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00:22 But nowadays, a search is ongoing. Our political parties are searching for a statement.
00:28 And the political party that is most busy in finding a statement,
00:34 They are trying so hard to get a statement so that before the upcoming elections,
00:38 they can sell that statement in the market, and make people convince themselves, and gain people's trust.
00:45 That political party is Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
00:49 Pakistan Muslim League Noon has adopted many statements in the last 3-4 years.
00:55 First, the statement about respect for votes.
00:58 Then, the statement about respect for PDM.
01:01 Then, the statement about respect for IMF.
01:04 And now, they are talking about some other statements.
01:07 It seems like the circle has come back to the same place.
01:12 Now, it is not clear which statement to adopt and which to reject.
01:17 Obviously, the elections have been announced.
01:19 In the last week of January, the Pakistan Election Commission has made a formal announcement
01:23 that the elections are going to happen.
01:25 Now, Mr. Shabbir, the President of Pakistan Muslim League, came to Pakistan 2 days ago.
01:31 And he was called back within 40 hours to reach back.
01:36 Maybe, Mr. Nawaz had a planned schedule, a trip.
01:40 So, all the party leaders are present in London.
01:44 We are broadcasting that a big battle is going on in London between the big leaders of Noon League.
01:50 When Mr. Shabbir reached the meeting today, the media was present there.
01:55 He was asked to come back as soon as possible.
01:58 Let's listen.
02:00 Mr. Nawaz has ordered me to come to London.
02:05 I have come.
02:08 You are a big fan of meeting Gujranwala.
02:11 Don't you belong to Gujranwala?
02:14 Mr. Shabbir, is the date of your return?
02:17 Is the date of your return?
02:19 Yes.
02:20 Now, when Kashif Abasi asked Javed Lateef yesterday,
02:26 that why did Mr. Shabbir had to come back before the elections,
02:31 he also gave an explanation.
02:34 No one is on a date of rejection in 21 October.
02:39 It is seen that, God willing, two-thirds of the people will be successful in the leadership of Nawaz Sharif.
02:45 Friends of the country, from Pakistan and from all over the world,
02:51 met with Nawaz Sharif yesterday and today.
02:56 Some meetings are taking place today, in which Mr. Shabbir had to come.
03:01 Ladies and gentlemen, there is a tradition of Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
03:06 When they go abroad, there is a friendship between them.
03:11 You must remember the agreement of 2002.
03:14 Earlier, we said that we did not make any agreement, but later all the facts came out.
03:18 Now, he has returned from there.
03:20 Yesterday, Hassan also told in the program that there are some big people from Gulf countries
03:24 with whom the meeting was fixed.
03:26 Now, he has to go back.
03:28 Now, this sudden meeting is fixed.
03:30 The call will come back in 24 hours.
03:32 If this meeting was fixed, then it is obvious that he would have stayed there for 24 hours.
03:36 This is a question of ordinary people.
03:38 People like us who are sitting in Islamabad, are also asking.
03:41 They are daring to ask, "What is the reason, Mr. Shabbir?
03:44 You would have stayed for two days, but he came and went back."
03:47 On this, Faisal Wada, a former senator of Pakistan,
03:52 and a former minister,
03:56 they have a lot of internal information, or we have a lot of internal information from Hassan.
04:03 What is their take on this?
04:07 Why did he go back?
04:09 The things that have been seized, no one has them in Pakistan, except Shabaz Sharif.
04:14 Look, there was always black polish on black boots.
04:17 It used to shine.
04:18 Brown polish was applied on brown.
04:20 Tan polish on shoes.
04:22 Neutral polish is the only polish that is applied on every color of shoes and boots and shines.
04:27 The problem is that the shine does not last long.
04:31 So, the shining master brought neutral polish.
04:34 The polish will last for 11, 14, 17 months and then it will be over.
04:39 Shabaz Sharif has said that he forgot that the neutral polish went and brought it back.
