South Africa's Temba Bavuma reacts to their nail-biting 1 wicket win over Pakistan in the closest game of the ICC Cricket World Cup so far
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00:17 How's it, Timber?
00:19 How's your heart rate after that one?
00:21 It's a bit-- it's gone down a bit now.
00:26 Yeah, obviously quite happy.
00:29 At the result, yeah, quite happy.
00:36 Hi, Timber.
00:37 Last night you spoke about how guys
00:40 would work quite hard to be as calm as possible
00:42 and exuding this calmness.
00:44 So take us into the change room.
00:46 I mean, was that the same, especially
00:48 those last couple of weeks that we're batting out there?
00:52 Probably not as calm at the moment.
00:54 A little bit chaotic now with the guys jumping around.
00:57 I think obviously at the end as well,
00:59 we were all on the edge of our seat.
01:03 I think you had everyone's opinions flying around
01:06 as to how we should be going about that run chase.
01:10 But at the end of the day, the guys
01:12 who were in there, Kesha and Shamu, they did it for us.
01:17 I think, look, it's easier for us to have conversations now.
01:21 With regards to our run chase, we've
01:22 got the results on our side.
01:25 I mean, I do think we could have shown up
01:28 a lot more of a clinical display in going about that run chase.
01:33 I think we did have luck on our side.
01:37 We did give them opportunities to get into the game.
01:41 Unfortunately for us, I think the guys were with us.
01:44 But like I said, it's easier for us to have those conversations
01:48 regarding how--
01:49 probably regarding our blueprint and how
01:51 we want to go about going about those run chases.
01:57 Tim, but yeah, there were times when
01:59 you seemed to be in fifth gear and then sixth gear.
02:03 And then you stayed there.
02:05 And there were times when it seemed like it
02:09 would be a normal option to change down those gears.
02:13 Because you were ahead of the game, ahead of the run rate.
02:16 But you kept going.
02:18 Sometimes you're not always in control of those kind of things.
02:21 Was it a conscious decision, or was it just
02:22 the momentum was unstoppable?
02:25 Yeah, I think that's the word there, is control.
02:28 We didn't show that control.
02:29 I think-- I mean, I think I've said this probably 50 times.
02:32 We've spoken about our brand of cricket being positive.
02:35 But I think probably in situations like that,
02:37 there is room for us to maybe be a bit more calculative,
02:42 maybe identify where the risks are,
02:44 and how we can have low-risk options in terms
02:48 of coming up against whatever the challenges are.
02:53 Again, like I said, I think it's conversations that we're
02:56 going to need to have.
02:57 And it's the learnings that we're
02:59 going to have to take out of performances like these.
03:03 I think from a belief point of view, what I must say
03:05 is that I think it will go a long way in terms of our team,
03:10 in terms of how far we believe that we
03:12 can go in the tournament.
03:13 So I don't think we can overlook that and focus too much on maybe
03:18 how the way we went about our chase kind of fuels
03:21 that narrative of us not being clinical when
03:23 it comes to run chases.
03:25 I think there's a lot of positives that we should take
03:28 and momentum that we should run.
03:29 So, Temma, talk us through about that phase
03:37 where the collapse happened.
03:38 Obviously, after a great start, no one kind of expected it.
03:41 So what exactly happened?
03:42 And also, if you can give an idea about the pitch,
03:46 was it acting a bit slow towards the end?
03:49 Look, I felt the wicket was a good one,
03:53 especially when it stopped swinging.
03:57 Quinny looked like he was seeing a beach ball.
04:00 So he was going off the heat shots.
04:02 I started getting into gear.
04:06 We lost those early wickets with Quinton and myself.
04:09 Partnership started to form between Russie and Aiden.
04:13 I guess those partnerships just weren't long enough for us
04:16 to be-- for it to be a clinical performance.
04:19 And then, obviously, at the end, that's where, I guess,
04:23 the panic, I would say, kind of set him.
04:26 Having chatted to the guys, yes, so I
04:28 can't say what the guys were thinking
04:30 at that point in time.
04:32 Then I think at the end, I mean, Kesh caught it over the line.
04:38 Probably he was a lot more cautious
04:39 than we know Kesh to be.
04:42 So I guess there we'll have to understand
04:44 what his thinking was.
04:45 So hard for me to really give you
04:48 proper insight into the psyche of the guys
04:51 while they were batting there.
04:54 Maybe in the pressure leading up to the game,
04:57 there will be answers.
05:00 Tim, we've spoken about-- you've used the word clinical a few
05:03 times, in that you want to improve the clinicalness
05:06 of your performance.
05:06 But this question of can you chase
05:09 is hung over you and your players,
05:10 and you've been asked about it for quite a while now.
05:13 How far do you think you went tonight
05:16 in answering that question?
05:19 Look, I think the way we see it, it's more of a challenge.
05:24 A challenge that we're looking to obviously improve
05:27 within our batting.
05:28 We're looking at how we can be better as a batting unit.
05:34 So we don't see it as a hurdle.
05:39 It's more of a challenge.
05:42 And I think it's probably a nice challenge
05:43 to have when you're close to the top of the log in the tournament.
05:49 I think as much as we played well,
05:51 but we recognize that there are areas that we can improve in
05:54 within our batting, like we've spoken about in terms
05:57 of the chasing, probably within the bowling as well.
06:00 I think with the bowling, we were a lot more clinical
06:03 when it came to the death phase.
06:06 So I think there's improvements that we're making.
06:08 We're not playing-- we haven't played our best game
06:12 of cricket yet.
