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00:00 - But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
00:02 but you have, but you have, but, but, but, but, but, but,
00:04 - One of the worst!
00:05 - No, no, fine, but maybe slightly forgettable
00:09 was what I was going for.
00:10 - Hello, and welcome to No Holds Bored,
00:14 our weekly show where we play board games
00:18 leading up to QuizzleMania,
00:19 which is gonna be on June 28th.
00:21 Every week we're gonna play a board game.
00:22 This time we're playing Wavelength.
00:24 I'm playing it with Tempest.
00:25 - Hello.
00:26 - I'm playing it with Dan.
00:27 - Hello, hi.
00:28 - I'm playing with Sullivan.
00:29 - Hello, Oli.
00:30 - Sup.
00:31 - And Luke.
00:31 - Hello there.
00:32 - So if you haven't played Wavelength before,
00:34 we are going to be put into two teams
00:36 and then we will be given a range.
00:39 For example, best match, worst match.
00:43 One of the people on each team
00:45 will be classified as the clue giver
00:47 and they will secretly look at this little dial.
00:49 That shows you where all the points are.
00:53 So in this case, the middle of the wedge is worth four points
00:56 the next row out is worth three,
00:58 then two, and then finally, this is worth no points.
01:03 Then they're gonna close this up
01:04 and give a clue to their team.
01:07 Best match, worst match,
01:08 in order to get them to basically be around here.
01:13 And once they've given their clue,
01:14 the team will discuss and aim this
01:16 where they think the center of the points are
01:19 and then it will be revealed.
01:20 Simple as that.
01:21 The first team to reach 10 points wins.
01:24 But what are the teams?
01:25 We're gonna find out with a random dice generator.
01:28 You're gonna just click the thing roll dice.
01:30 We're gonna have team odd versus team even.
01:34 We'll start with you Tempest,
01:35 please shift the roll dice button.
01:36 - So cinematic.
01:38 - Yeah.
01:38 - That is a three.
01:40 Team odd.
01:41 - I am odd.
01:42 - It's another three.
01:43 Team odd, roll again.
01:46 - Got three.
01:47 - It's a one.
01:48 - Oh. - There you go.
01:49 There you go, everybody.
01:51 - What a gimmick to your team pool.
01:53 - Jesus Christ.
01:54 Do you mind popping that away?
01:56 - Can do. - Thank you.
01:58 - They're just starting to add members
01:59 to the role play now.
02:00 It's gonna be, the gimmick's gonna be over soon.
02:01 - We have team NWO versus team NWO 2000.
02:05 (laughing)
02:06 - Sweet, we get Jeff Jarrett.
02:08 (laughing)
02:10 - So we have great title belt design.
02:14 - Oh God.
02:15 - Versus bad title belt design.
02:17 - How topical and how unfortunate for you both
02:19 that I'm on this team.
02:21 (laughing)
02:22 - I am.
02:23 - The only person who likes
02:23 the new World Heavyweight Championship.
02:25 - I have some opinion.
02:26 - I remember watching the Orton Foley match upstairs
02:30 and Orton walks out with his Intercontinental title belt
02:32 and Terry just goes, "That is so ugly."
02:35 - The classic sausage.
02:36 - We were like, "What?"
02:38 - What it was about.
02:39 - It was an insane thing to say.
02:40 - Yeah.
02:41 (laughing)
02:42 - Time stopped.
02:43 (laughing)
02:45 - Anyway, so I randomize this.
02:47 I'm gonna do that, that, that, that, that, that.
02:51 And I get to look at this secretly.
02:54 - Secrets.
02:56 - What was your favorite title, Tempest, ever?
02:59 - Probably the IWGP Heavyweight.
03:01 - Of course it is.
03:02 (laughing)
03:04 - I like the white strip.
03:06 - You can all look.
03:07 (laughing)
03:09 - Great title belt design.
03:11 - Bad title belt design.
03:13 - Okay, my clue for you is
03:18 the WWE
03:25 Women's Championship.
03:27 - Current or previous?
03:29 - The WWE Women's Championship.
03:34 - He's not specifying Raw or SmackDown.
03:36 - Well, 'cause the Raw belt was the women's belt
03:39 for a minute, that's why I was asking for the,
03:41 but I'm assuming that means the one that Layla had.
03:45 - Maybe.
03:46 - Classically.
03:46 - He might just be meaning the regular belt,
03:51 but white and red and white and blue.
03:54 - Um, okay.
03:56 Okay.
03:58 - I don't think he liked them.
04:00 - I don't think that it is going to be on the good side.
04:05 - No, no, no.
04:06 - There are good belts that you can put there
04:08 that would be better clues.
04:09 - I have fondness for the 2000s,
04:13 the like, Ashton era women's belt,
04:15 but it wasn't nice.
04:17 Like it wasn't well.
04:18 - It's fine.
04:19 - Yeah, it's like not special,
04:21 but I don't think it's awful.
04:23 So like I'm going with like here.
04:28 - I...
04:30 - Is this bad or good bad?
04:32 - Good, bad.
04:33 - Okay, maybe like here.
04:35 - I was gonna say somewhere around there,
04:38 maybe like one more notch towards good,
04:40 but what do you think?
04:44 - I'm worried that's maybe too, yeah, yeah.
04:48 Let's just go with it.
04:48 - 'Cause there are some really horrendous belts.
04:50 - Oh, there are some really very bad belts.
04:52 - Yeah.
04:52 - Yeah.
04:53 - Unless by virtue of us all agreeing, it's fine.
04:58 It's just in the middle.
04:58 We'll go with that.
04:59 - Yeah, I think we'll lock that in.
05:01 - Locked in.
05:02 Now you guys get to bet.