04:43 But the BP was very low when he was leaving.
04:46 A lot of people in Islamabad are well informed.
04:50 Hassan is not among them.
04:52 They think that he came to Pakistan, Shabaz Sharif.
04:56 A very important speech was given in London by Respected Nawaz Sharif.
05:01 Then, by giving a special message, Respected Shabaz Sharif was sent back.
05:06 May Allah be pleased with him.
05:08 Faisal Wada, what are you talking about in this regard?
05:11 The speeches that Nawaz Sharif tried to make,
05:16 One is that you again came in front of the Venom, Bugs, Nafrat institution.
05:23 You blackmailed Judiciary.
05:25 You made their personal life videos.
05:27 You got your favorite cases done.
05:29 You kept going to the establishment again and again.
05:31 Their past is full with the establishment.
05:34 And the most important thing is that people think that Shabaz Sharif came and left.
05:41 They should be told that the speeches are fine.
05:45 If we talk about the neutral polish,
05:47 First, I sent him tied up in the plane.
05:50 This time, I will tie him up.
05:52 Yes, Venom, Bugs, Nafrat will be tied up in the plane.
06:01 I am not making this up.
06:04 Faisal Wada is saying that he is well informed.
06:06 His access level is much better.
06:10 And today, he introduced a different kind of polish in the market.
06:14 Actually, Faisal Wada is doing air firing.
06:18 Faisal Wada is trying to translate forcefully.
06:21 No one has told Faisal Wada to do this.
06:25 And no one has given any message to Shabaz Sharif.
06:28 I am saying this very categorically, very loudly and clearly.
06:31 Whether he is happy or not with Nawaz Sharif's speech,
06:34 He should know and Nawaz Sharif should know.
06:37 If he wants to refuse Nawaz Sharif,
06:39 I said yesterday that he will not send a message through Shabaz Sharif.
06:43 If he wants to send, he has about 12 bridges.
06:46 He has his own channels that he can use.
06:49 Now, what is the problem with Faisal Wada?
06:51 I will tell you.
06:52 Faisal Wada wants that maybe he will be bitten and he will get a chance.
06:56 But the thing is that you will have to fight the election.
06:59 You will have to win the election in your constituency.
07:01 And after winning, you can come to the field.
07:04 And even after coming to the field, if you are alone,
07:06 then you will be left alone.
07:08 You cannot get the Prime Minister'ship, you cannot get the ministry.
07:10 You will get the ministry only when you are in a political party.
07:13 And only then you can get a big role in the future.
07:16 Now, why is Faisal Wada doing this?
07:18 He is my very close friend.
07:20 I have a very good relationship of respect and respect.
07:22 But I can assure you.
07:24 I can assure you that he is only saying all this from his side.
07:30 You know his relationship, I know it, and the entire media knows it.
07:34 I know it.
07:35 No, no, the entire media knows his relationship.
07:37 So, the thing is that these things of Faisal Wada are without backing.
07:42 No one told him to translate this, to give this message.
07:46 But he has started giving.
07:48 I am not disagreeing with the fact that the statements that are coming,
07:52 no one has any objection to those statements.
07:54 It is possible that there are objections.
07:56 I said this yesterday also, it is possible that there are objections to those statements.
07:59 But channels are there to raise objections.
08:02 Direct communication will be done via rooted Faisal Wada.
08:06 They do not need Jaishebaz Sharif.
08:08 Let's come back to this.
08:10 Farid Qureshi is with us from London.
08:12 But before that, I will go to Chaudhary Ghulam.
08:14 Chaudhary sir, look, there is an argument.
08:17 It is being said that,
08:19 now Hassan has this idea, he has a story that
08:22 there are some meetings there.
08:24 In that, Jaishebaz Sharif's presence is necessary.
08:28 But the question being asked on that is,
08:31 if that meeting was earlier or it happened suddenly, then let's go.
08:35 I was not getting time, I waited for 10 days.
