The Graham Norton Show S31E01 || The Graham Norton Show Season31 Episode1
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00:00 Tonight we've got it all. Comedy, kitchen drama, kings and queens and Kylie. Say the words Kylie Minogue.
00:05 Let's start the show!
00:07 *Musique*
00:29 Hello everybody!
00:31 *Musique*
00:39 But first, he's a hilarious stand-up who is now bringing his surreal comedy style to his new BBC sitcom Juice.
00:45 Please welcome Mawaan Rizwan!
00:47 *Musique*
00:57 He's a back-to-award-winning comedian and writer, now turned royal historian for his latest book On Rulie.
01:05 It's Mr David Mitchell!
01:07 *Musique*
01:09 Oh, there he is!
01:11 You can wave, you can wave.
01:13 *Musique*
01:15 Have a seat, please.
01:17 He's one of our most compelling actors. The star of This Is England, Gangs Of New York, Lion Of Judy, Matilda and the brilliant restaurant drama Boiling Point.
01:26 Please welcome Stephen Graham!
01:28 *Musique*
01:40 And with 80 million records sold worldwide, this lady is a Grammy-winning pop icon.
01:46 Now releasing their 16th studio album, it's the fabulous Kylie Minogue!
01:52 *Musique*
02:08 Welcome Kylie, with the applause, you couldn't even hear it there, we were playing padam padam.
02:12 *Rires*
02:14 Song Of The Summer, Song Of The Summer. Did all of you, at some point, dance to padam padam this summer?
02:20 I'm looking at you David Mitchell.
02:22 I don't dance, but I would have done.
02:26 He's lying, it's his favourite anthem.
02:28 I saw you backstage.
02:30 You know, by the way, padam is like the international gay mating call now.
02:34 It's just, the gays here are all just like, "Huh? What?"
02:38 New cats.
02:40 Yeah, do you know what you've created? It will last forever.
02:43 Good times?
02:44 Yeah, absolutely.
02:46 Did you learn the dance?
02:48 No.
02:50 Did you learn the dance?
02:52 I watch music videos and then pretend I'm in them.
02:56 Is there a specific dance?
02:58 Yeah, there's the whole, you know, there's the whole padam.
03:00 Oh, he does know it!
03:02 No, don't test me on it.
03:04 I can't do the padam dance at Kylie's.
03:08 Yes, you can.
03:09 This is like a bad dream.
03:11 Come on, come on, show me!
03:13 *Cheers*
03:15 Let's have the music, let's have the music.
03:17 I wish I learned it now.
03:19 We're in the wrong part, let's go.
03:21 Five, six, seven...
03:23 *Music*
03:33 He does know it, he does.
03:35 Well done, well done.
03:37 *Applause*
03:41 I feel it's early in the show for dancing.
03:43 *Laughter*
03:45 I don't know what to do.
03:47 I was sorry, I was just going to have to fake a heart attack.
03:51 *Laughter*
03:53 David knows help is coming.
03:55 Faking a heart attack is the dance for me.
03:57 *Laughter*
03:59 It's a good way of checking your heart.
04:01 And Steven, I know you love Kylie, but someone in your family loves Kylie even more than you.
04:05 Yeah, yeah, my dad.
04:07 Not in like a dangerous way where he'll break into your house.
04:11 It's good that you mentioned that.
04:13 My dad has a healthy obsession, shall we say, with you.
04:16 And my beautiful mother, God rest her soul, you were his only pass, just in case, if it ever happened.
04:22 And now she's gone.
04:24 Alright.
04:26 I'll have her wait.
04:28 Alright, well, lots of love to your dad.
04:32 You're too kind.
04:34 But now, it's not just that song, there are lots of new Kylie songs in the world.
04:38 Because the new album, Tension, is out now.
04:42 Here it is, ladies and gentlemen.
04:44 *Applause*
04:48 It is terrific. It's so earworm-y and dance-y.