05:04 If obviously when we reveal this,
05:07 if we have points, we'll just get that number of points,
05:09 but you get a chance to win one point by answering,
05:12 do you think the center of the points
05:15 is more to the right or more to the left
05:18 than what these chuckleheads have chosen?
05:21 - So we think it's probably the Attitude Era one
05:23 that he's referring to.
05:24 - Yeah, with the red women's.
05:26 - So I think they are on the right side of good and bad.
05:30 I don't know, I should be honest.
05:33 - Yeah, close.
05:35 - I think we're best off going right.
05:37 - Because there's more option for us to be.
05:39 - And ultimately I wouldn't be surprised
05:40 if there was a thing like it is just fine.
05:43 - Yeah, it's just bang in the middle.
05:44 'Cause it's not a bad belt.
05:45 - No, no, it's absolutely fine.
05:47 I would put it in the middle.
05:48 Yeah, more this way.
05:49 - More towards good.
05:51 - More towards good.
05:52 All right, so you've bet there.
05:53 Basically that's what that little token means.
05:55 I can now reveal, first of all,
05:58 I can reveal I was talking about that women's championship.
06:00 - Okay, fine.
06:01 - Oh, idiots.
06:02 - Oh.
06:04 - Oh.
06:05 - Oh.
06:06 - Oh.
06:06 - Oh.
06:07 - Oh.
06:08 - So close.
06:09 That is in two, I'm afraid.
06:11 - Yeah.
06:11 - So one point for you guys and two points for us.
06:14 - But we do get two points.
06:16 - Yeah.
06:16 - Don't steal our points.
06:18 I think we did quite well.
06:19 - Yeah.
06:19 (laughing)
06:21 - Your reasoning was bang on pretty much.
06:23 - Yeah.
06:24 - Like it's, you can't really call it good.
06:27 - No.
06:28 - But it's a damn sight better than most things.
06:30 And it's generally fondly regarded,
06:33 especially compared to like today.
06:34 Sullivan.
06:35 - So we've got best Royal Rumble surprise,
06:38 worst Royal Rumble surprise.
06:39 - Oh.
06:40 - How many spins would you like?
06:42 - Three, please.
06:42 - All right, now you look at that.
06:47 See what we've got.
06:47 - Yeah, we can't look at that.
06:48 - We can't look at it.
06:49 - No one can look at it apart from Sully look at it.
06:53 - What's your favorite Royal Rumble there, Tempest?
06:55 - Favorite Rumble?
06:56 - You need to be careful.
06:57 You're giving Sully potential answers here.
06:59 - That's true.
07:00 - Okay.
07:02 - I just was trying to make it so it's in Japanese again.
07:04 (laughing)
07:06 - I have looked.
07:08 - Can we look?
07:09 - Yes.
07:10 - It's really hard.
07:11 - That is a tough one.
07:12 - Yeah.
07:13 - Poke a face at Sullivan.
07:14 - Just the one I'll do.
07:19 (laughing)
07:20 - Per the rules of the game.
07:22 - Well, you can see that you could argue
07:23 that the matter of the game is if someone says
07:26 this is really hard, that means it's in the middle.
07:29 - Ah, yes, you could say that.
07:31 - Oh, thanks.
07:32 - Because if someone immediately just goes
07:34 best one or the worst one.
07:35 - Or it's Sullivan and he can't think of any
07:39 Royal Rumble surprises.
07:40 (laughing)
07:41 - I'm pretty sure Sullivan can think of a bad one
07:43 and a good one.
07:43 - Yeah.
07:46 - John Cena, MSG.
07:50 - So that's correct.
07:51 - That's a big return after he came back early
07:54 from injury.
07:54 - Yeah, that's a big one.
07:55 - The first Super Cena.
07:56 - Yeah.
07:57 - It was such a good surprise,
07:59 even the people that hated him cheered him.
08:01 - Bang on the banana.
08:02 - Because they forgot for about three minutes.
08:05 - Yeah.
08:05 - Then they started doing it again.
08:06 - Yeah.
08:07 - Is it the best?
08:08 What's the best ever?
08:10 - Drew Carey.
08:11 (laughing)
08:13 - It wasn't a surprise.
08:13 - NWO 2000.
08:15 - They say he's gonna be in it.
08:17 (laughing)
08:18 Like, it's the first backstage segment of the show.
08:21 - Still a surprise for me, damn it.
08:22 (laughing)
08:23 - Yeah, no one thought it was real.
08:25 - We don't.
08:25 - I was like, no, surely Headbanger Mosh will be there.
08:28 - Is it best that way?
08:30 - Best that way.
08:31 - So I would put it, you know, you've got Edge as well.
08:34 Was a big surprise, but.
08:35 - Christian in the, 'cause everyone thought he'd retired.
08:38 - Yeah, but that's a little bit below Edge, I'd say.
08:41 And then Cena is.
08:42 - Oh yeah, oh, I see what you're,
08:43 I thought you were talking about the other Edge.
08:45 - I'm just trying to think of the best.
08:47 Oh yeah, I'm thinking 20, what?
08:49 - 2020. - 2021, yeah.
08:50 - Over there, definitely.
08:53 - Yeah, so okay, so if we're saying then,
08:55 if this is like Edge,
08:57 do you go sort of here-ish?
09:00 - No, I think it's, I don't think there's much in it.
09:02 Like in my head, I can't separate
09:04 much between Cena and Edge.
09:07 Like maybe even Cena's better.
09:08 - But I think you're right.
09:09 - I would say that.
09:11 I would say that.
09:12 They're gonna bet this way.
09:14 - Yeah.
09:15 - But do you wanna bring it a bit more towards?
09:18 - I'd almost just go one more notch up.
09:20 - Yeah, I'm happy with that.
