八点最热报 | 前卫生部长凯里警告，公务员退休金是一枚定时炸弹。政府去年单单给退休公务员的退休金已经高达300亿令吉，这占了政府年度预算开支的近10%，预计到2030年将达到466亿令吉，因此公务员的退休金制度迫切需要改革，否则这枚定时炸弹随时会爆。（主播：梁宝仪）
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00:04 The former Minister of Health, Kay Lee, warned that the civil service pension is a time bomb.
00:09 The government's pension for civil servants last year was worth 3 billion.
00:14 This accounts for nearly 10% of the government's annual budget.
00:17 The payment of the civil service pension is expected to reach 4.66 billion in 2030.
00:25 Therefore, the pension system of civil servants in our country urgently needs reform.
00:28 Otherwise, this time bomb will explode at any time and is very powerful.
00:33 Professor Lin Fuyan of the University of Beijing, said in an interview that
00:37 the pension system is the worst system left to our country by the UK.
00:42 Only our country is still using this system similar to the system of old rich people.
00:47 Although some people have proposed reforms since the 1980s,
00:51 based on civil servants, it is a huge ticket office.
00:55 Those who raise it last will be beheaded.
00:58 Kay Lee was the first to be promoted in the Gloss Kajal program
01:01 in the United States.
01:04 He did not demand to abolish the current civil service pension system,
01:08 but to implement a new system for civil servants who are going to be hired in the future.
01:12 He suggested that future civil servants should receive public funds,
01:16 not a temporary pension.
01:18 Professor Lin Fuyan of the University of Beijing, said that
01:20 in fact, as early as the 1980s, when our country was facing economic decline,
01:24 the government had already mentioned that the pension system of our country was a burden.
01:29 In the world, only our country still uses this system.
01:33 In academic terms, it is called "non-contributory",
01:36 which is the pension system of non-consumption.
01:39 Employees and the government do not give money, only enjoy it.
01:42 And this mechanism of making money as soon as you have it,
01:47 is a heavy burden on the national finances.
01:50 Unless the old man has always been rich, he can continue such a system.
01:54 But Lin Fuyan pointed out that
01:56 the era of rapid economic growth in our country has passed,
02:00 so now it is necessary to reform.
02:03 But he also believes that it is not as if, as Kerry said,
02:06 the pension system will be changed from a pension system to a public fund system,
02:10 because it is undoubtedly a political suicide.
02:13 A recent analysis by Free Today also mentioned that
02:16 do not underestimate the number of civil servants in Malaysia.
02:19 After retirement, they are the recipients of this pension.
02:22 And this group of people are a huge ticket office in the election.
02:26 Data shows that our country currently has about 1 million retired civil servants,
02:31 plus 700,000 people who are already on the retirement list.
02:34 Therefore, it is difficult for the government to immediately terminate the pension system.
02:39 Datuk Si Ismail Sabri, when he was Prime Minister,
02:44 has given an image that in 2030,
02:47 the pension payment will rise to RM47 billion.
02:52 So I think if we just give a suggestion,
02:56 and do not see that this is a bomb,
03:00 it will really reduce the government's spending.
03:05 Former Minister of Foreign Affairs Kerry
03:06 warned in a broadcast program he hosted,
03:09 "It's time to reform the national civil servant pension system.
03:13 Otherwise, this time bomb will explode at any time."
03:18 For Kerry's warning,
03:19 Professor Lin Fengyan of Peking University's Department of Economics and Economics,
03:21 and financial analyst Huang Kaisheng,
03:23 all agree that
03:24 our national civil servant pension system
03:26 is a free-of-charge system.
03:28 No one pays, just enjoy.
03:30 Just like our unlimited subsidy system,
03:33 it will cause heavy burdens to our national property.
03:36 Everyone does not have to pay,
03:38 and then enjoy it afterwards.
03:39 No one pays,
03:40 and the government does not say how much to pay every month.
03:43 And how much salary does the civil servant deduct every month for this pension?
03:46 Just like our so-called current subsidy system,
03:50 which is an unlimited subsidy system.
