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00:02 - Hello and welcome to Kent on Climate live on KMTV.
00:18 I'm Sophia Akin and in this show we discuss
00:20 all things related to environmental issues in the county.
00:23 How is climate change impacting Kent?
00:25 What are communities in the county doing to tackle it?
00:28 And how can you help at home?
00:29 Each week we'll be taking a deep dive into a new
00:31 environmental issue in the county
00:33 and I'll be joined by expert guests.
00:36 And first, people talking about the planet
00:38 with a pint or a pastry.
00:39 The eco idea now hosted in Kent,
00:41 that's trying to open up conversations about the climate.
00:44 The events gather people from across the county
00:46 with one goal in mind,
00:47 how we can make small changes to be more sustainable.
00:50 To find out more, Lucy Chaplin who hosts these events
00:52 joins me in the studio now.
00:54 Now Lucy, thank you for joining us.
00:56 So as I said there, you host these events.
00:58 So firstly, tell us a little bit more about it.
01:00 It sounds pretty appealing to me.
01:01 - Yes, well anything that involves either a drink
01:04 or a pastry has to be good, doesn't it?
01:06 - Exactly.
01:07 - So yes, so People Planet Pint was started after COP26
01:12 by Adam Bastock of Small99.
01:14 And he just wanted to get people together
01:17 to have an informal chat about sustainability,
01:21 about climate change.
01:23 And he thought that would be a really nice way to do it.
01:27 So yes, so the events run regularly all over the country
01:30 and abroad now as well.
01:32 And in People Planet Pint,
01:34 it's a chance to get together in the local pub
01:37 and have a drink and then to chat about sustainability
01:42 and meet people in the local area as well.
01:44 - Some of the best conversations take place
01:46 in the pub as well.
01:47 So it's a really good way of doing it.
01:49 And so how are you getting more people to listen
01:52 and learn about the climate?
01:54 Is this so far successful doing it
01:56 in this sort of quite casual way?
01:57 We can see some of the pictures there on the screen.
02:00 Is it successful so far from what's been happening?
02:04 - Yeah, so there's been lots of different conversations
02:07 going on about different things.
02:09 People have, I think the thing is that people
02:11 have been finding out so much from each other.
02:14 So for example, I didn't know about
02:19 where you invest your money,
02:21 how that can make a big difference
02:24 changing your bank account.
02:25 And that came through sort of casual conversations
02:30 that were had in the pub
02:32 and obviously been finding out a lot more as well.
02:35 So yes, and there's lots of other things
02:38 that have been going on and connections made
02:41 and sort of action taken together.
02:44 So I think the other thing is that then people talk,
02:47 have the casual conversations
02:49 and then help spur each other on to taking action.
02:53 - And there's sort of different types of these events,
02:56 aren't there?
02:57 There's sort of one for businesses,
02:58 one more for individuals, is that right?
02:59 So are there much differences in those different events?
03:03 - Yeah, so the People Planet Pint one,
03:04 which is the first one that was started by Adam,
03:08 that's for individuals and very informal
03:12 in the pub in the evenings.
03:16 The People Planet Pastry events,
03:18 as the sort of baby sister of People Planet Pint,
03:22 those are workshops for businesses
03:24 to help them think about how to be more sustainable.
03:27 And I think for a lot of businesses,
03:30 thinking about trying to reduce their carbon and so on,
03:34 it can seem like a really daunting task,
03:37 but actually there are simple small steps that can be made.
03:41 And that's what those workshops are for,
03:43 is to help businesses think about
03:46 the small action steps they can take
03:48 that don't cost a lot of money, don't take a lot of time,
03:52 but every small action makes a big difference.
03:56 - And how can people sort of actually get to these events
03:58 at the pubs sort of quite central?
04:00 'Cause I guess if we're talking about helping the planet,
04:02 we want it to be sustainable,
04:04 how people can actually get there.
04:05 So how is it accessible for people to,
04:08 can people come on foot?
04:09 - Yeah, yes, yes.
04:11 Well, so the ones in Sevenoaks, for example,
04:15 are in the middle of Sevenoaks.
04:17 So people can walk there or people can come by train
04:20 and walk from the station.
04:22 Or it's near the bus station as well.
04:24 - Oh, there you go.