09:22 That's compromise.
09:23 We're a team.
09:24 - Fair enough, yeah. - Any more?
09:25 - Lock it in.
09:26 - Locked.
09:27 - They're locked in.
09:27 I mean, we're going right.
09:30 - Yeah, 'cause for me, it's the,
09:32 but I don't know, it's Edge is number one,
09:35 the Cena pop is number two.
09:36 - I think, this is just me thinking Sully.
09:39 I think it's definitely on the good side,
09:41 but I think Sully is maybe like,
09:42 who do people not like John Cena?
09:45 I reckon it's like here.
09:46 - I think it's to the right, yeah.
09:49 - But I think, I mean, there's no, yeah.
09:50 We're going right.
09:51 - We'll take the field.
09:53 - Yes, yeah.
09:54 - So we're going camera right.
09:56 Three, two, one.
09:59 (all exclaiming)
10:01 - Should have gone that bit more.
10:03 - Well done, well done.
10:04 No, your logic was great.
10:05 To be honest, that is probably actually rare
10:08 of where I'd actually put the John Cena return.
10:10 - Wow. - Where you would put it.
10:12 - But it was so hard to find one that is one notch up
10:15 from that.
10:16 So I was like, okay, fine.
10:17 I'll just go for that.
10:18 - Yeah, three points.
10:19 - One, two, three.
10:20 And we get one point.
10:22 - I'm happy with that.
10:23 - Oh, it's four, three.
10:24 Dan.
10:26 - Okay.
10:26 - This is for you.
10:27 Your range is going to be.
10:29 - I wanted to read.
10:30 My special day.
10:33 (all laughing)
10:37 - That was a bit.
10:38 Great WrestleMania, bad WrestleMania.
10:40 - Oh, a good parameter.
10:41 - I'm gonna rely on you.
10:42 - Or that.
10:43 - I'm gonna rely on you.
10:44 - Do what?
10:44 This one.
10:45 Have a little go.
10:46 - I don't remember the numbers.
10:47 - I'm gonna rely on Luke.
10:48 (laughing)
10:49 - Great.
10:49 - All right.
10:50 - That's how this team works.
10:51 (laughing)
10:54 - I'm sure Tempest has got some dicey thoughts on this.
10:58 - Okay, so great to the left, bad to the right.
11:01 (laughing)
11:02 - Great is left, bad is right.
11:05 - Okay.
11:06 - If the first thing you said is great,
11:07 that means it's on the left.
11:08 - Great was made by the man.
11:09 (humming)
11:11 - Oh yeah, you've got your partners here,
11:14 people with some very big opinions on WrestleManias.
11:17 - And they know every single one of them.
11:20 - I mean, so do you.
11:21 You named every single WrestleMania main event.
11:23 - I did, did I?
11:24 I'm actually really good at this.
11:25 (laughing)
11:27 Okay.
11:28 - Have you seen where the points are so we can stop?
11:29 - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
11:30 - Okay.
11:31 - I'm going to say
11:37 WrestleMania
11:38 19.
11:48 - I mean, WrestleMania 19 is, I think, generally speaking,
11:55 regardless of second greatest WrestleMania.
11:58 - It's two or three at this point.
12:00 - Yeah.
12:01 I think somehow we've miraculously ended up
12:03 in this zone for a second time.
12:06 Because WrestleMania X-7 is,
12:08 if we're just talking like group think,
12:11 WrestleMania is here.
12:12 So WrestleMania 19 is like there at the very most,
12:17 but I actually think it's like there.
12:20 - Yeah, I think it's about there,
12:22 like one notch away from best.
12:25 - What do we think about Dan?
12:26 Without looking at Dan's face,
12:28 'cause we're the list men.
12:32 We know that WrestleMania 19 is top three
12:34 because it's in every single WrestleMania list.
12:37 WrestleMania 19 is top three.
12:39 Do we think Dan feels that way?
12:39 - I feel like that is also in the court of public opinion.
12:43 I feel like WrestleMania 19 is very highly regarded.
12:48 I would think also by Dan.
12:50 - Do you think here or?
12:55 - It's one or two.
12:56 If I was pushed, I could potentially seeing us
12:59 putting it up maybe one more notch,
13:01 but I think it's.
13:04 - How's that grabby?
13:05 - I think that works.
13:06 I think that's fine.
13:07 - If we're in the three
13:08 and I've been booted out of the four,
13:09 you have my apology.
13:11 Let's lock that in.
13:14 - Before we debate this,
13:15 should we just acknowledge these two are now called
13:17 the list men.
13:18 (laughing)
13:20 - Like Tom and Greg in succession.
13:24 We are the list boys.
13:25 (laughing)
13:27 - I mean, we've got it the other way, right?
13:28 - Yeah, we've got it.
13:29 - Unless the four is a little bit,
13:32 can I actually see exactly where that is?
13:35 - I wonder if Dan Layton,
13:41 beautiful, wonderful Dan Layton
13:44 has misremembered that WrestleMania 19
13:46 is considered to be one of the best ones.
13:49 Like me, thought it was one of the ones that's fine
13:52 because they've only seen it once or twice.
13:56 And there are other probably more recent
13:59 WrestleManias that have overtaken it.
14:00 So I think it is probably more this way.
14:06 And I actually wonder if it's almost bang in the middle.
14:09 - You were bang on the money last time.
14:10 So let's go with that, shall we?
14:12 - Now before you reveal it.
14:16 (laughing)
14:18 - It's a top three WrestleMania.
14:22 That's what the hipsters called
14:23 the best WrestleMania of all time.
14:25 - I'd just like to take this moment to remind you
14:26 of a couple of things.
14:28 Sort of Booker T and Triple H.