08:37 Now this is, now this is that,
08:39 what Hassan has just said that if,
08:41 The voice is blasting, it is a little bit better.
08:43 If it was not so necessary for the messaging in the middle,
08:47 then maybe there was no need to call him back.
08:49 He would have been told that I met him.
08:51 Anyway, we will come to this later.
08:53 Yes, Chaudhary Ghulam Sain Sahib, what story do you have?
08:55 Because he came to Lahore, he says,
08:57 I did not go to any Gujranwala, I went back.
08:59 You, those four things,
09:01 I am not disputing Hassan Ayub's means or his news.
09:09 And the Faisal Wada Sahib who is expressing his opinion,
09:13 he is not doing it today, his point of view is the same.
09:17 And he is found in a very important meeting.
09:21 You know this. Number two.
09:23 Number three, he first did a meeting in Lahore,
09:27 that I have to go to the airport,
09:29 a person has to come for 10 lakhs, 75 lakhs,
09:31 3 billion has to come, 75 billion has to come.
09:33 We kept listening, we asked people.
09:37 And people said, we are doing some other preparations,
09:41 I don't know who put this misconception,
09:45 that people are dying for Nawab Shahid.
09:49 Then they realized,
09:51 no, no, we don't want to go to the airport,
09:53 the airport is closed, there is no procession.
09:55 Now we will do, we will get down at the Minar-e-Pakistan by helicopter,
09:59 and in the darkness of the night,
10:01 we will do our meeting in the light.
10:03 Now whether they do it or not,
10:05 and now, although they are saying that October 1 is final,
10:10 but there are serious doubts.
10:13 There are many slips between the cup and the lips,
10:17 it is said in English.
10:18 I say, they came before 21st.
10:21 Viewers, but the statement that Faisal Warda was talking about,
10:26 that Nawab Sharif is getting too emotional,
10:30 such statements will not work here,
10:32 what was that statement, respected Nawab Sharif's statement,
10:35 what is that, listen.
10:39 Who are those people who brought the country to this point?
10:42 In 2017, these were not the conditions.
10:44 General Bajwa and General Faiz are behind it.
10:47 Who is the mastermind?
10:48 The mastermind is Saqib Nisar,
10:50 Hussain is the Bench of Panama,
10:52 Ijaz-ul-Ahsan is.
10:53 These people,
10:54 the ministers of the mandate of millions of people,
10:58 in a minute,
10:59 get him released and put him in jail.
11:02 And today we have reached the default.
11:04 And those who have done this with this country,
11:07 the biggest criminals of Pakistan,
11:10 will they reach the default?
11:12 They will definitely reach.
11:14 Farid Qureshi, thank you very much.
11:17 I hope you can hear me.
11:19 The news from London is that,
11:22 once again, the statement that we have made you hear,
11:25 the viewers,
11:26 Nawab Sharif and the rest of the party have repeated it,
11:30 that we will go back,
11:32 we will come back to power,
11:34 our path is very strong,
11:37 Hassan has also commented on it.
11:40 So, coming back,
11:41 these people whose names they are taking,
11:43 in which General Bajwa is there,
11:44 General Faiz is there,
11:45 there is also a sitting judge,
11:47 there is also a former chief justice,
11:49 we have to take them to the default.
11:52 Enough is enough.
11:53 There will be no compromise on this.
11:55 Today, they have repeated this statement and this argument in this meeting.
11:59 Yes, Guman sir, thank you.
12:01 See, the message that Faisal Gowdar sir has sent to Nawab Sharif,
12:05 that you should not talk about settlement,
12:07 if this message has really been sent,
12:08 then Nawab Sharif has denied it today.
12:10 And in the meeting that is going on today,
12:11 Nawab Sharif has openly said that
12:13 until these personalities are not settled,
12:16 whose names he has mentioned,
12:17 the former army chief is also included in them,
12:19 the former chief justice is also included in them,
12:21 he said that until they are not settled,
12:23 the country will not move forward.