04:25 There's quite a few different routes for them to get there.
04:27 And what's kind of the overall goal?
04:29 How are you hoping to sort of take this further?
04:31 What goes next after this?
04:33 - Oh, good question.
04:36 - Climate change is such a big issue.
04:37 So it's not something that just sort of stops there,
04:40 it's something that's got to be implemented
04:42 further and further along, isn't it?
04:44 - Yes, yes.
04:45 So that's the idea of the People Planet Pastry
04:49 is for people to, businesses to come along,
04:52 to talk about, to share ideas,
04:54 and to find out more about how they can be sustainable
04:57 and to go away from those workshops
04:58 with three concrete action steps
05:01 that they can take moving forward.
05:03 And also access to different resources
05:07 that they can tap into as well.
05:09 - And the name in itself, People Planet Pint,
05:12 does that entice people as well?
05:14 The fact that, you know, the pint is involved
05:17 and it's quite that sort of casual way of talking about it.
05:20 Is the name in itself a bit of a selling point?
05:22 - Oh, I think so.
05:23 I think so, yes.
05:24 And it very much highlights what a relaxed event it is.
05:28 It's not like going to a conference or something.
05:32 It's very much a relaxed meetup in the local area
05:37 and a lovely way to meet local people face to face
05:40 and make new friends
05:42 and think about how you can be more sustainable.
05:45 - Brilliant.
05:46 Well, with Christmas around the corner,
05:47 I imagine these will be quite popular
05:49 around Christmas time, people in the pub.
05:51 But that's all we've got time for for now.
05:52 So thank you very much for joining us.
05:53 I'm sure we'll catch up with you in the future.
05:55 Thank you very much.
05:56 - Thank you.
05:57 - Now, how is Kent green after Halloween?
06:00 As we start to put away our Halloween decorations
06:02 for the year, we're left with our jack-o'-lanterns
06:04 and the questions of how we dispose of them correctly.
06:07 Pumpkins can be harmful to some wildlife,
06:09 but instead of throwing them out,
06:10 why not create a tasty recipe with them?
06:12 Here's Daisy to show us some more Halloween tips
06:14 and tricks this fall.
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06:19 In the UK, 22.2 million pumpkins are estimated
06:28 to be wasted this Halloween.
06:30 Kent Wildlife Trust urges the public not to dispose
06:33 of unwanted jack-o'-lanterns in the woodlands.
06:36 - It's really important that pumpkins aren't disposed
06:38 on any woodland sites, just such as this one at West Vleen,
06:43 as it can be quite harmful to our wildlife
06:46 as well as our livestock grazing animals.
06:49 We want them to graze naturally.
06:50 We're researching how their grazing affects the woodland.
06:54 So that natural diet is super important
06:56 and pumpkins is not a natural part of the forest ecosystem.
07:00 The dangers of disposing pumpkins in the woods
07:03 is that they're left here to rot.
07:04 And so local wildlife, such as hedgehogs, badgers, foxes,
07:08 things like that, will be eating it.
07:10 So for hedgehogs, it can be quite harmful.
07:12 And as well, pumpkins can often,
07:14 if you think about the decorations that might be on it
07:16 or like melted candle wax, things like that,
07:19 that's something that's just not edible either.
07:20 So it's really important that we're not causing extra harm
07:23 to these wildlife that are already struggling.
07:25 Just make sure that when you're done with these pumpkins,
07:27 that you do not bring them to any of our nature reserves
07:30 as it can be very harmful to our wildlife.
07:32 - It is important not to dump your pumpkins.
07:35 Instead, you can compost them or place them
07:36 in your food bin.
07:38 But is food waste the biggest fright of Halloween?
07:40 And what can we make with pumpkin?
07:42 - At the refinery here, we're all focused
07:44 on reducing packaging primarily,
07:47 but also reducing food waste
07:48 so that you only need to buy as much as you need.
07:51 Pumpkin pasta recipes are really easy to find online.
07:54 There's all sorts that you can add in,
07:56 including the bits of white wine, for example,
07:59 or spices and ginger.
08:01 And again, at the refinery and other refill shops,
08:04 you can buy small amounts of pasta
08:06 just as much as you need for you
08:07 and your family or flatmates.