04:53 Did you go in with that, was that the specific intention of this album?
04:56 Initially, no.
04:59 Just like a gentle stop for the recording process, see what transpired.
05:04 Then we were looking at a theme, maybe an 80s theme, which wasn't going anywhere.
05:10 And then the turning point was deciding, there's no theme, just go in and have fun.
05:15 Like, have fun. Do whatever you feel like.
05:18 And I think you can hear and sense that kind of liberation on the record.
05:23 So Tension is the album, but it's also the cover.
05:26 So we've got a little clip from the video. Here it is.
05:30 *Music*
05:35 *Music*
05:40 *Music*
05:44 *Music*
05:53 *Music*
06:04 *Music*
06:08 *Applause*
06:17 It's good.
06:19 Thank you.
06:21 Was anyone else here at Shepherd's Bush last night seeing Kylie?
06:27 It was great, wasn't it? It was so, so good.
06:30 What was amazing, I thought, was that you had all these hits.
06:34 And you would kind of think, oh, that's what would drive people crazy.
06:37 But the new stuff was getting the biggest reaction of all.
06:39 I know! It's so invigorating. I'm so thrilled that Padam, Tension and I did a brand new song for that.
06:49 And everyone knew it.
06:51 Everyone knew it. So, yeah, it's super, it's just such an exciting time.
06:55 It's kind of a pinch myself moment.
06:58 Because really, you know, you kind of think if you've been in the business,
07:00 you should just be a legacy artist and just doing, you know, greatest hits and that'll be it.
07:04 But no, it's all about new stuff now. It's great.
07:06 I'm loving it. So thank you for coming last night.
07:08 Well, I didn't pay. Did you pay?
07:10 Oh, OK. You didn't pay me!
07:12 Cursed me for coming.
07:16 But interestingly, you've been in press around this album,
07:19 and you did an interview in Rolling Stone magazine,
07:21 where you were talking about, you know, you were really young,
07:24 and you were talking about how much success hit,
07:28 and the effect that fame had on you,
07:31 and how you look back on it, its effect on you.
07:34 Well, I'm asked a lot these days what would I say to my younger self.
07:39 And I mean, my mind starts racing, I can get quite emotional thinking,
07:44 "What would I...?" I don't think she'd really listen.
07:46 Like, I'm pretty kind of, pretty feisty myself.
07:50 But, yeah, I would have liked to let her know
07:53 that, yeah, every feeling's OK, yeah, it's not easy,
07:56 it's not all water off a duck's back.
07:58 And I think it's good these days that people can talk about,
08:02 you know, especially in our industry, where it's all gloss.
08:05 Well, a lot of it's gloss, but...
08:07 Yeah, I don't really talk about it too much,
08:10 but it's nice to acknowledge that...
08:12 So did young Kylie end up...
08:14 Did she end up in kind of dark places and kind of not enjoying it?
08:17 Yeah, sometimes. And I would turn to my family and just...
08:20 I mean, I don't know how different it would be today with social media
08:25 and, you know, it's really hard to shut yourself off from voices
08:30 and critics and even your own thoughts.
08:33 And, Mawaan, you're the baby on the couch
08:35 and great things are happening for you now.
08:38 And so how are you coping? How do you think you'll cope?
08:41 Like, have people stopped doing the streets and stuff?
08:43 Yeah, you know, man's on the telly box now, isn't he?
08:46 LAUGHTER
08:47 Yeah, there's a few more eyes, but I get really confused,
08:50 cos I don't know if they've seen me on the telly
08:53 or they're checking me out or they're just racist.
08:56 LAUGHTER
08:59 And the look for it, like, the look for all three is exactly the same.
09:03 I wrote a song called Are You Checking Me Out or You're Just a Racist.
09:07 I feel like that should really...
09:09 Your take on it should be like, "Are you checking me out
09:11 "or do you want an autograph?"
09:13 You'll find it strangely relatable, Kylie.