14:31 Sort of Matt Hardy was there and there was a bit-
14:33 - What do you mean sort of?
14:35 Matt Hardy was there?
14:36 - I'd like to remind you-
14:37 - V1 Matt Hardy.
14:38 - Like Catgirls were there.
14:40 I like it, but I was trying to do group think.
14:44 - Oh dear, is it on the bad side?
14:45 - It's very bad.
14:46 (screaming)
14:48 - That's a hot take right there.
14:51 - Here's the painful thing.
14:53 That's not how I feel.
14:55 I was trying to go with how you guys would feel.
14:56 - We thought the list men were doing best.
14:58 - They're all about group think.
15:01 - But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
15:04 but you have, but you have-
15:05 - One of the worst.
15:07 - No, no, fine, but maybe slightly forgettable
15:10 was what I was going for.
15:11 - To WrestleMania 25.
15:13 - I like WrestleMania.
15:15 We talked about that earlier on.
15:17 I like WrestleMania 25.
15:19 - That's a little extra point for you guys.
15:21 (cheering)
15:24 - Oli Davis.
15:25 - Oh no, oh no.
15:27 - This is for you.
15:28 - I hate coming up with these prompts.
15:30 - It's very stressful.
15:31 - It's quite hard.
15:32 - 'Cause when you're guessing it's like-
15:34 - Thankfully this doesn't rely on so much knowledge
15:36 of WrestleMania.
15:37 Amazing spot.
15:38 - I've seen them all.
15:39 (laughing)
15:40 - Well that's the problem.
15:41 - I just forgot.
15:42 - They blur a bit, don't they?
15:43 I'm not, I was, I was-
15:44 - They do blur a bit,
15:46 which is why most people mark out like five,
15:50 all time great WrestleManias.
15:53 - I just, again, I just want to highlight.
15:54 Dan's thinking was like,
15:55 yeah, I would have put WrestleMania 15 there.
15:57 - But I said 19.
15:58 (laughing)
16:01 - WrestleMania 19, that's the one with the big boss
16:03 man getting hanged, right?
16:05 - You all whinge about the Triple H and Booker T
16:07 much so much.
16:08 - We do.
16:09 - Okay, so I've got amazing spot on one side
16:13 and terrible spot.
16:14 - Oh my God, that's so hard.
16:16 - That's tough.
16:17 - All right, so please spin this wheel.
16:20 Just give it a spin.
16:23 - There we go.
16:27 - Thank you.
16:28 - You're welcome.
16:28 - Now I reveal it to me.
16:29 - Everyone looks away.
16:30 - Laurie gets to follow Ollie's eye line
16:34 on the inside track.
16:35 - Tell you what, Dan.
16:39 - Yeah?
16:39 - I hate you.
16:40 (laughing)
16:42 - That's fine, I'm going to allow it.
16:44 - Okay, you can open your eyes.
16:46 - I learned which of you today is the evil twin.
16:49 (laughing)
16:52 - Oh, the comments are going to have a fit.
16:53 - Oh, we're here!
16:54 - Oh no!
16:55 - No, you're an innoble.
16:56 - I think I don't know what I'm talking about.
16:58 - I was so nervous for my finger.
17:01 (laughing)
17:03 - I was fine.
17:04 - I've scored the most points so far with my clue.
17:07 - Here's one.
17:09 A Canadian destroyer
17:10 on an indie show.
17:13 - So, he is playing into our previous history with this
17:18 because Ollie and I once went to an independent show
17:22 where in the opening match,
17:23 someone hit a Canadian destroyer on the apron
17:25 and it was a set up for a near fall.
17:27 (laughing)
17:29 - But that's the hardest part.
17:30 - In the opening match.
17:31 - What?
17:32 - Between two people who no one knew.
17:34 - Un-fucking-lievable.
17:36 - That's mental.
17:38 - So I wonder if he's trying to lean me more
17:41 towards the terrible spot
17:43 because that is a bit of a running joke between us
17:45 in terms of that's a bad spot
17:47 where you've seen it in an indie show.
17:48 - I think that's really good logic.
17:49 I'm happy to go with this.
17:50 - But he didn't say specifically that.
17:55 He just said a Canadian destroyer on an independent show.
17:58 So maybe it's not like worst,
18:01 but it is like some notches.
18:03 - It's on the scale of bad.
18:04 - I think it's certainly on the scale of bad.
18:06 I wonder if it is sort of like here-ish.
18:11 - Yeah.
18:11 - I think that he is trying to wavelength to me.
18:16 - That's what he's trying to do.
18:20 - Trying to wavelength to you.
18:22 - I want to wavelength to you.
18:24 (laughing)
18:26 - Careful Sullivan.
18:27 - Bounce time.
18:28 - Is that where you're locking in?
18:32 - I'm happy with that because I think that you will,
18:35 this is.
18:36 - Yeah, I don't think he said that by accident.
18:39 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:40 - He's trying to wavelength to me.
18:41 - Locked in.
18:42 Great, yes?
18:46 - I didn't move.
18:47 - No, I was gonna let that go, but that didn't move.
18:50 - You need to go from the middle bit.
18:51 - Yeah, yeah.
18:52 - I often do need to tickle the middle.
18:54 - Sure.
18:58 - Tickle the middle.
18:59 - Great, that makes all the difference.
19:02 - Are we locked in?
19:03 - Yeah, we're locked in, locked in.
19:04 - I mean, I think left.
19:05 I think what Ollie has done here,
19:07 and admittedly, he's not waved his length at me,
19:10 is I think it's bang fucking in the middle.
19:14 That is the most average fucking spot.
19:16 - Well, basically at an indie show.
19:18 - It's good 'cause it pops the crowd.
19:20 It always does, but it's so fucking bang average.
19:23 That's my thought.
