Why Jurrien Timber To Arsenal Shouldn't Work....But Does

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Arsenal look to have secured another major summer transfer, with Dutch defender Jurrien Timber arriving from Ajax. However, the Gunners have moved for Timber when a host of Europe's top clubs have been hesitant to, so what exactly has Mikel Arteta seen that others haven't?
Transcript
00:00 *Intro*
00:03 Hello there, bonjour, arrivederci and hallo as they say in Dutch.
00:07 Adam Clear here from 442 and what are we talking about today?
00:10 Durian Timber.
00:11 According to the latest Ornstein Bomba on Twitter,
00:14 Arsenal have finally agreed a fee with Ajax,
00:16 it's between like 50 and 60 million pounds
00:18 and he will be their latest signing.
00:20 And that, oh okay.
00:22 See the thing is, I really, really like Durian Timber,
00:25 but that is because I love chaos.
00:27 And that's why this is a transfer for Arsenal
00:29 that has the potential to be an absolute masterstroke
00:32 but also at the same time could go quite spectacularly, comically wrong.
00:37 Let me show you.
00:38 *Ding*
00:40 Alright, so before we start I'm going to make two presumptions here.
00:42 The first is that you're probably an Arsenal fan who's curious about this
00:45 and even if you're not, you're sort of familiar with how they've been playing last season
00:48 so I'm not going to get bogged down in the details of their current system.
00:52 And two is that if the Durian Timber tree falling in the woods jokes were ever funny,
00:56 you've already heard five or six of them and they've gotten the paltry laughs out of you
01:00 that we're going to get, so we won't be making any of those.
01:02 It'll just be... *Screams*
01:05 Sorry, I just needed to get that out of my system.
01:07 Anyway, this was Arsenal last season.
01:09 This is the set-up that took them almost to the cusp of winning the Premier League,
01:12 Arteta's 4-2-3-1.
01:14 But of course, as you're no doubt probably aware by now,
01:16 it wasn't really a 4-2-3-1, was it?
01:18 Arsenal were one of these teams that had one of these box midfields
01:20 and second only to Man City I would argue,
01:23 they were the best in the league at it.
01:25 So what that worked was when they were in possession,
01:26 Xhaka would push up into attacking midfield alongside Odegaard,
01:29 leaving this space here.
01:31 Sinchenko would come across, he would invert,
01:33 which just means playing on the inside when you might be playing on the outside.
01:36 He'd come across to be the other one in the double pivot
01:38 and the defence would shuffle around into a back three.
01:41 Box midfield.
01:43 And of course, the reasons teams do this is because most other sides
01:45 have like three players in central midfield
01:47 and this allows you to get a numerical advantage of having four players there
01:51 without having to just play four players in central midfield.
01:54 Because then that'd be rubbish.
01:55 You've still got a degree of width provided by your attackers
01:57 and your outside centre backs.
01:58 Then you've got two lads here who can sort of get involved with the defending
02:01 and two more lads here who can get involved in the attacking.
02:04 So it's concentrated, but it's still flexible.
02:06 Now, frankly, none of us know how any team is going to play next season.
02:10 You can have the best formation, the best system, the best tactics in the world,
02:13 but then you get into pre-season, you make some signings
02:15 and you change everything completely.
02:17 But Arsenal do seem pretty set based on the players they're buying
02:21 that they're going to want to stick with this.
02:23 And that's because the players they've already signed look like really natural,
02:26 almost perfect upgrades on the players already in this system.
02:30 Granachaka, for example, did an excellent job in this system,
02:33 but he was very much just doing a job.
02:35 He didn't really provide the level of attacking threat you would want
02:37 from a forward-looking number eight.
02:39 So getting Kai Havertz in gives you that.
02:41 And the reason you can afford to have a far more creative,
02:44 far more attacking, less sort of defensively minded player in that role
02:47 is because you get Declan Rice in instead of Thomas Pardy.
02:50 So you can do the heavy lifting of pretty much two players in that role,
02:54 so you can be a bit more fun,
02:55 which is what makes Jurrien Timber such a curious sign-in.
02:59 Because if you look at this, this is how Arsenal are going to want to be doing
03:01 the majority of their attacking.
03:03 And obviously for a team at the top end of the league,
03:04 the majority of your attacking is the majority of your football.
03:07 He doesn't really seem to be a natural fit anywhere.
