Election Ki Tareekh Se Mutaliq Ibham Khatam, Adalat Mein Kya Remarks Diye Gaye, Jaaniye
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00:00 We will bring the discussion to the studio.
00:03 Mr. Hasnath, let's start with you.
00:05 The Chief Justice said that the media should not create doubts.
00:10 We have given you the date and we will implement it.
00:15 Did you discuss this in any context?
00:17 That the media should not spread suspicions?
00:21 I think it is better to not give a remand.
00:27 We have given the remand and we are taking it out of context.
00:30 He wanted to say that there is a requirement of a constitution.
00:37 If there is a campaign in the media that there is no election
00:42 and people are creating doubts
00:46 and there is uncertainty in the country,
00:50 we will not allow it.
00:52 But the media regulates itself.
00:57 If the media is responsible,
01:01 if there is a news that there is no election,
01:04 how can they stop it?
01:06 It is different if the political party,
01:08 like the ANP's first response,
01:09 expressed doubts.
01:11 The political party will not broadcast it.
01:16 They have given a verbal remand, not a written order.
01:20 It would have been better if they had given a written order.
01:23 It is better that the judges do their work,
01:27 give a remand, and pay attention to the decisions.
01:30 So that their judgment is well reasoned.
01:35 The media will do its job.
01:37 The media has its own regulations.
01:40 But it will have a chilling effect.
01:41 When the Chief Justice will say that
01:44 the Pembra Election Commission is looking into a case,
01:49 and that a media person is doing this,
01:51 and that the Pembra Election Commission should complain,
01:54 you are giving a license to others,
01:56 and this is coming from the Supreme Court and the Chief Justice of Pakistan.
02:00 Maybe you are misusing your remand.
02:04 If the election commission has an agreement with a media person,
02:08 they will tell the Pembra Election Commission to do its job.
02:11 I think it would have been better if they had not done it.
02:18 I would like to add something.
02:20 Basically, this issue started from the fact that
02:23 the PTI lawyer, Barista Ali Zafar,
02:27 in his remarks the other day,
02:29 said that the decision to hold the election would be a stone-thrown.
02:34 He said that we should do it again.
02:37 The Chief Justice explained that
02:40 we have made this decision,
02:42 and there is no doubt about it.
02:45 The election will take place, God willing,
02:48 and no one should have any doubt about it.
02:51 During this time, he addressed the media corner,
02:54 and he said that no one has any objection.
02:57 In fact, a journalist friend of ours said that
03:00 we will not go out and express our objection on our forum in front of the camera.
03:05 Maybe he did it later.
03:07 But in that context, he was saying that we have made a decision,
03:10 because the decision to hold the election has already come from the Supreme Court.
03:13 When the PTI lawyer was repeatedly asking for those remarks,
03:18 he said that he has already written it.
03:20 In fact, he said that he has written the order,
03:22 and he asked to repeat it.
03:24 The date of the election has been given without any hesitation.
03:29 Both the parties have said that
03:30 after the negotiations between the President of the country and the Election Commission.
03:34 So, the election will take place.
03:35 No one will go to the next election.
03:37 The date was finalized.
03:39 It was in that context.
03:40 He repeatedly said that if you have any doubt that it was not done before,
03:47 then you should go and talk to your wife.
03:49 You are opinion makers.
03:51 You should not sit in front of the camera and express any doubt or suspicion.
03:57 Because the election has been announced.
03:59 The election will take place.
04:00 Mr. Atar Minnalla also said that
04:02 we have ordered it, so we will make sure that the election will take place on this date.
04:05 I would like to bring this debate to the studio.
04:07 Do you think that the remarks made in the court today
04:11 are interested in determining the onus of the election?
04:17 We will know more about it when the order is given.
04:21 Or, is it okay to proceed?
04:23 Justice Atar Minnalla repeatedly said that we are not condoning.