09:15 Is that good? Yeah.
09:17 What if we walked down the street together?
09:19 I don't think anyone will be looking at me.
09:21 LAUGHTER
09:22 I'm OK with that. I'm not so sure about that.
09:25 But what would your advice be? Because it is quite intense, you know.
09:28 You spend all this time, like, trying to do your art form
09:30 and get paid for it, and then you're on the telly
09:32 and it is like a real transition, you know?
09:34 Yeah, it's full-on.
09:35 I guess I've always tried to...
09:37 I don't know, from the way I was raised, like, it's a job.
09:40 I get that it's a job. It becomes a lifestyle.
09:43 Yeah, just...
09:45 Family, friends, people who keep it real.
09:48 Friends. I need to get some of those.
09:50 LAUGHTER
09:51 It's easy to get them now you're famous.
09:53 Yeah. As long as you keep giving them money.
09:55 Yeah, what are you doing after this?
09:57 I'm going to get a bit...
09:59 When it comes to fame,
10:00 not many people get mentioned in Parliament.
10:04 So check this out.
10:05 This is MP Lloyd Russell-Boyle
10:08 talking about Pride Week in the House of Commons. Here he is.
10:11 Pride is a moment for us to remember where we have come from
10:15 and to ensure that love conquers hate.
10:18 So happy Pride Month. Let our hearts win over hate.
10:22 And finally, Mr Deputy Speaker, in the words of Kylie,
10:26 "Pah-dum, pah-dum."
10:28 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
10:30 That's the bit that makes me go, "Ah!"
10:35 It's funny.
10:36 They're running the country...
10:38 Where are they?
10:40 LAUGHTER
10:41 ..with all the gesture. That was beautiful.
10:43 "Pah-dum."
10:44 It's a shame he couldn't get his printer to work.
10:47 It's a noo!
10:48 The phone will do. It's fine.
10:50 It's fine, there's no-one there.
10:52 This will never end up in telly. Well done.
10:55 Very good.
10:56 Now, very quickly, Kylie, Vegas.
10:59 So you are doing a residency in Vegas?
11:01 I am. Wow. OK. Yes.
11:03 And what is it? Is it...?
11:05 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
11:08 Is it like the show we saw last night?
11:11 Smaller, even. Really? Yeah. Caps at 1,000.
11:15 It's a club within the Venetian resort called Voltaire.
11:19 And I describe it...
11:21 I haven't finished building it yet.
11:23 OK. It's very much happening as we speak.
11:25 It's a cross between, like, a 1930s club,
11:28 with, you know, booths and tables and lamps.
11:31 You're going to walk in and feel this decadence and glamour.
11:34 With different little performances happening.
11:37 And then there's the star turn.
11:39 That's me opening.
11:41 So it's going to be a lot of fun. Very intimate.
11:44 And when does it happen? It's all sold out already, isn't it?
11:47 Yes. November 3, we open.
11:49 If it's open in time.
11:51 You know, like, Charlene's overalls are going to come out.
11:54 I'm going to be like, "Hey, I'm so involved."
11:57 "Take that, Adele. Look at me. Look at me go."
12:00 "Let's rock!"
12:02 Good luck with that and good luck with the new album, Tension.
12:05 Kylie Minogue, everybody!
12:07 Now, there is some great telly this autumn,
12:13 including a fabulous new drama series from Stephen Graham.
12:16 It's called Boiling Point.
12:19 It starts this Sunday on BBC One at 9 o'clock
12:22 and it follows on from the film of the same name.
12:25 It's set in a high-octane world of restaurant kitchen.
12:28 Let's have a little taste of what's in store.
12:30 I need you to remember what we do in here,
12:34 what we've started.
12:35 Right, check on table 8, one scallop, two cod, one pork.
12:38 Check on!
12:39 Don't forget, he's always the way for me.
12:41 Maybe if it wasn't for her, I'd still have my own restaurant.