19:23 - That makes sense to me.
19:24 - I definitely think it's more towards middle.
19:27 - I do, their logic is quite sound.
19:30 That irritates me, and yeah, I think you're right.
19:31 Bang average, just everyone will do it.
19:33 - In jokes wise, I think they might have it,
19:36 but I definitely think it's worth going over here.
19:38 - The only thing that I think might go against my logic
19:41 is that it was just broadly independent show,
19:45 not in the opener.
19:46 So you might be on to something.
19:49 - Let's see.
19:50 - Ooh.
19:51 - There you go, bang in the middle.
19:56 - That's so much in.
19:57 - Adam said it perfectly.
19:59 I tried to do a fun spot that everyone likes,
20:02 but it's made a bit repetitive.
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21:00 Okay.
21:02 - We have to stop it. - Bring it back.
21:04 - We could bring it back if we have a sign like theirs,
21:06 a hand sign like theirs.
21:06 We could be a team.
21:07 We could be a team again, can't we?
21:08 - This is our fucking team.
21:09 (all laughing)
21:12 - So we're still in your 19-size finger.
21:14 (all laughing)
21:16 - It's true 'cause the sign was vertical at that one.
21:18 Like this.
21:19 - Tempest for you.
21:21 Bring us home, Tempest.
21:22 - Okay.
21:24 Very interesting because the prompt is
21:28 great debut, awful debut.
21:31 (all exclaiming)
21:33 - All right, so give that a shuffle.
21:36 Shuffle it up real nice.
21:38 All right, everyone close your eyes.
21:42 - All righty.
21:43 - No, I haven't watched the last six episodes.
21:48 - You want that sign?
21:49 - Oh yeah, no, I'm good.
21:50 - Psyching yourself up with personal training.
21:52 - Yep, oh yeah.
21:53 - We'll put that back in the middle.
21:56 - All right, he's got it.
21:57 - We can open?
21:58 - Yep.
21:59 Tempest, would you like to talk to us?
22:01 Would you like a few more minutes?
22:03 - He's got it.
22:04 - He's got it.
22:05 - CM Punk in AEW.
22:08 - Oh, I mean, there's no point even.
22:11 (all laughing)
22:14 - I mean, I assume he's not talking about his debut match.
22:18 I assume he's talking about the debut itself.
22:18 - The moment he came out and everyone was hyped af
22:21 and he was really ready and it had been teased
22:23 for ages and ages and everyone screams their heads off
22:24 and Ollie probably cried.
22:26 - The rest of the AOD team cried.
22:27 - I did, yeah.
22:29 - Yeah, it's one of the top three.
22:32 Everyone agrees.
22:33 Everyone agrees.
22:34 I genuinely can't think of many debuts first.
22:39 I mean, ADSL's at the Royal Rumble.
22:41 - I think you've got like Cole and Bryan.
22:44 - Yeah.
22:45 - Cole and Danielson.
22:45 - Yeah.
22:46 - Might maybe for some go above it.
22:49 Jericho is like famously like vaunted.
22:52 - Oh, when he pulls off his mask.
22:54 - Yeah.
22:55 Oh no, no, when he just literally comes out against The Rock.
22:57 - Oh, that one.
22:58 Oh, got you.
22:59 - You have Brock, people really like,
23:02 but like there's none.
23:04 There's not a lot that's better.
23:04 - I'm just thinking like in terms of like the edging
23:07 that had taken place for about 10 years.
23:09 Like it was, he'd not even been involved in wrestling.
23:11 We thought we were never going to see it again.
23:12 A whole new company comes up.
23:14 He teases, teases, teases, and then walks out in,
23:18 was it in Chicago?
23:19 It was a moment.
23:20 - It was in Chicago.
23:21 - It's the best one of all time.
23:21 - They've got ice cream bars for everyone.
23:22 It made Ollie cry.
23:23 - Yeah.
23:24 - I didn't like it.
23:25 - Ollie cried.
23:26 - There's no video evidence of that.
23:27 - There's Ollie on the moon!
23:30 Oh my God.
23:32 Oh no, what's his face?
23:35 - I mean, like this is as far as we can get
23:38 without getting silly.
23:39 - I just don't think there's any point
23:42 even in considering it not being considered the best.
23:45 - I mean, do you want to go just there?
23:47 - I would be inclined to say,
23:49 with the confidence that Tempest said that,
23:52 unless you want to, I will defer to you
23:54 because famously I do not know jack shit.
23:58 We all saw it.
24:01 - Dan, back yourself.
24:02 (laughing)
24:04 - Skip back about five minutes, everybody.
24:06 - Here's all I'm saying.
24:07 I'm just saying that.
24:08 - Fine, happy to do that.
24:10 I just think there are none better in terms of pure vibes.
24:15 - Now let's remember that when we did this at QuizzleMania,
24:17 Tempest thought that CM Punk versus John Cena
24:20 at Money in the Bank 2011
24:22 was not one of the greatest matches of all time.
24:24 - Don't ever give me shit about WrestleMania 19 ever again.
24:27 - Okay, sir, it wasn't at this end of the fucking line.
24:30 - Hey, it's 75, he's got to be quiet.
24:32 (laughing)
24:32 - I'm allowed to be quiet.
24:33 - You're not allowed to talk.
24:34 - I'm allowed to be quiet.
24:35 - That's 75.
24:36 - I'm not gonna lie to you.
24:38 - That is where I, we're all the way,
24:41 it's the best debut of all time.
24:43 - Do you wanna go back a little bit?
24:43 I think recency bias, sure.
24:48 - Okay, Dan's forcing my hand, we're locking it in.
24:50 - Okay.
24:51 - This is Dan's call.
24:52 The redemption of Daniel J. Layton.