08:09 You can experiment with a pasta recipe
08:11 that you've never done before
08:12 and not worry about having too much pasta left over.
08:14 The pumpkin seeds can be really tasty,
08:17 really easy to make use of those.
08:19 You can dry them, just wash them,
08:21 wash all the flesh, the pumpkin flesh off the seeds,
08:24 dry them in a, like a,
08:25 once you've cooked something in the oven,
08:27 just pop them in as the oven cools down.
08:30 And then you can roast them as well,
08:31 add a bit of oil and salt.
08:32 Or you could easily get several hundred grams worth
08:35 of pumpkin seeds for free
08:37 just by taking them out of a pumpkin
08:39 that you've carved for Halloween.
08:40 Using my pumpkin from my last report,
08:42 I had a go cooking a recipe.
08:44 What will you try?
08:45 Daisy Page for KMTV.
08:49 - Daisy joins me now.
08:51 That soup looked absolutely delicious at the end.
08:54 Now, what else can you do around Halloween
08:56 to be sustainable?
08:57 You gave us some tips and tricks there in last week too.
08:59 So what else can you do?
09:00 - Well, as you saw last week,
09:02 I had a lot of Halloween items,
09:04 as I just love Halloween.
09:06 But what I like to do now is after the season,
09:09 what I'll do, I'll just get a box
09:10 and I'll pack them all away
09:12 and put them in an attic or just a cupboard.
09:14 Because every year at Christmas time,
09:16 we get out our decorations and put them away.
09:18 So I just think, why not do that at Halloween as well?
09:22 And a big thing with Halloween, when I go shopping,
09:25 I like to think, can this be used and can this be recycled?
09:30 And that's one way that I actually shop more sustainably,
09:33 not just for Halloween, but Christmas, Easter,
09:35 all the other events as well.
09:37 - And what are you doing with your pumpkins?
09:39 I know you've got quite a few pumpkins at home, Daisy.
09:42 So now that Halloween's finished,
09:44 we saw you do some cooking with them,
09:45 but what are you doing with your vast supply of pumpkins?
09:49 - Yeah, so everyone knows I've got quite a few pumpkins.
09:51 I actually got them from a farm quite locally to me.
09:54 We went and picked them ourselves.
09:56 But every Halloween, probably this weekend now,
10:00 I'll just make a big soup with all of them
10:02 and some other vegetables.
10:04 And everyone will think it's quite a lot,
10:07 but by the time I hand it out to all my family and friends,
10:10 it goes down quite quickly.
10:11 And the great thing about pumpkin soup is that
10:13 I also can freeze it.
10:14 So on nights I don't fancy cooking,
10:17 I can just get that out and it's really quick and easy
10:19 and healthy because there's loads of vegetables
10:21 in it as well.
10:23 - Exactly that.
10:23 So do you find it difficult at all to try and keep up
10:26 with being sustainable throughout the different seasons?
10:28 We've got Christmas just around the corner
10:30 where people will be using sort of wrapping paper
10:32 and things like that.
10:33 So is it kind of difficult to keep that going
10:36 throughout the seasons to keep being sustainable?
10:39 - I think when I first started my sustainability journey,
10:42 it was really daunting because I feel like
10:44 you think you have to do everything from start,
10:47 from scratch as sustainable, otherwise it has no impact.
10:50 But I actually discovered starting with just one thing,
10:53 one small thing can actually make a difference in itself
10:55 'cause loads of little things add up to a big thing
10:57 in the end.
10:58 And as you mentioned, the wrapping paper,
10:59 one fun way I actually do this and get my family involved,
11:02 I host an annual like who can wrap up their presents
11:05 the best, but sustainably,
11:07 and they get an extra present at Christmas.
11:09 - That's such a good idea.
11:10 I guess like newspaper, things like that paper,
11:13 rather than sort of plastic or cellophane,
11:15 it's quite a good way of being sustainable.
11:17 - One last year was tea towels as well.
11:19 - Oh, brilliant idea.
11:19 Well, Daisy, while we've still got you here,
11:21 it's almost time for our break,
11:22 but we're going to be doing
11:23 Kent's climate conundrum of the week.
11:25 And I wanna ask you what you think.
11:27 The question is what percentage of Halloween costumes
11:29 use non-recyclable plastic?