12:43 It's Point North's name on the line.
12:45 Go out there and smash it, all right?
12:48 Yes, Chef!
12:49 You need to have a little bit more faith in yourself.
12:52 Hey, I'm proud of you.
12:53 I need you to keep the faith.
12:55 Would you like to be a chef or do you want to be a dishwasher?
12:58 I want to be a dishwasher.
13:00 Service!
13:01 Whoa!
13:02 Applaudissements
13:05 This is so good.
13:10 I don't know how many of you saw the movie,
13:12 but this isn't a TV series of the movie.
13:15 It's sort of a sequel?
13:17 It's a continuation.
13:19 This series picks up from where the film kind of left off,
13:22 six months down the line.
13:23 OK, so what's become of your character, Andy?
13:25 Andy is now no longer working in the restaurant
13:28 and we follow Carly, who was his sous-chef,
13:33 played by the wonderful Vernette Robinson.
13:35 She's now settled but on restaurant.
13:37 So we follow what happens within that restaurant
13:39 and the trials and tribulations that all of those workers
13:42 that we had from the film,
13:44 a lot of the main cast have come across as well,
13:46 plus we've got some wonderful new young talent.
13:49 So we follow what happens in their restaurant.
13:51 And it feels so real.
13:53 I was telling you backstage, it feels so real.
13:55 But it's not a real restaurant.
13:57 No, it was a set.
13:58 But is it practical?
14:00 We're seeing bread rising, is that...?
14:02 To an extent, yeah.
14:04 We had massive special effects.
14:06 To an extent, you couldn't eat none of the food,
14:08 as Hannah found out.
14:10 You know the way you have little bits knocking about?
14:12 This is your wife, Hannah?
14:13 Yes, the wonderful Hannah.
14:15 I don't know if that fruit's edible or not,
14:17 you know what I mean?
14:18 Don't try it.
14:19 Exactly.
14:20 That's been there since Wogan.
14:22 LAUGHTER
14:24 Wow!
14:26 Sorry to ruin the illusion.
14:28 So that has to look pretty in the bowl.
14:31 Obviously, he just banged the bowls...
14:33 I mean, banged the grapes.
14:35 You banged your grapes all over the table, didn't you?
14:38 I banged my grapes all the time.
14:40 That got worse, didn't it?
14:42 The grapes aren't real, are they, lads?
14:44 No.
14:45 Sorry, yeah.
14:46 The grapes aren't real.
14:48 Hannah found that out when she took a bite of one of the cakes.
14:51 She was like, "Oh, these look lovely."
14:53 Obviously bit it and it wasn't real.
14:55 It was mushed together and painted and glossed over.
14:58 Cos I worked in restaurants for years,
15:00 and the young people say "triggering",
15:02 I now know what it means.
15:03 I found the show so triggering.
15:05 Oh, God!
15:07 Everything goes wrong.
15:09 Oh, it's so tense-making.
15:10 Did you work in restaurants?
15:12 Yeah, I did, just for a little bit, though.
15:15 Will you say "little bit"?
15:17 Not a week, I think it was.
15:19 I got sacked.
15:21 What was it down for?
15:23 TGI Fridays, remember that? Is it still going?
15:25 It is, I believe.
15:27 There's lots of other places out there.
15:29 Yeah, other great places to eat and stuff like that.
15:32 I was a busboy and I got the sack,
15:35 because I wouldn't clean up sick.
15:37 And it wasn't even on my section, though.
15:39 If it was on my section, I would have cleaned it up.
15:42 Of course.
15:43 But it wasn't my section.
15:44 Whose section was it?
15:45 Someone else's.
15:47 Why didn't they ask them to clean it up?
15:49 Exactly, that's what I thought.
15:50 Why didn't you get him to clean it?
15:52 I'm guessing whoever owns TGI Friday isn't loving this story.
15:56 And then there was a big pile of sick in our restaurant.