24:54 - So you've gone all the way, have you?
24:55 - I just think when you think about like
24:56 Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, it was exciting
24:59 and it was like, oh, that's different and what's that?
25:01 But in terms of just sheer catharsis,
25:04 punk and AEW, it's gotta be, that's it.
25:06 I'm sorry, that's it.
25:07 - Even though Tempest hates his work,
25:09 especially in WWE, he can at least agree
25:13 that it was one of the greatest debuts ever.
25:15 We're locking it in.
25:16 - I'm in, I'm in.
25:17 (grunting)
25:19 - Now because it's Tempest who's given this clue,
25:22 he'll think Christian's AEW debut.
25:25 (laughing)
25:26 Is the best.
25:28 So maybe it's more, maybe it's more over this way.
25:30 - I mean, we're better off just saying right anyway
25:32 'cause it gives us more.
25:33 I mean, there is probably more to say left though
25:34 than it is literally right.
25:36 (laughing)
25:36 - I think, I don't think.
25:38 - I wouldn't be surprised.
25:38 - Should we go left?
25:39 Should we play, should we go without hearts?
25:40 - Should we go mad?
25:41 - Should we go, oh, should we go?
25:42 - Should we go mad?
25:43 - Should we do it?
25:44 (laughing)
25:45 - I hate this bit.
25:45 - I fucking hate this.
25:46 (laughing)
25:47 - Let's go, let's go left.
25:48 - Here we go.
25:49 - So we're going the other way?
25:50 - You're going left.
25:51 - Yes, you're going far left.
25:51 - No, here we go.
25:52 - Let's go left.
25:53 - The forest disappeared.
25:54 - Oh.
25:55 (screaming)
25:56 - No, we get on, we get on.
25:58 (groaning)
26:00 (laughing)
26:02 - Rubbish compared to me, Joel.
26:06 - Oh, this is so much better.
26:08 - That is the full fact, full four.
26:11 - Well done, sir.
26:12 - Did it.
26:13 - I'm afraid you guys don't get any points
26:14 'cause we were bang on.
26:16 It wasn't further left, it wasn't further right.
26:17 - No, exactly right.
26:18 - Exactly right.
26:19 - So, Luke Owen, shit.
26:21 You can still, you can do it for another four.
26:24 You could bring your team out ahead if you'd like.
26:26 - They've gotta go in hand.
26:28 - It's the, the picture, that's the same.
26:30 - Well, here's the thing.
26:32 Oh, no, you're right.
26:33 'Cause if you got four, you would be getting more than us.
26:35 There is a catch up mechanism in this game,
26:37 which is that if, are you looking, Gronam?
26:40 We'll close our eyes and talk.
26:41 - I haven't looked yet.
26:42 - Okay, but there is a catch up mechanism in this game,
26:45 which is if we were like, say, for example, on three,
26:48 and you were on nine, and we got the full four,
26:52 bringing us up to seven, and we were still less than you,
26:55 we could have another turn.
26:57 It is possible to sort of like, one shot and win.
26:59 You're never completely out of the game.
27:02 But if you get the full four, you're more than us.
27:05 So we will get another turn next go, no matter what.
27:08 - Like, morally and emotionally, you aren't more than us.
27:10 We're all equals here, except, I guess, Ollie.
27:13 But--
27:14 - What, 'cause I'm better?
27:15 - 'Cause you're the boss, but like, yeah.
27:17 - Shit, we were doing quite badly.
27:20 - You've gotta go in hand.
27:22 That's why you're ahead.
27:23 - We'll forget all about that catastrophic choice.
27:27 - What's he counting?
27:28 - So the parameters are, good promo, bad promo.
27:33 Love it, love that.
27:36 CM Punk's return promo at the debut.
27:54 - Well, that was pretty fucking great, no?
27:58 - That was really nice.
27:59 It was a great promo, it was from the heart.
28:02 Didn't build a match.
28:04 - No.
28:04 - Although, did he reference Darby in it?
28:06 I think--
28:07 - There was a bit, 'cause Darby was in the thing, wasn't he?
28:12 - In the rafters?
28:12 - Yeah.
28:13 - I can't remember.
28:14 - Was that on that day?
28:15 - My vision was a little bit blurred on that day.
28:19 - But his vision was blurry.
28:22 - But it isn't the greatest all-time promo.
28:25 It's just really good.
28:26 - No, it's not the one you remember.
28:26 You remember the debut.
28:28 So I'd say it's not flush over there,
28:32 but it's definitely not in the middle.
28:34 So it's probably better than mid of this half.
28:39 So probably there-ish.
28:43 You wanna tweak it?
28:44 - Let's have a little look.
28:45 - It's a bit too far.
28:45 - Yeah, it's a bit too far.
28:46 Just like there.
28:48 - Yeah, I feel good about there.
28:49 - I feel good about there as well.
28:51 - Good?
28:52 - It's very good.
28:54 - Oh, is it a notch better than that?
28:57 I don't know.
28:58 I'm happy with that.
28:59 - Anymore's just fiddling, isn't it?
29:01 - Yeah.
29:02 - It is fiddling.
29:02 - Anymore's just fiddling.
29:04 - Anymore's just fiddling with a knob.
29:05 - 'Cause you haven't fiddled.
29:06 - We've broken their spirits.
29:08 - We have, yeah.
29:10 - I think we're locked in.
29:11 - Locked in, okay.
29:12 - I think personally,
29:13 it's a little bit further towards the middle.
29:16 - I do as well.
29:16 - And I say that because it's not even
29:18 the best CM Punk promo, let alone it being that hard.
29:21 I think there, I couldn't say a single line from it.
29:24 The return.