12:25 This is a very clear statement of Nawab Sharif.
12:27 And today, he has repeated it again,
12:30 in this meeting,
12:31 and the meeting is still going on,
12:33 and he has openly said in front of these people,
12:35 that I am not going to back out of this situation.
12:37 Okay, Fareed, the point that Mr. Shabaz Sharif has reached,
12:40 obviously, all the reporters are present there,
12:44 because it is the centre of activity in Pakistan's politics.
12:47 What is the point of discussion among your reporters,
12:51 that why have they come back?
12:52 There must be some special reason.
12:54 The biggest question was that why did Shabaz Sharif come back suddenly?
12:58 He briefly said that he has been ordered to come back.
13:01 The news that is going on,
13:03 that there is an important meeting for which he has come,
13:06 it cannot be a secret meeting.
13:08 If it is a meeting with a business person,
13:10 or with a person from UAE,
13:12 then it should be open.
13:13 He would have told openly if there was such a meeting.
13:15 No news of this meeting has been officially released from anywhere.
13:19 And this return of him is in reference to these meetings,
13:22 in reference to Nawab Sharif's return,
13:24 how will he be welcomed,
13:26 what are the legal requirements in his return,
13:28 what are the possibilities when he returns,
13:30 that is the question that is being discussed.
13:32 And Nawab Sharif is again on his position,
13:34 I am saying that he is scared,
13:35 and he says that the government will sit ahead.
13:37 Mr. Fareed Qureshi, please tell us,
13:39 that today when those statements have been repeated in the meeting,
13:45 and other people were also present,
13:47 I have communicated with a couple of people on WhatsApp from the meeting,
13:52 they said that there is no change in their official position.
14:00 Position is the same.
14:01 So, if Shabaz Sharif has come,
14:04 and according to many people,
14:06 he has brought a special message,
14:08 so did he express that message in this meeting?
14:11 First thing.
14:12 And if he did not,
14:13 then did he meet them at night before this meeting?
14:16 Look, Shabaz Sharif must have spoken to Nawab Sharif in private,
14:22 if he has been sent a message,
14:24 it cannot be in this meeting,
14:26 because there are many people in this,
14:28 who cannot be given such a message in front of them.
14:34 If this message had to be given in front of the public,
14:37 then they would have spoken on the phone.
14:39 Because if he has brought a message,
14:41 then he gave a message in private,
14:42 and Nawab Sharif did not move from his position at all,
14:45 and he said that he will go back,
14:47 and if they have made an arrangement, then he will meet them.
14:50 So, Mr. Fareed, keep an eye tomorrow,
14:52 the meeting that you are saying about,
14:54 that there is no meeting,
14:55 so that meeting with a person from the Middle East,
14:59 that is scheduled tomorrow,
15:00 on a weekly basis.
15:01 So, keep an eye,
15:02 hopefully you will find it.
15:05 Yes, Mr. Chaudhary.
15:06 Yes, go ahead, Mr. Chaudhary.
15:07 Mr. Fareed Qureshi,
15:09 the picture that I have just seen,
15:12 in that, there are people of a very junior level,
15:15 party workers,
15:16 they are also sitting,
15:18 so I did not see such an important decision.
15:21 This is out of time,
15:23 what do they want to do?
15:25 I am saying that if Shahbaz Sharif has brought a message,
15:28 then that message was not conveyed in this meeting, Mr. Nawab Sharif.
15:31 That meeting that took place at night,
15:33 or when they met for breakfast in the morning,
15:35 then it must have been given.
15:36 But Nawab Sharif has expressed his position publicly,
15:39 he has done it in this meeting as well,
15:40 he has done it before as well,
15:41 and he says that he will not back down from his position.
15:43 Mr. Aitiz, these people...