04:27 The violation of the 90-day date
04:31 should be dealt with by the officials.
04:34 And they should be determined.
04:36 Maybe they will write their additional note.
04:39 But Justice Qazi Faiza did not make any such remarks.
04:43 This is what they are thinking.
04:46 They are thinking that if this is allowed,
04:50 then how will the cases go?
04:52 This is the realization.
04:55 Because this matter,
04:58 for now, they have only the case of National Assembly and Provincial Assembly.
05:02 But the case of Punjab Assembly was a little different.
05:05 Now, the Supreme Court has a division.
05:07 The Supreme Court that was in the driving seat at that time,
05:11 Chief Justice Umrata Banjal,
05:13 she said that if the Election Commission cannot hold the election on the 90th day,
05:18 then they should come to us.
05:19 We will give the declaration. We will put the stamp.
05:22 They have distanced themselves in this matter.
05:24 And it is very clear that it is not our job to set the election date
05:28 or to give direction to anyone.
05:30 Every institution has its own domain. They should work in that.
05:33 So, they are going in that direction.
05:35 But one thing that Justice Atal Minala was saying that 90 days are mandatory.
05:40 The case of Chavan was that,
05:44 this doctrine will come in necessity if we give legal cover to something.
05:48 Now, this is a constitutional violation.
05:50 And this matter will arise.
05:54 When it arises, the debate will start and the inquiry will start.
05:56 And then you think that constitutional amendment will have to be done.
05:59 Parliament will agree, so they will have to do it.
06:03 There is no other solution.
06:05 And this door will have to be closed.
06:08 So, you think that this door has to be closed by the Parliament.
06:10 Or the court will take the date of the election
06:13 and will turn the matter back to the Parliament that you fix your own issues.
06:17 I don't think that the Supreme Court will write anything in detail on this matter.
06:23 Because the remarks that have come from the head of the bench,
06:27 that now we have to move forward on this matter.
06:29 Abid Zubairi was present when he wanted to give some arguments.
06:32 And he gave his arguments yesterday.
06:36 So, the Chief Justice said that we have to move forward.
06:41 And elections will come in the next few days.
06:44 Everyone agrees.
06:44 He asked if anyone has any objection to this.
06:47 You know that the election commission's stance was a little different.
06:51 The government's stance was also a little different.
06:53 But all those parties said that this election should happen.
06:56 So, they said that let's move forward without going back to the game.
07:01 And on a good note, I think the date of the elections has come.
07:05 But there is a big factor in this.
07:07 The government's co-operation was not there at that time.
07:09 It is the government now.
07:10 So, it means that the government is dependent on co-operation.
07:13 It means that if today the election commission would have said
07:16 that we don't have money and we have other obstacles,
07:19 then that would have happened.
07:20 They did not take that approach.
07:22 Exactly. At that time, the election commission had said these things.
07:24 And today the election commission has said that we are ready to hold the elections.
07:28 And when the election commission is saying that we are ready,
07:31 then of course the Supreme Court has said something.
07:33 Look, the Supreme Court did not give any date.
07:36 They said that the election commission and the President of Pakistan.
07:39 One good thing is that the President of the country,
07:41 who did not give the date of the elections,
07:44 the Chief Justice, I don't know why, but the President had surrendered his power.
07:49 The Supreme Court has given that power back to him.
07:53 And again, the election commission had given the date of the elections on 11th.
07:58 Now, the 11th to 8th date, I think the President used his power.
08:02 He used his power for four days.
08:03 He used his power and showed it.
08:04 Because not only did the Supreme Court give the 11th date,
08:06 but the Chief Election Commissioner had also written a letter to the President.
08:10 Yes, we drove the jeep.
08:10 In that too, it was on the 11th.
08:12 But anyway, when after the meeting, these people went back
08:16 and then after a while, press releases came from both sides
08:19 that it will be on the 8th,
08:20 the president's input was more in this date. He used his power.