11:31 That's what percentage of Halloween costumes
11:33 use non-recyclable plastic?
11:34 What would you say?
11:35 - I'm gonna go with 70%.
11:37 - 70%, I reckon it's pretty high as well.
11:39 Well, we'll find out after the break,
11:41 so do stick around for that.
11:44 Coming up, we'll find out the answer to that question,
11:46 but also more about a solar farm
11:48 that's causing controversy in the world of Kent
11:51 and a storm brewing.
11:52 Gabriel has the details on the storm coming tomorrow.
11:55 See you very soon.
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15:07 - Hello and welcome back to Kent on Climate live on KMTV.
15:11 Just before the break,
15:12 I asked you Kent's climate conundrum of the week.
15:15 Just a reminder, the question was,
15:16 what percentage of Halloween costumes
15:18 use non-recyclable plastic?
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15:23 So what percentage of Halloween costumes
15:33 use non-recyclable plastic?
15:35 Well, the answer is 83% of Halloween costumes
15:39 use non-recyclable plastic.
15:41 That's according to Hummingbird International in 2022.
15:44 It's equivalent to around 2000 tons of plastic waste.
15:47 And did you know 63% of Halloween costumes
15:50 can take from 20 to 200 years to decompose.
15:53 So maybe it's got you thinking on how to upcycle
15:56 or transform your spooky outfit
15:58 so we can wear it again next year.
16:00 Well, that's this week's Kent climate conundrum.
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16:06 Next tonight, Kent is often called the garden of England.
16:17 It's really getting into the solar game
16:18 and it's no surprise considering
16:20 it's one of the sunniest counties around.
16:22 In Cranbrook, a 16 hectare solar farm
16:24 is currently going through planning permission.
16:26 It might be hidden behind some trees,
16:28 but it's causing a bit of a stir in the local community.
16:31 Gabriel Morris has this report.
16:33 The garden of England is quickly becoming home
16:36 to many solar farms.
16:38 After all, it is one of the sunniest counties.
16:40 Just down the road from Cranbrook,
16:44 a future site is proposed behind these trees.
16:47 A 16 hectare solar farm could soon be operational.
16:52 It's out of view from the public,
16:54 but it's dividing the local community.
16:57 The owner of Netta's farm hopes energy generation
17:00 will create a wholly organic farm operation.
17:03 And as you can see, it's an idyllic country
17:06 seen in this area of outstanding natural beauty.
17:09 But Beniderm Parish Council are objecting
17:12 to the new solar farm being built.
17:15 They say it goes against their neighbourhood plan.
17:18 We reached out to them,
17:19 but they declined to comment further.
17:21 Cranbrook and Sissinghurst Parish Council
17:23 believe the land will not be permanently harmed
17:26 and hope it will actually benefit the area.
17:29 We all use electricity.
17:31 We just cannot be nimbies and think,
17:35 oh, well, we can stick them somewhere else.
17:37 We've got an AONB, we're really proud of it,
17:40 and we protect it as much as we possibly can.
17:43 But we feel that we live in a modern world
17:46 and we have to take the modern world as it comes.
17:50 And this seems to be a real opportunity
17:52 for us to do our bit.
17:53 The proposals have seen around 40 comments
17:56 from local residents,
17:58 many concerned for the loss of agricultural land.
18:02 No, it's still operating as agricultural land
18:03 because the sheep can graze underneath these things.
18:06 And that's very important as well.
18:08 It's not like building sort of concrete-based power station.
18:12 It's not that, it's reversible.
18:14 And the sheep can continue to operate
18:18 so our food supplies and our wool supplies are protected.
18:21 Critics argue the flaw of solar power
18:24 is it cannot be stored.
18:26 But the developers say this renewable energy
18:28 will come with battery storage.
18:31 Yet the whole site would be spread
18:33 between two locations close to an ancient woodland,
18:38 which is alarming for local wildlife trust.
18:41 So our main concerns are the impacts
18:42 the development will have on habitats and species
18:45 that are already present on site.
18:48 So the site's adjacent to an area of ancient woodland,
18:51 which is an irreplaceable habitat,
18:54 and there are risks of indirect impacts
18:57 during the construction phase.