15:44 Mr. Qureshi, that position,
15:46 when it was revealed,
15:48 when you ordered the party,
15:50 that we will not oppose their extension,
15:54 and it was supported,
15:56 then these statements and that action,
15:59 how can you justify them?
16:03 But in that regard,
16:04 the position of Noon League is that,
16:05 in the extension,
16:06 we voted so that we could remove Imran Khan.
16:08 Now, whether they did it right or wrong,
16:10 that is a different matter,
16:11 but their position is that,
16:12 we gave the extension to the army chief at that time,
16:14 so that we could remove Imran Khan.
16:17 Thank you very much, Mr. Qureshi.
16:19 Viewers, the development that is taking place from London,
16:21 that is your hospitality.
16:22 But what Mr. Qureshi was talking about,
16:25 that the decisions that are made by the Noon League,
16:29 that is made by the Sharif family,
16:30 they are their own,
16:32 they have a few people,
16:33 they talk heart to heart.
16:35 You must remember, Mr. Chaudhary,
16:37 and Hassan also remembers,
16:39 that when the extension was to be met in 2019,
16:41 all four to five people,
16:43 the kitchen cabinet was gathered,
16:45 the decision was made,
16:47 they took an oath that whatever is decided in this meeting,
16:50 we will not go back and talk about it.
16:53 Therefore, if Mr. Shahbaz Sharif has been called,
16:57 whether he has gone with the message or not,
16:59 there is something very sensitive under discussion,
17:02 regarding his return,
17:04 and the future setup in the country.
17:06 Viewers, I will tell you a few things,
17:10 and then we will come to the discussion.
17:12 Viewers, the question asked to Khawaja Asif was this,
17:15 that what was the reason for his return?
17:18 Mr. Mian did not say anything new,
17:22 the same things he used to say,
17:26 there are many things that we cannot do over the phone,
17:29 in our country,
17:31 there is no safety of conversation.
17:35 In that case, I think it is better to have a discussion in person.
17:46 There are hackers all over the world,
17:49 and I don't need to tell you about the conversation.
17:55 I think just for the sake of precaution,
17:58 they definitely need to discuss something sensitive,
18:00 for which they have gone.
18:03 Viewers, let's take you back in time,
18:06 I mentioned that there was a sitting in London,
18:09 and a decision was made regarding extension,
18:11 I will not tell you about the oaths taken.
18:13 Before that, you know,
18:15 a famous speech was held in Gujranwala,
18:18 sitting General Bajwa, General Faiz,
18:20 they were targeted,
18:22 that you are responsible for everything,
18:24 I will come back, I will do this, I will do that.
18:26 After that, when their deal was made,
18:29 which Rana Sonawla has said,
18:32 a few days ago in a television program,
18:34 that, "Gentleman, something was decided between us,
18:37 and how we decided all this,
18:39 and why we gave extension,
18:41 they talked about it in great detail.
18:43 Despite the fact that General Bajwa is the same Army Chief,
18:46 who was signed by your party on extension,
18:49 and was properly arranged to give him three more years.
18:53 This decision that we made,
18:55 then the effects that followed that decision,
18:59 we had to achieve our goal,
19:04 or that disorder and disorder,
19:08 which was prevalent in this country,
19:11 and with the gravity with which it was prevalent,
19:15 we had to reduce it or face it.
19:18 Some things are visible in a different way,
19:23 but their implied effects are in a different way.
19:28 Viewers, when we think about it later,
19:31 and see that in the same time,
19:33 when this agreement was made,
19:35 which Rana Sonawla has talked about,
19:37 Mariam Nawaz's face was very angry before that.
19:40 She was present in Gujranwala in a press conference.
19:44 So, a question was asked about General Bajwa.
19:46 She smiled and said,
19:48 "Okay, what is the next question?"
19:51 Nawaz Sharif had accused the sitting Army Chief
19:54 that he has hidden the election.
19:56 Do you have proof?
19:58 Was this accusation true?
20:00 Is it still true?