06:13 So I think that's a good sign really for a team that
06:17 finds themselves close to the top of the log.
06:20 Hi, Timber.
06:23 This has been a pretty challenging tournament
06:25 for new ball bowlers, with the ball not swinging as much.
06:28 But Marco has excelled in that phase,
06:30 even though the ball hasn't been swinging much.
06:32 Could you just talk us through about what
06:34 makes Marco effective even in these conditions?
06:37 I think the ball is swinging.
06:40 And I think Marco has recognized that.
06:42 He's been working a lot on his wrist position,
06:44 and he's exploiting whatever swing and seam that
06:49 is there on offer.
06:50 I think there's freedom for him to go
06:52 about searching for those wickets,
06:53 but still having the control.
06:57 And I think also being backed up with a guy like Lungi
07:00 on the other side, who's also looking to exploit whatever
07:04 swing, whatever seam that is on offer,
07:06 I think they're working well together.
07:09 So look, I mean, players will always flourish
07:12 when they feel backed.
07:15 We know Marco, Australia series, wasn't bowling the quality
07:19 that he is bowling now.
07:20 But he understood that the guys who had him in the team
07:24 were backing him.
07:25 And we know what his skill set is.
07:27 So it's on show now.
07:29 He's really becoming a weapon of ours.
07:33 We'll take that any day.
07:37 Hello, Timber.
07:39 Last-- since 15th October, three close games for South Africa,
07:43 two in rugby, one today.
07:45 How many times do you think they're
07:47 going to take the pressure?
07:48 And also, with box going on, this
07:51 is the defending of their World Cup.
07:54 What do you think your team can get from them?
07:58 And it has been a great year for South African sport
08:01 in a whole, with women's football team, women's cricket
08:04 team, and rugby in here.
08:05 So in a whole, how good it is to come to India
08:09 and have this excellent run so far?
08:11 And especially, what's the message for box at the finals?
08:14 Yeah, I think that's a good point.
08:16 I think, speaking about now more recently with the box,
08:20 I think their performances have been inspiring.
08:23 Looking at the quarterfinal, how they went about it there.
08:26 Looking at the semifinal as well,
08:28 where they kind of came out of nowhere
08:30 and won it for the team.
08:32 I think that was quite inspiring and motivating for us
08:34 as players to see how guys never gave up.
08:39 There was a strong sense of desperation
08:42 to really get the win.
08:43 And I think that's something that we can really,
08:45 as a Proteus team, we can really take on board and make
08:48 that a part of our DNA, our makeup as a team.
08:54 I think all the momentum within the sport
08:56 was started by the women in the start of the year,
08:59 them getting into the final.
09:00 And I think it's been a bit of pressure for us
09:04 as the Proteus to keep that momentum going.
09:06 I think we're doing well so far.
09:09 But yeah, we'll take the inspiration and motivation
09:12 from all those performances from our other national teams.
09:16 And what is the message for the box this time?
09:19 Message for the box, we'll obviously
09:21 be watching tomorrow.
09:23 We'll be watching with our beers in hand.
09:26 All the best.
09:28 You guys have done us proud.
09:30 And I know you guys will do us even more proud
09:32 by lifting the trophy.
09:34 Temba, a little while ago, you spoke about Marco Jansen.
09:39 And some of his success has also been
09:42 down to the kind of fields you've set for him, you,
09:45 and Hayden in the other game.
09:49 You know, like getting a guy caught at leg slip.
09:53 And then today, you had this sort of wide slip,
09:55 gully for both him and for Lungi.
09:58 Could you talk about your thoughts
10:00 behind some of those fields, I think?
10:03 Yeah, so I think up front with Marco, like I said,
10:05 we're always looking for him to swing the ball both ways.
10:09 I think we've identified that the ball up front,
10:12 it doesn't really go square of the wicket a lot.
10:15 So we thought instead of two slips
10:18 behind with the right hand, or rather have one
10:20 and one with the leg slip.
10:22 That's obviously worked.
10:24 And I think it puts something at the back of the batter's hands.
10:27 I mean, the batter's mind.
10:29 So I think with the left hand,
10:30 he's probably always going to go two slips.
10:32 And if it's not swinging, we'll always go the gully.
10:37 We felt this wicket, there was a little bit of bounce.
10:39 And obviously, Marco being 10 foot, whatever he is,
10:43 he's always going to exploit that.
10:45 But yeah, we plan for these things.
10:47 Sometimes they come off.
10:48 Sometimes they don't.
10:49 And when they don't, you look like you
10:52 don't know what you're doing.
10:53 So it's been a good run for Marco.
10:57 It's been a good run for us as the strategic team
11:01 as well in terms of our planning.
11:02 And yeah.
11:03 Teba, you said that there were loads of opinions flying around
11:09 about what you guys should be doing.
11:10 I was just wondering who was saying what
11:13 and who was shouting just smack it for six
11:16 or what was those conversations?
11:18 I won't say who the names were.
11:20 But I think, yeah, at one point, I think Kes was 2 of 16.
11:24 And some people felt that that's probably not what
11:28 you want in that situation.
11:31 We know Kes is a guy that always goes the positive route,
11:36 always looks to play his shots.
11:38 He was much more subdued today in that situation.
11:42 So I guess there was almost that desire and encouragement
11:46 from the guys for him to keep going with that.
11:50 It's obviously hard when you're in there in the moment.
11:53 It's easier for us on the outside.
11:56 But yeah, there were opinions all coming from a good place.
12:00 From a good place.
12:02 Great.
12:02 Thank you very much.
12:03 Thank you.
12:04 Thank you.
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