15:59 I think it's fair to say that often at TGI Friday,
16:02 the customers do manage to keep it down.
16:05 That is impartiality, right?
16:08 Yeah.
16:09 I wasn't sick, David Mitchell.
16:11 But presumably, because in the movie you are cooking,
16:18 there is cooking going on,
16:19 so did you learn how to prepare the things you were making?
16:23 Yeah, we did.
16:24 Especially for the first one, we learned how to chop and how to prep.
16:27 Mostly it was the art of plating up, do you know what I mean?
16:31 So it looks...
16:32 It's the artistry of great chefs, I think.
16:34 That's when they wipe it, isn't it, with a bit of a tea towel.
16:37 Yeah, give it that little...
16:38 A bit of the goo.
16:39 And they do the saw...
16:40 The "jew", not the goo, the "jew".
16:42 It is a form of goo, isn't it?
16:44 "Jew" is a goo.
16:45 No, a "jew" is not a goo, a "goo" is not a "jew",
16:47 a "jew" is a "jew".
16:48 I would say a "jew", within the set goo, is a subset "jew".
16:52 Don't get all wierdy with me!
16:55 How can a "jew" be a goo when a goo is not a "jew"?
16:58 Because you can have more than one word for the same thing.
17:01 But that doesn't make sense.
17:03 Well, I mean...
17:04 You wouldn't say to a chef, "Can I have that goo on my plate?"
17:06 No, I wouldn't say that.
17:07 He'd slap you.
17:08 No, exactly, they're famously violent.
17:10 Take it outside, man.
17:12 I would say...
17:13 Him and Hufner, you're going to have that.
17:15 Me or him?
17:16 Me or him. Both of you.
17:18 I would go with the "jew".
17:22 Thank you very much.
17:23 See, Carly's told you, and I'll be correct.
17:25 Yes.
17:26 She has spoken.
17:28 You've been told.
17:30 Mr No has spoken.
17:32 And in Britain, there's a lot of talk about
17:35 there's been a food revolution, and food's so brilliant now in Britain.
17:39 David Mitchell, you disagree?
17:41 Well, my feeling is that, at heart...
17:44 Sit back, listen to this, Stephen.
17:46 You'll like this.
17:48 In this country, we are, at heart,
17:51 eaters of sandwiches at our keyboards.
17:54 We're just...
17:55 There are many in Italy, in France,
17:58 they really care about every meal they have.
18:00 Here, we do like, now and again, to have a massively posh meal,
18:04 but most of the meals, we just think, "Fuck it."
18:07 I'm busy, I've got a meeting at two, I just have some crisps
18:11 and a sort of incredibly soggy baguette
18:14 that would make a French baker kill himself.
18:17 And that's, for most meals, what we do.
18:20 But we now do have...
18:21 Oh, no, you can go, occasionally,
18:23 to an astronomically expensive restaurant
18:26 where you can't really talk
18:28 because they need to describe the tiny dish in about 400 words,
18:33 and it takes much less time to eat it.
18:36 Wow!
18:37 That's a bit of a recreational activity now in this country.
18:42 I think... I don't want to speak for you, Kylie,
18:45 I think you enjoy the long description of the tiny thing.
18:49 Excuse me.
18:51 What did you say?
18:54 As mentioned by David, just now.
19:00 OK.
19:01 Am I wrong?
19:03 Er, yes.
19:05 You do like... Yes!
19:07 Well, yeah, I like the description.
19:10 I do.
19:11 Of the... It's part of the show.
19:13 Yeah.
19:14 You like to know how it was made, how it was sourced.
19:16 Yeah.
19:17 Where do you stand on posh food?
19:19 Pizza Express is as posh as I get.
19:22 Very nice.
19:23 Did you...
19:24 You did a bad thing happen at Pizza Express, though, didn't you?
19:27 Oh, yeah.
19:28 You know, like, OK, so...