20:02 You say that Imran Khan stole it,
20:04 but your father says that General Bajwa stole it,
20:07 and took his name as well.
20:09 Next question.
20:11 Next question.
20:13 Will this next question be repeated?
20:15 It is absolutely correct that
20:17 politics is about finding ways out of a closed lane,
20:19 not about entering a closed lane.
20:21 At that time, there was no need for time.
20:23 I am completing the point.
20:25 Nawaz Sharif was in jail.
20:27 If he was getting a chance to go out,
20:29 he made a very right decision.
20:31 He went out.
20:33 He was not hanged like Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.
20:35 I guess it was a politically wise decision.
20:37 At that time, he would have said,
20:39 "Okay, hang me."
20:41 It is not like that.
20:43 The second thing is that
20:45 you are in a relationship with people outside the Sharif family.
20:47 So, it is absolutely their relationship.
20:49 When he went to Saudi Arabia,
20:51 he had a deal with Crown Prince.
20:53 This is the difference between the Sharif family and Imran Khan.
20:55 There is no guarantee for Imran Khan.
20:57 The third thing I would like to say to you is that
20:59 when you say "Tahayat Qaid",
21:01 they forget to say "Muslim League Noon".
21:03 I think you have considered them as your "Tahayat Qaid".
21:05 Okay.
21:07 Viewers know who
21:09 "Tahayat Qaid"
21:11 is.
21:13 But, Mr. Chaudhary Gulam,
21:15 the view of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto,
21:17 we can talk about it
21:19 whether it is right or wrong.
21:21 He has stood up for the cause
21:23 and is still famous for it.
21:25 Now, Hassan thinks that
21:27 it is a good thing
21:29 when you are in trouble.
21:31 You can see that you cannot afford it.
21:33 You can hold a narrow lane,
21:35 hold a plane, make an agreement,
21:37 whatever you want to do, leave.
21:39 When the time comes,
21:41 you can sit outside and make a plan.
21:43 I will not say conspiracy,
21:45 but according to Hassan's strategy,
21:47 do politics in a very powerful way
21:49 is not a bad thing.
21:51 Do you think your friend
21:53 will also adopt such a policy?
21:55 He says that he does not have
21:57 any guarantee.
21:59 I do not know whether he wants to stay here or leave.
22:01 Please comment on this.
22:03 No.
22:05 He has a guarantee.
22:07 He has a guarantee for the whole world.
22:09 He has a guarantee for the whole nation.
22:11 He does not need to find a guarantor.
22:13 That is another issue.
22:15 Actually, his problem is that
22:17 people shoot him and take out the thing.
22:19 And according to that,
22:21 they try to make a new narrative.
22:23 Now people have recognized his face.
22:25 So they are not even ready to listen
22:27 to his narratives.
22:29 People are going around
22:31 at the moment.
22:33 And Hassan Ayyub
22:35 wants that when we sit
22:37 next Monday,
22:39 then bring this story
22:41 that how many disgruntled people
22:43 are now in the Muslim League
22:45 and are looking for different ways
22:47 to get out of the Muslim League.
22:49 They think that the third party
22:51 has become over.
22:53 And this is the reason that you have seen
22:55 that the third party, the third party of the Jahangir
22:57 has also come out of the Muslim League.
22:59 And the rest of the people
23:01 are also in the same boat.
23:03 But in my opinion,
23:05 there is only one thing
23:07 that who is with Pakistan
23:09 and who is against it.
23:11 And who is involved in looting
23:13 and who is not.
23:15 Who is corrupt and who is a loafer.
23:17 And who is against the country
23:19 and who is against the army,
23:21 we should behead them. Period.
23:23 We don't care about anyone.
23:25 That where did they come from and where did they not come from.
23:27 Neither does anyone like their face.
23:29 And the worst condition of the people of Pakistan
23:31 and they have reached
23:33 in the worst form.
23:35 And no one has
23:37 any attention on them.
