine, generally speaking,
04:59 great vintages command a certain price.
05:01 We have great fruit that comes in,
05:02 great growing conditions that allow for the wines
05:05 to not only taste great, but also have longevity.
05:08 Bad vintages have a lot to do with the weather patterns,
05:11 or, you know, maybe there's too much rain,
05:12 there was a frost, there was hail.
05:14 There were all these things that happened
05:16 that could affect the vintage,
05:17 and 2017 was a good vintage.
05:19 I wouldn't say that it was a great vintage,
05:20 but in great years, you can buy from everybody.
05:23 In bad vintages, you still can continue
05:26 to buy the blue chips because they consistently
05:29 have always made great wine no matter what was happening.
05:31 Something like Parlin Estate is considered a blue chip.
05:34 They had this, you know, iconic status
05:37 as being some of the best wines made in America.
05:39 They made some of the greatest wine in 2017.
05:41 You know, what's interesting,
05:42 as global warming is a real thing,
05:45 you know, growing conditions change.
05:47 With the fires, you know, becoming more prevalent
05:49 in California, even in Oregon,
05:51 it makes it really hard to have great vintages.
05:53 You know, Mother Nature is changing,
05:56 and it's really hard to kind of make great vintages
05:59 when there's a lot of stuff going on like that.
06:00 All right, I think I'm ready to open it up and taste it.
06:03 How about you guys?
06:04 [upbeat music]
06:06 You know, I think the price point
06:07 and the rarity of this wine could spook quite a few people,
06:10 but you know what, I would open this
06:11 the regular way I would open anything else.
06:13 I've had the same approach because I've worked
06:15 in restaurants, and maybe the advice I'm giving you
06:17 is because I worked in restaurants.
06:19 It's so funny 'cause I say that
06:20 and then watch I break the cork in this thing.
06:22 All right, you just gotta go in and into it
06:23 and just be brave with it.
06:25 Let's get in here.
06:27 You don't need a really expensive opener,
06:28 and I find something with a lever here tends to work best.
06:33 So let's see, we get it in there.
06:35 And you wanna go slow, pull up.
06:38 We got some there.
06:39 Get our lever here.
06:41 This is normally where it breaks.
06:45 I should probably stop talking to you guys.
06:47 That's good.
06:49 At this point, I just kind of pull and twist.
06:51 Yep.
06:53 It's pretty clean.
06:55 We're gonna double check the vintage.
06:57 Some of them don't have vintages on it,
06:58 but check the markings on the cork.
07:00 So it says Harlan Estate.
07:01 This is 2017.
07:02 2017 matches the vintage that's on the front,
07:05 and we might be good to go.
07:07 It passed the first nose check.
07:08 Normally, I'd open it and just kind of
07:10 stick my nose over it.
07:11 I would want a decanthus wine,
07:12 so I wanna want this wine to breathe.
07:14 So decanting it, aeration,
07:16 what we're really talking about is introducing oxygen
07:18 into the wine, and that kind of really helps
07:20 slowly kind of break it down, break down some of the tannins.
07:23 But also, I feel like it might have some sediment in it,
07:25 and that's when just like as the wine starts to age,
07:28 pigment and particles kind of fall
07:29 to the bottom of the wine.
07:30 It's not harmful.
07:31 It's just a better wine drinking experience
07:33 if you don't have like these little sea monkeys
07:35 floating around in your wine.
07:37 So we'll go ahead and grab a decanter.
07:38 And because this is not that old,
07:40 I feel like what's best decanter here
07:41 is something with a wide surface to area range.
07:44 So you look at like something like this
07:46 that almost has a disc, this is kind of perfect.
07:48 So normally what I would do is use something as my base.
07:53 This is not technically old school.
07:56 So I'm gonna turn on the light in my phone.
07:59 So I wanna take it.
08:00 And once you start decanting, you don't wanna stop,
08:02 'cause you wanna stop going back and forth,
08:04 and you're kind of like mixing up the sediment in the wine.
08:06 We wanna grab the decanter.
08:07 I wanna put my thumb on the side here.
08:09 I don't wanna rest glass to glass.
08:11 That's how it chips.
08:11 But basically what we wanna do is we wanna take
08:13 the bottle of wine resting on my thumb,
08:15 and I wanna start pouring.
08:16 And basically I'm illuminating just right after the neck.
08:20 And I can see when the sediment starts to come.
08:23 And when it starts to come, I wanna pour slower
08:25 and trap it in the shoulder of the neck.
08:27 And my hand is getting really tired,
08:32 'cause this is an awkward pose,
08:33 and I don't want to drop this.
08:35 All right.
08:37 Smells great.
08:40 Just kind of stir it a little bit here,
08:41 just to kind of introduce a little bit more air.
08:44 Smells great.
08:46 I don't smell any corkiness, any wet newspaper,
08:48 or cardboard, or anything like that.
08:50 But the true test would be to taste it.
08:52 How should you drink a wine like this?
08:53 You know, I think where it matters is glassware.
08:56 I think glassware is important.
08:57 You wanna have the thinnest possible lip to it if you can,
09:01 but if you don't, you still wanna have a wine glass,
09:02 and I think you work your way back
09:04 to the best option you have.
09:06 And I've seen, you know, riding on a bus,
09:08 like, in wine communities,
09:10 going to one vineyard and an accent,
09:11 drinking it from the bottle.
09:12 Like, the idea of just being able to enjoy it,
09:14 I think, is what it really comes down to.
09:16 If you wanna drink it out of a paper cup,
09:18 then you drink it out of a paper cup.