19:30 A very stressful thing happened, but I've never worked at a restaurant,
19:34 I'm not one of the worst customers, cos...
19:36 OK, once, it was years ago, I was broke,
19:39 this guy sat next to me, he left his whole pizza and left,
19:43 so I obviously, free pizza, started eating it, right?
19:47 Halfway through eating it, he comes...
19:50 No, my guy...
19:51 No, no, he never...
19:53 He went out for a cigarette.
19:55 And I was just like...
20:03 Acting like, "What is this foreign object to my mouth?"
20:06 Like I was shocked.
20:08 And he was just like, "You're eating my fucking pizza!"
20:12 And then I was like, "Yeah, look, it's the waitress."
20:16 It's her first day.
20:18 The waitress comes over, she's like, "He did an order with me."
20:21 So I was like, "Yeah, with your colleague."
20:23 The colleague comes over, I've got all three of them
20:25 looking down at me like the peasant that I am.
20:28 I'm still eating the pizza.
20:30 You're thinking, presumably,
20:32 "I've got to eat anything I'm going to be allowed to eat,
20:34 "I have to eat in the next 45 minutes."
20:36 I've got indigestion.
20:38 This meal is ending quite soon.
20:40 But you know what, when you've gone into a lie that far,
20:43 you just got leading.
20:44 I was like, "Can I get some chilli oil?"
20:46 And, Stephen...
20:50 Boiling Point, made by your production company,
20:57 and I know that one of your aims with that company
21:00 is to open the industry up to people
21:02 who possibly wouldn't have got in.
21:04 Yeah, that's the ethos.
21:06 There's three of us as a collective that produced it together,
21:09 three different companies, and that is our ethos.
21:12 Especially with the extent...
21:13 I made a conscious decision not to be front and centre this time
21:17 because I wanted everybody else to have a moment in the sun.
21:20 I think we've managed to really do that.
21:22 I think we've got a beautiful cast, very authentic.
21:26 It's very truthful, it's very real.
21:28 And, you know, without sound...
21:30 I don't feel we've got enough working-class drama
21:33 on the television at the moment.
21:35 We had a conversation earlier on, do you know what I mean?
21:37 And I completely believe that.
21:38 So we are in a fortunate position,
21:41 myself and the other executive producers,
21:43 to be able to create a platform for young people
21:46 and give them an opportunity.
21:47 So we fought hard for that to happen,
21:50 and I really hope it's paid off.
21:52 Well, I mean, the show is great.
21:54 It's such a calling card.
21:56 Boiling point, it starts on Sunday night.
21:59 Watch it. Stephen Ray, everybody!
22:01 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
22:03 Now, it's only September, but it's already book time!
22:11 And, oh, we've got a biggie, ladies and gentlemen, yes.
22:14 This is David Mitchell's Unruly.
22:17 It's a history of England's kings and queens.
22:20 It's out now.
22:21 Is it like a passion project, or...?
22:24 I mean, you knew a lot of this stuff already.
22:26 No, I... You studied history at university.
22:28 Yeah, I love history, and I love kings and queens.
22:31 That's what, basically...
22:32 It feels like you're not allowed to just read
22:34 about the kings and queens.
22:36 You should take interest in more important things,
22:38 like crop yields.
22:40 And I'm not interested in crop yields,
22:42 I'm interested in the arseholes, usually,
22:45 wearing the gold hats and bossing people around.
22:48 And I just... I started in the lockdown,
22:50 I started writing about them, cos they're fun people.
22:53 I mean, they're dreadful people. It was awful what they did.
22:56 But now it's a long time ago, we can laugh about it.
23:00 At the time, it really wasn't funny.
23:02 And it is a very funny, funny book.
23:04 Which of the monarchs did you enjoy taking the piss out of the most?
23:08 Well, I find... I mean, I like how horrible Edward the Confessor is.
23:14 Edward the Confessor gets quite a good press these days.