23:39 I don't see any person
23:41 who is going to
23:43 make people cry.
23:45 I am crying every day.
23:47 Okay, viewers,
23:49 Fardoush Ashik Sahiba,
23:51 when he was asked yesterday,
23:53 Dr. Fardoush Ashik Awan,
23:55 Dr. Fardoush Ashik Awan
23:57 I am sorry, sir.
23:59 I know, I forgot, I forgot the correction.
24:01 When he was asked yesterday
24:03 that, "O Allah,
24:05 why did Shabaz Sharif Sahib
24:07 go back immediately?"
24:09 Viewers, he is the spokesperson
24:11 of the Pakistan Staikam Party.
24:13 He is being led by
24:15 Jahangir Khan Tareen.
24:17 The party is saying that
24:19 they will register him in a few days.
24:21 People are joining the party day by day.
24:23 Now, what will be the future of the party,
24:25 that is later.
24:27 But he made an interesting comment
24:29 on Shabaz Sharif Sahib's return.
24:31 I think that Shabaz Sharif Sahib
24:33 was sent to Pakistan
24:35 to check the pitch.
24:37 When a team
24:39 plays in a political field,
24:41 they check the pitch,
24:43 whether it is a Humawar,
24:45 a Bouncy,
24:47 and how to play it.
24:49 I think he got a Bouncy wicket
24:51 and went back to the next side.
24:53 We have to go to a break,
24:55 but before going to the break,
24:57 we have to talk about the pitch.
24:59 Obviously, it is a political pitch.
25:01 We have to see how fast the outfield is,
25:03 how fast the ball will stop.
25:05 Obviously, when the conditions are
25:07 the same, the ball moves more.
25:09 Now, the news I have
25:11 is that
25:13 Respected Nawaz Sharif Sahib
25:15 has passed away.
25:17 Now, the conditions
25:19 are that all the problems
25:21 should be solved before he comes.
25:23 All the ways before my arrival
25:25 are already cleared
25:27 according to Hassan.
25:29 All the problems have been solved.
25:31 Now, he has to read the ticket
25:33 and come to Pakistan.
25:35 He has to come to Pakistan
25:37 with full strength.
25:39 As soon as he comes,
25:41 Respected Chaudhary Ghulam Sahin
25:43 is saying that
25:45 he has to take him to Minar-e-Pakistan
25:47 from the airport.
25:49 No, sir. He can take him directly
25:51 from the airport.
25:53 He can take him to the Prime Minister's office.
25:55 It is just a matter of elections.
25:57 It is a formality.
25:59 Respected Chaudhary Ghulam Sain,
26:01 you have been telling us about the land issues,
26:03 the numbers of land,
26:05 the discontent elements
26:07 within PMLN.
26:09 The Pakistani people are not standing
26:11 with anyone.
26:13 But, Hassan Ayub
26:15 thinks that
26:17 the Prime Minister
26:19 will talk about this.
26:21 A man went to a barber.
26:23 He asked him to cut his hair.
26:25 He said, "Count it."
26:27 Now, the rickshaw has arrived.
26:29 We will continue our discussion
26:31 about the pitch.
26:33 For whom will it be easy
26:35 and for whom will it be difficult?
26:37 For whom will it be better
26:39 and for whom will it be difficult?
26:41 Welcome back.
26:43 Obviously, there was a government
26:45 for 16 months.
26:47 The PDM government was led by
26:49 the Pakistan Muslim League.
26:51 All the big ministries
26:53 were under the PDM.
26:55 The general public
26:57 is aware that no one
26:59 is ready to listen to the name
27:01 of the PDM government.
27:03 Now, what happened
27:05 is that the Supreme Court
27:07 has ruled that the Tarameen
27:09 case has been closed.
27:11 All the cases have been closed.
27:13 So, the consensus
27:15 of the political commentators
27:17 is that
27:19 they are going back
27:21 in search of this statement
27:23 because they are not
27:25 ready to listen to the statement
27:27 of the 16-month-old PM.