09:20 Lots of iron ore, red currant.
09:24 This is actually really beautiful.
09:30 On the nose, when you smell it, you know,
09:31 it doesn't smell, like, jammy, or, like, over-the-top fruit,
09:35 but it has this fruit element to it
09:36 that's just, like, intriguing and alluring.
09:39 But also, when you taste it on the palate,
09:40 it's not like that.
09:41 You still get the same elements,
09:43 but, like, it smells like it could be overwhelming
09:45 and thick and luscious.
09:46 It's not.
09:47 It's really, kind of, really refined.
09:49 You know, it's graphite, right?
09:50 It reminds me of, like, shaving my pencil,
09:52 like, in second grade.
09:53 You know, a lot of that comes
09:54 from the minerality of the soil.
09:56 Wow, this is, um, this also has, smells faintly,
09:59 you know, this, like, mint or eucalyptus.
10:01 There's a herbaceousness to it that's not overwhelming.
10:05 I don't think that you have to try a lot of quality wine
10:08 to know the difference.
10:10 I think you taste it and you can automatically
10:12 see the different levels of quality in it.
10:14 You know, I think the biggest difference
10:15 that jumps out to me is that, like,
10:17 it tastes like real wine,
10:18 and I know that might even seem elitist
10:20 and, like, feel like, um, well, what is real wine?
10:23 You know, a lot of wines at a certain price point,
10:25 definitely 15 and under.
10:26 There's so much other things added to it
10:28 that it doesn't taste like a real product.
10:30 It's, like, different things added for color and flavoring
10:32 and all those kind of things.
10:33 This tastes real.
10:34 You know, it really tastes like real branches.
10:36 It just has, like, this natural realness to it
10:39 where the other thing feels like it's man-made in a way.
10:42 When I talk about this wine being balanced,
10:44 you know, what we're really talking about is
10:46 there's not an element of it that sticks out
10:48 like a sore thumb.
10:49 It's not overalcoholic.
10:51 It's not too ripe and fruity.
10:52 There's not acid as alabaster.
10:54 It's not sharp in that way.
10:55 It's not overly oaked.
10:56 All of these things feel really complete
10:58 and feel like they're working together,
11:00 which to me produces, you know,
11:01 what we talk about being a balanced wine.
11:03 If we talk about, like, you know, terroir,
11:06 does it shine through in this wine?
11:07 I believe that it does, right?
11:08 It does have some of the hallmarks
11:10 when you think about Oakville,
11:11 when you're talking about iron ore.
11:13 You can taste that in the wine.
11:14 I think for a lot of people,
11:15 the hump to get over is the price.
11:17 They're like, "Well, nothing could taste that good."
11:18 There's lots of different factors
11:21 on why this wine costs so much,
11:23 but the idea is being able to taste them for yourself
11:26 and understanding that, you know,
11:27 so when I say it's worth it, I would say yes,
11:29 but I generally don't spend this kind of money on wine.
11:32 Actually, I don't spend this kind of money on wine, actually.
11:35 Does it taste like an expensive wine?
11:36 I want to be very careful the way that I answer that.
11:39 Like, it does.
11:40 It actually does, right?
11:42 I'm sure there's a lot of people out there,
11:43 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but like, but it does.
11:45 It tasted like somebody really cared about it.
11:47 And you know, it gets dangerous at this price point.
11:48 You can see why people
11:49 in those kinds of restaurants are nervous.
11:51 I think, to be honest with you,
11:52 only you get to decide what you like.
11:55 If you're looking for, you know,
11:58 a bottle of wine of this stature or this type,
12:01 considering that, like, if you have the means
12:03 and the desire to buy a wine like this, it can be purchased.
12:06 Go to your local wine shop.
12:07 The second place, and probably maybe the best place
12:08 to get to a wine shop is to look online.
12:10 There are some pitfalls in that thing.
12:12 You know, in the wine industry, we talk about provenance,
12:14 like where did this bottle come from?
12:16 Who bought it?
12:16 Where it was stored?
12:17 All those things matter.
12:18 If you had a rare bottle of wine
12:20 and it was stored on top of somebody's refrigerator
12:22 for eight years, that's probably not good.
12:24 You want to make sure that the wine came
12:25 from a reputable place and was treated well.
12:27 And I think that also kind of removes you somewhat
12:29 from the counterfeit market.
12:31 The wine industry is coming, you know,
12:33 a lot closer in understanding, you know,
12:34 having counterfeit proof measures that are put on
12:37 from chips in the cork to holograms.
12:40 I think it's more important to buy from reputable places.
12:43 You know, people who have a reputation for selling,
12:45 you know, rare wine.
12:46 That eliminates, you know, a lot of the risk.
12:48 There is a reason why this wine is considered
12:50 one of the best wines made in America
12:52 and included in one of the best wines in the world.
12:55 You know, my relationship with wine is all exploratory.
12:59 For me, it's not to find a favorite that I want to drink
13:01 for the rest of my life that that feels kind of boring.
13:05 Now, maybe drinking to find the wine that I want to drink
13:06 the last 48 hours of my life, like that might be different.
13:10 Taste as many wines as you can,
13:12 whether they're expensive or not.
13:13 I don't play in that realm of buying these kinds of wines.
13:17 It's just not my thing, but I do get to taste them a lot.
13:20 I feel like because I don't pay for them,
13:22 you can really discern whether or not it's worth it.
13:24 Right, you know what I mean?
13:25 It's like, you watch the bootleg copy, you're like,
13:26 "Shit, I wouldn't pay $14 for that movie anyway."
13:29 Right? You know what I mean?

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