23:17 I mean, I'm not saying he's always on the front page.
23:19 But, you know, Edward the Confessor, he's the Anglo-Saxon king,
23:22 he told everyone, he told posterity how much he loved praying.
23:25 What a holy man he is.
23:26 I think he's a dreadful virtue-signaller.
23:28 He's an awful man, he caused chaos.
23:31 The Battle of Hastings was a result of his incompetence.
23:34 And in the book, you talk about how you think having a monarchy
23:38 is sort of what defines England.
23:41 Well, I think so. When you sort of look at Britain,
23:44 I would say the bit that has the least cultural identity is England.
23:48 Because the cultural identity essentially goes, the French...
23:51 And the French, they're not part of Britain.
23:53 Sorry. Had the book gone differently, they might have been.
23:57 The Scottish, the Welsh have very strong cultural identities.
24:00 England, it's sort of what's left.
24:02 And what the English identity focuses on is ancient institutions.
24:08 So, monarchy and parliament, that's what we focus on,
24:11 that's what defines us.
24:13 And that's just old stuff, really.
24:15 Yeah. It's not... It doesn't do anything.
24:18 It's not contemporary.
24:20 And so I think a huge amount of our sense of identity
24:25 as this part of the UK is about just sort of saying,
24:29 "Oh, look how when a monarch dies, we still do what we've always done."
24:33 Which is they parade around in the gold hat
24:36 and then they go into a secret room and a bit of...
24:39 And this definitely is goo, not jus, gets put on them.
24:42 And that means they're God's representative on Earth.
24:45 And we don't really think that it means that anymore,
24:48 but we still do it, because as soon as you stop doing it,
24:51 well, where are you?
24:53 You know, it's like if you've got a nice Bakelite light switch
24:56 in your house and you get rid of it, it's gone.
24:59 I mean, the monarchy can sleep safe tonight.
25:08 Well, I don't mind. I think the constitutional monarchy,
25:11 I think it's great fun, but it's not the same as having, like,
25:14 a huge tradition of art and culture.
25:17 It's just like a few things we always do.
25:20 Kylie, growing up in Australia,
25:22 did you have to learn about English kings and queens?
25:25 Yes. Oh, you did? Don't test me on it, my God.
25:28 Yeah, because you now, you could be, I'm correct,
25:31 an Australian can be a dame.
25:33 I'm not sure.
25:36 Well, you're something already, aren't you? An OBE?
25:39 Yeah, I'm an OBE. Yeah, so you could be a dame.
25:42 Yeah, I guess so.
25:44 Kylie, there should be Dame Kylie Minogue.
25:46 I think you can be a dame, yeah.
25:48 I think Dame Edna was a dame, although also fictional.
25:51 But, you know, there's...
25:53 Well, you should be a dame. Yeah.
25:55 Maybe one day. Come on, Charles.
25:57 Put your finger out.
25:59 Because, Stephen, you're a fresh OBE.
26:02 Yeah.
26:04 You are, I mean...
26:06 You are made up for the back of the town.
26:08 Yeah.
26:10 Who gave it to you?
26:12 Princess Anne.
26:14 Er, er, er...
26:16 That's Helen Bonham Carter, thank you very much.
26:19 No, it's not.
26:21 That's Princess Margaret.
26:23 And if you got one from Princess Margaret recently,
26:25 that's an elective.
26:27 Who's Princess Anne?
26:29 She's the sister of Charles.
26:31 But who played her in the real thing?
26:33 She's a really good actor.
26:35 Erin Doherty. Erin Doherty, she's so good.
26:37 She's amazing, she's unbelievable.
26:39 I'm working with her right now. I thought she's unbelievable.
26:41 She wasn't Princess Anne. She was, the first one, yeah.
26:44 So she gave you the medal? Yeah.
26:46 No, Erin didn't give me the medal.
26:48 It would have been great if she did, in a way.
26:50 When I think of the monarchy, I think of the cast of The Crown.
