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00:00 As the old adage says, there are only two things that are certain in this life, death
00:06 and taxes.
00:07 With taxes, you're certainly more aware when they happen due to a sudden and saddening
00:13 drop in available funds.
00:15 But with death, is there any comparable moment of realization?
00:21 This is Unveiled, and today we're answering the extraordinary question, "When you die,
00:27 do you know that you're dead?"
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00:44 Until such time as immortality is possible, the creeping specter of death haunts us all.
00:51 But in the 21st century, humankind has grown more and more accustomed to facing it head
00:57 on.
00:58 Although, for hundreds of years beforehand, religion was really the only widespread means
01:04 through which we might try to understand death, in more recent times, science has taken over.
01:12 Where we once only had faith, now we have facts, figures, data, and studies as well.
01:20 And that specter of death has morphed into a whole new beast.
01:26 Although definitions vary around the world, the time of death is generally taken as the
01:31 moment at which your heart stops beating.
01:34 However, as CPR continually shows, you can be brought back from this particular brink.
01:43 Brain death is another crucial stage then, when your cerebral organ essentially gets
01:48 its power cut off.
01:49 However, in between heart and brain death, there certainly is a small period of time,
01:56 from 2 to 20, perhaps 30 seconds, during which scientists believe that you might know that
02:04 you're dead.
02:05 It's usually during this time that near-death experiences form, before the person is resuscitated
02:13 to recount them.
02:14 That said, it's extremely difficult to know exactly how aware any one person can be during
02:22 that particular and brief time window.
02:26 For those who are brought back to life, the near-death experience might make some sense
02:31 in hindsight, but at the time, when your body is going through the ultimate trauma, it's
02:38 not clear how much of it really hits home.
02:42 It's not clear if you truly know you're dead.
02:47 Nevertheless, various studies have captured headlines over the years, with them usually
02:52 billed as "haunting" or "disturbing" experiments to show that perhaps life doesn't end when
02:59 you die.
03:00 Or, at least, not exactly.
03:03 Dr. Sam Parnia, a British scientist and senior figure at the NYU Langone School of Medicine
03:09 in New York City, is one of the most frequently cited expert voices in the field.
03:16 Throughout the 21st century, Parnia has headed numerous studies looking into that mysterious
03:21 space between life and death.
03:25 In 2013, following the publication of his book "Erasing Death", published as "The
03:30 Lazarus Effect" in the UK, he gained attention after suggesting that we should be able to
03:36 resuscitate people even up to 24 hours after they've died.
03:43 For Parnia, what many would rather term "resurrection" is actually possible, if only we applied and
03:51 developed the science properly.
03:54 Whether or not you go along with this 24-hour theory, though, if it's even a little correct,
04:01 then suddenly we could have a lot longer in which to understand that we are dead.
04:08 Parnia is also the director of the Human Consciousness Project, based at the University of Southampton
04:13 in the UK.
04:15 Among other things, it was responsible for the AWARE study, taking a deep dive into the
04:21 near-death experiences of cardiac arrest survivors.
04:25 We took a closer look in another recent video.
04:28 Moving on from his body of work, Parnia has previously campaigned for the term "near-death
04:34 experience" to be changed to "actual death experience" as well.
04:39 So committed is he to the notion that death is never just one moment.
04:44 And finally, Parnia has previously indicated a somewhat radical view on the nature of consciousness
04:51 in general, arguing that it might not be produced by the brain, only hosted by it.
04:59 If true, that would potentially mean that the entire human experience, not just death,
05:06 could actually be linked to forces outside of our physical control.
05:11 The stance taken by Sam Parnia, many of his associates, and many other independent researchers
05:18 certainly asks us to question what, and when, we really think death is.
05:25 The vast majority of research seemingly shows that it might, even will be possible to know
05:31 that you're dead for at least around the first 20 seconds post your last heartbeat.