29:25 - I could literally say,
29:27 you make me feel like Britt Baker in Philadelphia
29:29 or Pittsburgh.
29:30 - Pittsburgh.
29:31 - Pittsburgh.
29:32 - Britsburg.
29:33 - Britsburg.
29:34 Or him shouting Darby Atten.
29:35 That's the only thing I can remember from that promo.
29:39 It's good.
29:40 Everyone felt really great,
29:41 but you cannot remember it.
29:43 - I watch this promo like once a month.
29:46 It makes me feel things.
29:47 I think it's great.
29:50 I would probably put it like halfway
29:52 between upright and the end.
29:54 So still further towards the middle,
29:57 but I do think it is better than it's being given credits.
30:01 - We're all thinking upright.
30:02 - Yeah, that way.
30:03 - We're all thinking further towards bad promo.
30:07 All right.
30:10 They really want four in this.
30:11 And to be honest, you get it.
30:13 - Should we all touch?
30:14 - Touch your tips together.
30:17 Okay, here we go.
30:20 - Oh.
30:21 - Oh.
30:24 - Oh.
30:25 - That was better.
30:26 - You had it, you had it.
30:28 - Wow.
30:29 - Is that a three or a two?
30:30 - That is, I think.
30:32 - That's a two.
30:33 - We're gonna need Laurie.
30:34 - Oh.
30:35 - We're gonna need judge Laurie to come in.
30:36 - I think it's a three, Laurie.
30:39 And I think it's a two.
30:40 And I've had a difficult moment in 6K.
30:43 I think that's a four.
30:45 (laughing)
30:47 - That's a two, mate.
30:48 - Oh.
30:49 - Oh no.
30:50 - I'm devastated about that.
30:51 - Two.
30:52 - I wanna hear Luke's justification.
30:54 - Yeah, the reason why,
30:57 'cause I figured if you were to say pipe bomb,
30:59 that's there.
31:00 - Yeah.
31:01 - But then I thought this one is like
31:02 probably the best other than pipe bomb.
31:04 - Right.
31:05 - Because I think it is a punk promo
31:07 that makes you feel all this.
31:07 - So here's the situation I'm in.
31:09 It is my turn.
31:11 If we get two points.
31:13 So if we score any points, we win.
31:16 And I, with it, I've almost certainly handed it to them.
31:21 - So fuck it up, Adam.
31:22 - So don't fuck it up.
31:23 - Are we even?
31:25 - We are at eight, they are at seven.
31:27 So if they get another go,
31:28 it's not nailed on that they'll win.
31:30 - Right.
31:31 - Why don't we get another go?
31:32 - Because you didn't get the full four.
31:35 If you got the full four,
31:36 and you were still behind us,
31:38 you'd get another go.
31:39 But that wasn't gonna be the case.
31:41 We were always gonna get the second go.
31:42 But it's possible we could miss in time.
31:44 'Cause this one might divide the room.
31:46 Fun hardcore weapon,
31:51 not fun hardcore.
31:52 - Oh.
31:53 - Oh.
31:54 - Fuck.
31:55 - That is a tricky one.
31:56 - That's a big.
31:57 - Curious.
31:58 - Good job, Pete.
31:58 - Good job, Pete.
31:59 - Yeah, you really nailed it.
32:00 - Shut up, Terry.
32:01 - That's really hard, Pete.
32:02 - Shut up, Terry.
32:03 - So brave.
32:04 - Okay.
32:05 - Okay.
32:06 (pencil scratching)
32:08 - Oh, yeah.
32:09 (pencil scratching)
32:12 - Sounds like Terry.
32:13 (laughing)
32:15 (imitating dog barking)
32:17 - Good morning, Terry.
32:19 (imitating dog barking)
32:22 I'll have a tea, please.
32:23 (laughing)
32:25 - Which one is it?
32:26 (laughing)
32:32 - Okay.
32:35 - Can we look?
32:35 - Everyone can look.
32:37 - That was a while.
32:40 - Mm.
32:42 - In your mouth.
32:43 - What happened in there?
32:43 - Mm-hmm.
32:45 - All right.
32:46 For the win.
32:48 A steel chair.
32:50 - Bang in the middle.
32:54 - I think that's bang in the middle.
32:56 - I think so.
32:57 I think that's a lot of fun to be had elsewhere.
32:59 And a lot worse to do than a steel chair.
33:02 - When I think of like a wrestling weapon,
33:04 - Yeah.
33:05 - Like bang, average, right in the middle.
33:08 - When you're average person
33:09 who doesn't watch wrestling thinks of a wrestling weapon,
33:12 they think of a steel chair.
33:13 I think it is pretty much that.
33:16 - I could.
33:17 - Unless it's potentially a little bit boring.
33:22 - Yeah, I could see it being like,
33:24 A, not exciting, and therefore further right.
33:30 I could also see it being like,
33:32 stop fucking hitting each other in the heads.
33:34 That's not fun.
33:35 That makes me go, ooh, cringe.
33:37 Oh, we don't do that anymore.
33:39 - But also everyone loves them
33:40 getting out of steel chair, don't they?
33:42 What do you reckon?
33:45 - I don't know if I'm overthinking it or not.
33:46 - No, you make a good point.
33:48 I just think its existence is so average.
33:52 Do you know what I mean?
33:53 It's the same as like the basic,
33:56 this is your basic thing.
33:58 The same as, what was the,
34:00 it was the indie show, Canadian Destroyer.
34:04 It's bang average.
34:05 - Yeah.
34:06 - But,
34:08 but it's fun, hardcore, and not fun.
34:12 - So like maybe, maybe we go like here.
34:14 Bang average, but slightly more towards the not fun,
34:18 because it's not like, it's not a bowling ball, is it?
34:21 - It is fun.