26:53 Yeah, quite rightly.
26:55 You'll love this.
26:57 I'm actually going to read it, because you actually do remind me
27:01 of my history teacher at school.
27:03 He had a breakdown.
27:05 I swear, and he once threw a chair at me.
27:10 So no shame on you.
27:12 Yeah, that's the vibe.
27:14 But now, very quickly, David,
27:16 you've got so many things on at the moment.
27:18 Would I Lie To You Is Coming Back,
27:20 The Outsiders is on Dave.
27:22 Yes, yes, that's coming in...
27:24 Oh, thank you very much.
27:26 Nice to have one of the crew here.
27:29 That starts the 11th of October.
27:31 OK, and that's on Dave.
27:33 And how cool is this?
27:35 This year, 20 years since Peep Show began.
27:38 Wow!
27:40 That's amazing, isn't it?
27:42 Are you doing anything special?
27:45 Because there's so much love for that show.
27:47 There have been a few nice articles, which is good,
27:50 but, no, we're not organising an event, really.
27:53 But it's just... In fact, what's weird about it is that
27:56 growing up, adults who seem very old would talk about things
28:00 happening 20 years ago, and you sort of thought,
28:03 "What's that? That's weird."
28:05 "20 years ago, you should be dead."
28:07 And now I know what that feels like.
28:09 And then you can sort of say, "OK, I've got a vague sense
28:12 "of by which point I will be dead."
28:15 So for me, I'm very proud of that show,
28:18 but also it's reminded me of my own mortality.
28:20 Great. Because Peep Show, it was such a kind of unique show
28:25 where we hadn't seen anything like it.
28:27 And I know, Mawaan, you've talked about how it could have
28:29 inspired you to what sitcom could be.
28:31 Yeah, there was nothing like it at the time.
28:33 And it broke form, and all my favourite shows try and do
28:35 something new and different and make TV exciting.
28:38 So, yeah, that was definitely in the same vein that, you know,
28:42 Juice came about.
28:44 We wanted to make TV that we wanted to watch.
28:47 Yeah. Yeah.
28:48 All right, well, let's talk about your new sitcom, Juice.
28:51 It continues on Mondays on BBC Three,
28:54 and the whole series available to binge now on iPlayer.
28:57 And I love it because it is a sitcom,
29:00 but it's also quite surreal.
29:02 I mean, how do you describe it?
29:04 How did you kind of pitch it to people when you wanted to make it?
29:07 It depends who I was talking to.
29:09 If it was the commissioner at various channels,
29:13 it was like, "Yeah, it's basically Inbetweeners."
29:17 LAUGHTER
29:19 What do you like? "Yeah, it's that. Give me the money."
29:23 LAUGHTER
29:25 But for us, it's a show about Jammer,
29:28 who's struggling with committing to a new scary relationship,
29:33 which is amazing, but, you know, love is confronting and scary.
29:38 And then his mum tells him about a thing from her past
29:41 that makes him re-evaluate his whole approach to romance.
29:44 And it's quite a surreal show, yeah, so when his emotions peak,
29:48 the world around him literally starts warping,
29:51 you know, his coat, my...
29:53 I mean, don't start laughing cos that is funny.
29:56 That hair... What's so funny about that?
29:59 Was that ever your real hair?
30:01 That's the sexiest face I've ever made.
30:04 I can't say cos the makeup artist would kill me if I told you it's a wig.
30:08 LAUGHTER
30:10 You have hair like that. Henry V.
30:13 LAUGHTER
30:15 It's all in the book. It's all in the book.
30:18 I was reading the book one day and I was like, "I can make a show out of this."
30:22 It's a good wig. It's a very good wig.
30:24 Well, I'm never getting laid again, and that's fine.
30:27 We'll talk about it some more, but let's have a clip.
30:30 This is the character Jammer, played by you,
30:32 with his boyfriend, played by Russell Tovey.
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