05:38 But beyond that, analysis of NDEs has been interpreted to hint at something more.
05:46 And if we ever can bring people back to life whole hours after their heart has stopped,
05:52 as Parnia has suggested we should be able to do, then suddenly we could live in a world
05:58 where multiple people within it have spent large portions of time, even whole days, technically
06:05 dead and departed from it.
06:08 Naturally, then, talk of death in these terms can take us to questions of the soul.
06:14 What is it?
06:16 Where is it?
06:17 And does it survive when your body is no more?
06:20 Again, while ideas on the soul have been more traditionally left to theology and philosophy,
06:28 modern science has become increasingly interested in properly defining it.
06:33 For centuries, the soul has proven notoriously difficult to pin down.
06:39 Many have tied it with ideas on the conscience, on morality, and with a species-wide understanding
06:46 of what's right and wrong.
06:49 Others have attempted to definitively explain it not only through the lens of human life,
06:55 but through life in general.
06:58 In the loosest sense, the soul is some kind of seemingly collective essence through which
07:05 the general experience of reality takes shape.
07:09 But that's all just way too ambiguous to satisfy most scientists, and as such, one
07:16 theory argues that the problem might be properly solved via quantum mechanics.
07:23 The theory of orchestrated objective reduction, or ORC-OR, was formulated and published in
07:30 the 1990s by the British physicist Sir Roger Penrose and the American scientist Stuart
07:36 Hameroff.
07:38 The model was then updated in 2014 and has become increasingly prominent ever since.
07:43 At its heart, ORC-OR might reasonably be considered one of the most radical and controversial
07:50 ideas of our time.
07:52 It argues that rather than being the product of neurological connections, consciousness
07:58 is generated via vibrations in microtubules, tiny protein strands inside neurons.
08:07 One of the key takeaways from the ORC-OR theory, though, however, is that it could mean that
08:13 consciousness continues indefinitely after the physical body fails.
08:19 Here, what might be called the soul is merely quantum information.
08:26 Throughout our lives, that information is channeled through our brains and experienced
08:32 through our bodies.
08:33 But when our lives end, the information doesn't disappear.
08:38 Instead, it's more like it gets released.
08:42 The brain no longer hosts it, but it does still exist, somewhere.
08:49 What happens next is still a little sketchy, even within the ORC-OR framework, but advocates
08:55 suggest that there could be a link to broader ideas on the soul and afterlife.
09:02 In terms of our title question, could this then be a mechanism through which you would
09:08 know that you're dead when you are dead?
09:12 Possibly.
09:13 But on the other hand, and as is so often the case with theories surrounding death,
09:18 we perhaps can't know for sure until we've passed away.
09:24 When viewed from an ORC-OR point of view, it could be that near-death experiences are,
09:30 essentially, a fluctuation in the vibrating microtubules that we all have inside us.
09:37 The quantum information they carry very nearly gets released, but ends up re-tethering to
09:44 our physical selves just in time, and we survive.
09:49 Or at least, we survive in our current form.
09:52 But actually, there's still more to come, and so when we do eventually exit our bodies,
09:59 we will, in some sense, know about it.
10:03 Then again, and bringing it all the way back to the more basic macro-level physicality
10:08 of life and death, without our brains to interpret that information, could it ever exist as anything
10:16 like a traditional thought or feeling?
10:20 Perhaps not.
10:21 What do you think about this particular life and death problem?
10:24 Clearly, from a scientific perspective, tracking down the answer is still a work in progress.
10:31 But at the same time, we've arguably never understood what really happens quite as thoroughly
10:38 as we do now.
10:39 For some, contemplating post-death knowledge is comparable to trying to remember our pre-birth
10:46 understanding.
10:48 It matters very little if life is simply bookended by nothingness on either side.
10:54 But for others, this is an ongoing and major philosophical and physical debate.
11:02 What do you think?
11:03 Is there anything we missed?
11:05 Let us know in the comments.
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