34:23 - I'm set either in the middle or there.
34:28 What do you think?
34:31 - I think that's good.
34:32 - Yeah?
34:33 Should we lock it in?
34:34 - I think so.
34:35 - Lock it in.
34:37 - We're locking it in.
34:37 - This is tough.
34:38 - It is tough.
34:39 - May we see it more head on, please?
34:41 - Yeah, just slightly up to the not fun side.
34:46 - Well, it's just that the camera needs to see it.
34:47 - We need to see it to play.
34:49 - Just gonna show it there.
34:51 - Okay.
34:52 - And then we can.
34:53 - Because yeah, like I think Dan and Tim
34:54 have sort of nailed on here,
34:55 which is that you will have either got to look at it
34:58 to one of two ways.
34:59 It makes a fun, clattery sound,
35:02 or it makes a brain damage.
35:05 So which side of fun is that?
35:07 - Yeah, but all of them make brain damage
35:09 if you use them that way.
35:10 - But I think the steel chair is more tight to that.
35:13 Like, you know, the unprotected chair shot.
35:16 - If you watch any Harkle match from 2000,
35:19 but even with a stop sign or a cookie sheet or whatever,
35:21 they're just sort of standing there waiting for it
35:23 and they take it.
35:24 - Well, I mean, Ken Sharma could tell you
35:25 that it hit me on the head
35:27 because it's actually the safest part of my head.
35:29 (laughing)
35:30 The head to hit me with, hit me on.
35:32 Which makes me think it's more this way.
35:34 I wonder if Adam is going to be more on the not fun
35:36 'cause it isn't fun and they still use it.
35:40 - Maybe I'm reading Adam wrong.
35:41 I think Adam would look at the steel chair's
35:44 storytelling mechanics or potential
35:48 and aside from tearing open your t-shirt
35:51 to reveal the faction enemy t-shirt,
35:54 a chair shot to the back is the best way to turn heel.
35:57 - Yeah.
35:58 - It's a really good point.
35:59 - Shield breakup.
36:00 - Yeah.
36:01 - Concertos.
36:01 - Sammy and Rove.
36:03 - Yeah, Sammy and Rove.
36:04 - Like these, did you like how Triple H did that
36:07 when he was drafted to Smackdown?
36:09 (laughing)
36:09 - Or when Big Show took off his shirt.
36:11 - I like when Big Show did it for ECW.
36:13 (laughing)
36:15 - I mean, we've got more scope on the going stage.
36:20 - Camera left.
36:21 - Camera left, stage right.
36:23 (laughing)
36:25 - I'm not classically trained.
36:26 (laughing)
36:28 - I think, yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you here.
36:32 - Camera left?
36:33 - Yeah, camera left.
36:34 - Don't leave me hanging.
36:35 - Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
36:37 - Thank you.
36:37 - Oh, you didn't cross?
36:38 - Oh, do I have to?
36:40 - We need one.
36:41 - Are you ready?
36:42 - We need two points.
36:43 - Jazz hands, jazz hands, jazz hands.
36:45 - If we score any points, we win.
36:48 If they are correct here,
36:49 they just need to score any points
36:51 and let's go with that.
36:52 - Oh God, okay.
36:52 (upbeat music)
36:55 - Oh.
36:59 - Oh, I don't like it.
37:01 (gasping)
37:02 - No.
37:03 - Oh.
37:04 - Oh.
37:05 - Oh, it's head on.
37:06 - Oh yes.
37:06 - It's head on.
37:07 - Oh.
37:08 - It's head on.
37:09 - It's gotta go to VAR.
37:10 (laughing)
37:11 - I don't think it's on.
37:12 - You had it, bang, fucking on.
37:14 And you talked yourselves out of it.
37:19 - Laurie, think of the drama.
37:20 - Does that score any points, Laurie?
37:22 Any points and we win.
37:23 I can't believe it's gone down to LAR.
37:25 (laughing)
37:27 - Yeah.
37:30 - That's LAR.
37:31 (laughing)
37:31 - I mean, but he's even dragging it out.
37:34 - Do the TV thing.
37:35 Is he gonna confer with someone else?
37:37 - Yeah, I'm just gonna, I'll bring the desk.
37:39 (laughing)
37:41 - Whatever happens, you have got a point.
37:43 - All right.
37:45 - Laurie, tell us right now if we've just won this game.
37:48 - That is two points.
37:51 (cheering)
37:54 - I think, can we get a close up shot of this
38:00 for the camera?
38:00 - Jesus, yeah.
38:01 - I don't know if that's true.
38:03 - Can we get a zoom on that?
38:05 - It absolutely is.
38:06 - I don't think it is.
38:08 - We are, yeah, we did it.
38:10 - We did it.
38:11 - We all got it, yay.
38:12 - Banzai.
38:15 - Banzai.
38:16 (cheering)
38:20 - Unbelievable, it came down to the most photo
38:25 of photo finishes.
38:26 And you had it directly on the floor as well.
38:30 - Yeah, to explain my reasoning,
38:32 it is the wrestling weapon.
38:35 - Yes.
38:35 - It's everywhere, it's neither good nor bad at this point
38:37 'cause it's just so fucking ubiquitous,
38:39 it makes me feel almost nothing.
38:41 So bang in the middle it goes.
38:43 That has been our incredibly tense game of Wavelength.
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39:10 Three, two, one.
39:11 - Jam that Jam.
39:13 - Come on, boys.
39:14 - Banzai.
39:15 - Banzai.
39:16 - A jam on the board.
39:17 - According to the Royal Rumble,
39:19 by the numbers video package.
39:21 - For 20 long years.
39:25 - How many long years did the warrior?
39:27 (laughing)
39:29 - How many big shows?
39:31 - That's 475 big shows.