03:53 It is a time-bomb.
03:54 This was mentioned a long time ago, in the 1980s.
03:58 10% of the national budget is spent.
04:01 So I think this kind of burden is really serious.
04:04 Just like what Kerry said,
04:05 this is a time bomb.
04:07 Because if it continues like this,
04:10 we don't know when it will explode.
04:12 Strictly speaking,
04:14 we have no idea about the country's development and future.
04:18 Lin Fuyuan pointed out that
04:19 the civil servant pension system in China
04:21 is a legacy left by the UK.
04:23 But nowadays,
04:25 only China is still using this so-called
04:27 old rich system.
04:30 But as the civil servant system becomes larger and larger,
04:33 the economic growth of China is not up to the number of civil servants.
04:36 This system will not last.
04:38 I think only China has
04:40 this so-called old rich system.
04:43 Just like our pension system,
04:45 only China has it.
04:47 Unless China's economic growth
04:49 can grow rapidly,
04:50 China's economic growth
04:52 has already passed.
04:53 So we really need to reform
04:55 this pension system.
04:57 Lin Fuyuan pointed out that
04:58 similar to the pension system in China,
05:00 other countries have implemented it,
05:03 but most of them have already been reformed.
05:05 So China can borrow other people's experience.
05:08 And Wang Kaixuan thinks
05:10 that the EPF subsidy system proposed by Kerry
05:12 may be a more fair and rewarding system.
05:16 We don't want to completely eliminate it.
05:18 We want to replace it.
05:20 I think the easiest and most reasonable way to be replaced
05:24 is the EPF system
05:27 that we have now, except civil servants.
05:30 Because the EPF system
05:31 depends on your reward.
05:34 How many years you serve,
05:36 how much money you give,
05:37 the government will pay you more.
05:39 You have to take responsibility yourself.
05:41 Because retirement is definitely not the government's responsibility.
05:44 But Lin Fuyuan thinks
05:46 that there are a lot of civil servants in China.
05:48 For the people in power,
05:49 it's a big ticket office.
05:51 If the civil servant pension system
05:52 is changed to the private EPF system,
05:55 it is undoubtedly a political suicide.
05:57 But what Kerry suggested
05:59 seems a bit political suicide.
06:01 That is to say,
06:02 it should be changed to the EPF system.
06:04 Because there are too many civil servants in China.
06:06 The risk of getting a ticket is very high.
06:09 This is one of the reasons why the reform was unsuccessful
06:13 in the mid-1980s.
06:14 Because many civil servants think that retirement pension
06:17 is not a kind of privilege,
06:19 but a kind of work,
06:22 like a salary.
06:23 This is what they deserve.
06:24 Lin Fuyuan pointed out that
06:26 because civil servants do not have a private pension,
06:29 and the civil servant pension system is top-notch,
06:32 this is also why civil servants' retirement pension is better than private pension.
06:35 So if you take out this retirement pension,
06:38 it is equivalent to
06:40 reducing the salary of civil servants.
06:42 This will naturally cause a strong rebound in civil servants.
06:45 Therefore, he suggested that
06:46 the reform should focus on
06:48 changing the non-PFP to the EPF system,
06:50 just like the retirement pension system of the armed forces.
06:53 The EPF system of the armed forces
06:55 is the system of PFP.
06:56 That is, the members of the armed forces
06:58 get paid 10% less every month.
07:01 The government gets 15%.
07:03 Of course, I think the government can start from a very low PFP.
07:06 For example, it can start from 5%,
07:09 and then slowly increase,
07:10 because the salary will follow.
07:11 Professor Lin Fuyuan of Peking University Department of Economics pointed out that
07:18 civil servants' salary is generally low,
07:21 so the retirement pension system should not be abolished immediately.
07:25 We can change the non-PFP retirement pension system to PFP,
07:29 which means that no one pays for the month,
07:32 and then retire and get money,
07:33 and change it to PFP every month.
07:36 It can be that the government pays one-sidedly,
07:37 or the government civil servants pay both sides,
07:40 and then this money is taken every month after retirement.
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