19:00 So overall, we're not convinced that enough
19:02 supporting ecological information has been provided.
19:06 So we'd like to see these further
19:08 protected species surveys undertaken.
19:10 The debate is heating up on the potential solar farm,
19:13 and it's a similar story across much of Kent,
19:16 as the UK looks for energy security.
19:19 Gabriel Morris for KMTV in Cranbrook.
19:23 Kent is bracing itself for Storm Ciaran,
19:26 as it's expected to bring wind speeds
19:27 of up to 90 miles per hour tomorrow morning.
19:30 An amber alert from the Met Office is in force
19:32 with roads and public transport
19:34 set to be hampered by the gale.
19:36 Experts say this storm does pose a small risk to life
19:38 due to flying debris and coastal areas
19:41 under threat with powerful waves.
19:43 Gabriel Morris has this report.
19:44 The calm before the storm.
19:47 Storm Ciaran is set to batter Kent
19:50 in the early hours of tomorrow morning.
19:52 It's already a windy day today,
19:54 but the warning tomorrow is wind gusts
19:56 could be as high as 90 miles per hour.
19:59 Experts say there is a small risk to life.
20:02 If you're close to the promenades,
20:04 the waves will be crashing over.
20:06 Quite often, people walking around the promenades
20:09 can get swept in.
20:10 Unfortunately, half the people that do die
20:13 near the UK and Ireland are actually just walking,
20:16 so they get swept in,
20:17 and they're not expecting to be in the water.
20:19 So that's a real big danger
20:21 that's gonna happen with these waves tomorrow.
20:23 This is just one of the many sea walls across Kent.
20:26 Tomorrow, they'll be under great pressure.
20:29 Waves are expected to be as high as 10 meters
20:31 in some places because of Storm Ciaran,
20:34 and waves might just break sea walls.
20:36 Inland areas won't escape tonight's storm either.
20:39 A yellow alert is in place for rain.
20:42 And today's heavy downpour
20:43 has already strained our drains.
20:46 Councils across the county are now on standby
20:48 for flooding tomorrow.
20:50 The team are preparing probably something like
20:51 6,000 sandbags,
20:53 but these are gonna be on a case-by-case basis,
20:55 mostly kind of our assets to begin with.
20:58 And so we're encouraging people
20:59 to manage their own properties in the first place.
21:01 We will be putting in more staff overnight, though,
21:03 on the out-of-hours team,
21:05 just in case things do happen.
21:07 And the kind of tidal protections
21:10 have been put in place in both Dover and Dill,
21:12 just in case there's any tidal surges.
21:14 But again, we're not expecting
21:15 anything massively problematic.
21:17 Flood alerts are expected to come into force overnight
21:19 from the Environment Agency.
21:21 I think if you know you're at risk from flooding
21:24 and flooding has occurred in these conditions in the past,
21:27 you really need to prepare those important documents,
21:31 make sure they're in a safe place.
21:33 If we start issuing warnings,
21:38 I would suggest if you know you've flooded before,
21:40 you might wanna think about moving furniture
21:42 and getting out, really.
21:44 You might remember Storm Eunice from last year,
21:47 smashed cars, fallen trees,
21:49 and even a toppled power station.
21:52 Lorries were blown over,
21:54 which caused disruption to our roads.
21:56 At the moment, it is, I say, only an amber warning,
22:00 whereas Storm Eunice was a red warning.
22:03 So it was expected to be more severe,
22:06 and it did really hit.
22:07 But in particular, within Kent Highways,
22:10 we have additional staff on standby throughout the days.
22:14 We have drainage crews, we have chainsaw crews, et cetera,
22:18 to deal with any issues that we find on the roads.
22:22 And all railways are preparing too.
22:24 Network Rail are expected to introduce speed restrictions
22:27 by the Kent coast.
22:29 We would advise people not to travel
22:32 before 9 a.m. tomorrow morning.
22:34 This is because train drivers will need to take out trains
22:39 first thing in the morning to check that the tracks are clear
22:41 and to check that there are no obstructions on the tracks,
22:45 such as fallen trees and other debris
22:47 that might be picked up by the storm.
22:49 And with this all in mind,
22:51 should you even go to work tomorrow?
22:54 As it stands, workers will need to go into work
22:56 if their employer calls them in.