03:10 But before we solve this particular riddle,
03:12 let's have a look at who Jurrien Timber is, if you're not familiar.
03:15 So basically, he's a 22-year-old Dutch centre-back currently playing at Ajax
03:19 who is hotly thought of across Europe,
03:22 but nobody else is currently going in for
03:24 because while there are several positives to his potentially being a Premier League footballer,
03:29 there are also several fairly obvious drawbacks.
03:32 Chief amongst them is his physical stature.
03:34 He gets a lot of comparisons to Lissandro Martinez
03:36 because while he's very, very good on the ball, he's not very big.
03:39 Somewhere between about 5'9" and 5'10",
03:41 which does actually make him taller than Martinez,
03:43 but crucially, he isn't anywhere near as...
03:46 What's the right word to use for this?
03:48 F***ing insane.
03:49 Like, Martinez gets away with being that tall in the Premier League
03:51 and resoundingly shut Jamie Carragher up
03:53 because he's just absolutely bananas.
03:56 He'll go for every ball, he'll win every header
03:58 because he doesn't care how tall you are.
04:00 He's bigger in his head.
04:01 And Timber doesn't have that.
04:02 He doesn't have that sort of physical confidence about himself.
04:05 He loses headers he should probably win
04:07 because he's just reserved about going up for them.
04:10 Timber is somebody who you can target and you'll probably beat.
04:13 The main advantage to him, though, is his on-the-ball ability.
04:16 Like, he's fantastic with the ball at his feet.
04:18 Now, if I just flash up these numbers here,
04:20 wow, that's not him in comparison to the Eredivisie.
04:22 That's him compared against the top five leagues,
04:25 Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, all the big ones.
04:28 That's how he ranks compared to them.
04:30 You would not be wrong in looking at that and thinking,
04:33 "This is the best ball-playing centre-back in Europe, surely."
04:37 Thing is, those stats are quite misleading.
04:39 Pythagoras in Boots did a fantastic video
04:42 on how these numbers are largely very inflated
04:45 because of how conservative he is with the ball at his feet.
04:48 Like, from a technical standpoint, he is absolutely fantastic,
04:51 but again, he has this almost psychological reservation
04:55 about taking too many risks.
04:57 He doesn't play low-percentage passes because he doesn't want to give the ball away.
05:00 He plays sideways, he plays back, he gives the ball where he knows it's going to be safe.
05:04 And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
05:06 You don't want a centre-back who takes far too many risks,
05:08 but when you are as good on the ball as he is,
05:11 that kind of feels like a total waste.
05:13 If you just look at this clip here,
05:15 that's unbelievable play in the final.
05:17 That's genuinely amazing.
05:19 You would never believe that's the same player who made this decision.
05:22 It's kind of weird, actually.
05:23 It does sort of feel like when he gets out of his defensive third,
05:26 when there's not as much peril to losing the ball,
05:28 a weight comes off and this barrier is lifted.
05:31 He's got, I think, the highest number of passes into the final third
05:35 of any defender across the top five leagues and his league.
05:40 He also carries the ball exceptionally well.
05:42 A lot of progressive carries from centre-back are mind-boggling.
05:45 And in the tackle, there's no way you can inflate those numbers.
05:48 He genuinely is one of the best ball winners in the world.
05:51 Now, of course, all of this has to be caveated with the fact the guy is 22.
05:55 You know, he's still developing as a footballer.
05:57 Any one of these attributes can improve or decrease over time
06:00 depending on the coaching he gets or the situations he finds himself in.
06:03 It's all still a play for.
06:04 But purely in terms of the raw ingredients and what we've seen of him so far as a footballer,
06:09 he's a really weird purchase for a Premier League team.
06:11 While he's excellent on the ball and great in the tackle,
06:13 he lacks all of the other physical attributes you would want out of a Premier League centre-back.
06:17 He's not particularly strong. He's not particularly good in the air.
06:20 He's something that would be targeted by other teams, so you wouldn't buy him to play him there.
06:24 And while he's great at carrying the ball and can play on the right-hand side,
06:26 he doesn't really have any long passing ability.
06:28 He can't go past players, so you wouldn't want to play him as a right-back either.
06:32 So then why does Mikel Arteta want to spend that much money on him?
06:35 What does he think he's identified here that other managers across Europe haven't?
06:39 I'll tell you, it's this system.