22:58 But what I would say for any employers that are listening
23:01 is it's important to try and keep your staff members safe,
23:06 not only morally, but legally.
23:08 It's important to keep them safe
23:09 and you'll have them for longer.
23:11 So, you know, most of us now,
23:13 unless you're in a position where you work in a shop
23:15 or you're face-to-face type business,
23:18 can do working from home.
23:19 The winds are set to be strong
23:21 and the warnings are even stronger for tomorrow.
23:24 The advice is be prepared.
23:27 Well, joining me on the line now
23:28 to talk about this a little bit more
23:29 is Stephen Wall, a Kent weather specialist.
23:32 Stephen, thanks for joining us.
23:33 So how common do we see storms like this?
23:36 It feels pretty rare that we're seeing them to this extent.
23:41 Yeah, we do tend to get these storms most years.
23:46 Typically the gusts in those events
23:48 are generally around the 60 to 70 mile an hour mark.
23:52 But every few years, maybe every five to 10 years,
23:55 they sort of exceed those sort of values, 75 to 80.
23:59 And then, yeah, once in a generation,
24:01 you may get something like a significant event
24:04 where you're getting up to the high 80s, sort of low 90s.
24:08 So yeah, the warnings are out for this one.
24:10 It's a particularly deep area of low pressure
24:13 and there are some potential impacts
24:16 with this particular low pressure system,
24:18 as we've mentioned tomorrow morning.
24:20 Yeah, so how worried should we be for tomorrow?
24:23 Is it safe to drive?
24:24 Can people sort of go about their daily activities?
24:27 We've seen it's going to have sort of a disruption
24:28 to the rail services and things like that.
24:30 So is it kind of one of those things
24:32 that you should only really leave the house
24:34 if it's a necessity or?
24:35 Well, the Met Office, yeah,
24:38 they have issued the amber warnings.
24:41 Certainly looking at it,
24:42 it's for the sort of most of the region of Kent
24:45 are covered by that and read the wordings.
24:48 You know, they don't put these amber warnings out lightly.
24:52 There is a risk to life because of flying debris,
24:55 but you know, and we're all adults.
24:58 We can all make informed decisions,
24:59 but these warnings are there.
25:01 And yes, as we've already mentioned,
25:03 if your journey isn't necessary in the morning,
25:07 then certainly I wouldn't be making that journey.
25:10 90 mile per hour winds expected tomorrow.
25:14 Is this likely?
25:15 And have we seen sort of winds this harsh recently?
25:19 Or is it, as I said before,
25:20 is it something that's quite rare?
25:22 Yeah, I think it's quite rare.
25:24 I think, you know, every 10 years or so,
25:27 you will see an event where the gusts
25:30 are potentially getting up towards 85 or 90 miles an hour.
25:34 And I think tomorrow's, that will be the case.
25:38 Looking at the models, the intensity,
25:40 the strongest gusts are going to be very close
25:43 to the Southeast coast,
25:45 particularly Folkestone, Dover, Dungeness,
25:48 down to East Sussex.
25:49 The shoreline are particularly at risk,
25:51 but even inland, there are potential for gusts
25:55 sort of in excess of 60 to 70 miles an hour.
25:58 And you know, inland, they're not used to it.
26:00 And it's worth mentioning that we've had
26:02 a very, very wet spell of weather recently.
26:04 The ground is saturated.
26:06 The leaves on the trees are still in leafs,
26:08 so that's more resistance to the wind.
26:10 So I think there's going to be some danger of falling trees.
26:14 They will be a big hazard, I would have thought,
26:16 you know, combined obviously with the rain
26:19 that we've had recently.
26:20 So yeah, the warnings are very valid
26:23 and people should be paying attention to them.
26:25 So people need to take those warnings seriously,
26:27 as you say, Stephen, thank you very much for joining us.
26:30 As you say, people need to really take caution tomorrow.
26:33 Thanks, Stephen.
26:34 That's all we have time for
26:37 on this week's episode of Kent on Climate.
26:39 We'll be back next week with another episode
26:41 discussing more matters relevant
26:42 to environmental issues in the county.
26:45 We'll be back at eight with our evening news bulletin.
26:47 Have a lovely night.
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