06:42 His unique combination of attributes doesn't just mean he would fit into this system really well,
06:46 inverting from right-back into the centre of the pitch.
06:49 It also means Arsenal would be able to do something with this system that Man City currently can't.
06:55 So I'll just, look, I'll reset this and I'll put it to you this way, right?
06:58 Let's say Arsenal do exactly what they did last season and they want to play their 4-2-3-1.
07:03 Now we know what happened last season was Zinchenko came across from that side,
07:06 he played in the middle, but ultimately he's not particularly great at that.
07:10 He wants to be doing his best work out wide, he's just doing a job there.
07:13 So instead, what Arsenal could do is they could play Kieran Tierney at left-back,
07:17 because he's fine to play at a four, he can get up and down the wing,
07:19 but as we've seen for Scotland, he's really comfortable as a left-sided centre-back in a three.
07:23 So what they'd then do, and let's just presume they've got Declan Rice at this stage,
07:26 is you could have one of these midfielders push up, probably have it,
07:28 Rice leaves a little bit of room, and then it's Timber who inverts across.
07:32 The back fours know a back three, they all shuffle across,
07:34 and all of a sudden you've got three incredibly comfortable centre-backs in that position.
07:37 You've got Tierney, you've got Gabriel, you've got Saliva.
07:39 But now what you've got here, instead of Zinchenko, who's just sort of filling in,
07:43 doing a job, recycling possession, trying to be alive to the danger,
07:46 is someone who is defensively absolutely excellent,
07:48 but can also play really well in tight, intricate situations,
07:52 and if he does get into the final third, seems to come alive with the ball he's able to play.
07:56 He's much better able to then cover for, let's say, Declan Rice,
07:59 if he decides to move up and get involved with the play, because he likes to carry the ball.
08:02 If he does that, Timber is used and accustomed to defending central spaces,
08:06 far more than Zinchenko is, so he even allows you to go that gung-ho with it.
08:10 Now that is an improvement on the system Arsenal already currently play,
08:13 but what it would enable them to do, which Manchester City currently can't, is this.
08:18 Sometime, probably in the next season, teams are going to come up with a,
08:21 not a guaranteed counter, but certainly a system which offsets how good that box midfield is.
08:26 They're going to come up with strategies to deal with it,
08:28 and it's almost certainly going to be something that targets the player
08:30 who is doing the inverting, the player who is forming the box.
08:33 They'll either mark him out of the game, or they'll put somebody up,
08:36 they'll do something that'll stop him doing that.
08:38 And what Arsenal, with Timber on the side, would actually have the ability to do,
08:42 is change the way they invert mid-game.
08:45 So you've got Timber on the side because he'd be really, really good in this box midfield,
08:48 but he's also, naturally at heart, a centre-back.
08:50 So if you've got Zinchenko, or you could even try doing it with Tieny,
08:53 you can still have the two players push up into the eights,
08:56 you can still have Declan Rice leave a bit of room,
08:58 but now you bring the other player across,
09:00 you completely change the way you form in the box,
09:02 these three shuffle over, and again, what have you got?
09:04 Three natural, really solid centre-backs.
09:07 Now whether Arteta's comfortable allowing Tieny to be the player to do this,
09:10 I think he would probably be pretty good at that,
09:12 although he's not really been tested too much,
09:14 but it would give you the option of just subbing him off for Zinchenko
09:17 and allowing him to do that.
09:18 So you've got a way, mid-game, that you completely change the way you form this build-up.
09:22 And that could be an absolutely enormous tactical advantage,
09:25 to be giving your team mid-game.
09:28 Like I talked about this in the Newcastle video,
09:29 it's all well and good being able to fix problems on the training ground,
09:33 but the ability to fix them on the pitch is so much more valuable.
09:36 And thus, in Timber, Arsenal could have a player that fits in perfectly
09:40 with several different things they could do in the same game.
09:43 And that's like all you're ever really trying to do
09:46 when you sign a footballer for your team.
09:48 Like, have you got a way of using them in your system
09:50 that will maximise the stuff they're good at,
09:52 which in Timber's case is getting on the ball,
09:54 helping with the build-up, winning ground tackles in central areas,
09:57 but also cover for the stuff they're not good at,
10:00 which in Timber's case is kind of getting exploited in central defence,
10:03 because he's maybe physically not as big or not as strong as defenders need to be.
10:07 And, yeah, they do.
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