27:29 They are saying that
27:31 if we hear the statement
27:33 of Rana Sanawla again,
27:35 and then we will listen
27:37 to the statement of Javed Lateef,
27:39 this is when he gave
27:41 an extension, a deal,
27:43 and all the traces of it
27:45 are visible to us.
27:47 So, let them go.
27:49 Why are you putting all the blame
27:51 on them?
27:53 Rana Sanawla
27:55 is being told that
27:57 the deal he had made
27:59 is also to be held accountable.
28:01 Despite the fact that
28:03 General Wajib is the same army chief
28:05 who was signed by your party
28:07 on the extension and
28:09 was given three more years.
28:11 This decision that we made,
28:13 the consequences
28:15 that followed that decision,
28:17 we have to achieve
28:19 our goal
28:21 or
28:23 that disorder and
28:25 disorder that was
28:27 dominant on this country
28:29 and the gravity
28:31 with which it was dominant,
28:33 we got help in reducing
28:35 or facing it.
28:37 Some things are
28:39 visible in a different way,
28:41 but their implied
28:43 effects are
28:45 in a different way.
28:47 Javed Lateef
28:49 has explained this issue.
28:51 The 16-month government,
28:53 the national government,
28:55 which you call Mr. Adi,
28:57 was an
28:59 arrangement to get
29:01 that person released
29:03 because of which the country
29:05 was being destroyed in 4.75 years.
29:07 Irfan Siddiqui
29:09 is a former senator of Noon League.
29:11 Since he is a journalist,
29:13 he often corrects the matter.
29:15 Why did you vote in favor
29:17 of the PM's party?
29:19 This is a question.
29:21 It is a question.
29:23 It was a mistake.
29:25 It was a mistake.
29:27 It should not have been.
29:29 Mr. Adi, do you feel that
29:31 this decision was wrong?
29:33 I don't understand.
29:35 Please explain.
29:37 We have to carry on
29:39 the same narrative.
29:41 We have to take Jalnab Bajwa
29:43 to the Kaifur-e-Kirdar.
29:45 You have seen that
29:47 one is a drinker,
29:49 he brings it,
29:51 one drinks it,
29:53 and Allah takes advantage of it.
29:55 How can you blame
29:57 one person?
29:59 You are right.
30:01 You are right.
30:03 The situation in Pakistan
30:05 is not only 16 months,
30:07 it is 4.75 years.
30:09 We don't talk about 4.75 years.
30:11 We talk about 16 months.
30:13 I am answering the question.
30:15 I am answering the question.
30:17 I am answering the question.
30:19 I am not going anywhere.
30:21 I will answer all your questions.
30:23 In the 4.75 years,
30:25 when the milk and honey
30:27 was being sold,
30:29 we were the only ones
30:31 who were listening.
30:33 I am answering the question.
30:35 The narrative of Nawaz Sharif
30:37 about General Bajwa and General Faiz
30:39 is not a narrative of Nawaz Sharif,
30:41 I can't disagree with his narrative.
30:43 I can only say that
30:45 he is not a narrative.
30:47 You are saying that
30:49 the atrocities being done
30:51 against this country
30:53 are being done
30:55 with the name of the people
30:57 who were the main reason
30:59 for Panama judgment.
31:01 Who were the main reason
31:03 for Panama judgment?
31:05 Who were the main reason
31:07 for Panama judgment?
31:09 I am talking about the extension
31:11 of General Faiz.
31:13 I am talking about the extension
31:15 of General Faiz.
31:17 The extension was done
31:19 before the Panama judgment.
31:21 The extension was done
31:23 before the Panama judgment.
31:25 The extension was done
31:27 before the Panama judgment.
31:29 The extension was done
31:31 before the Panama judgment.
31:33 I can only ask you
31:35 who are the beneficiaries
31:37 of this entire matter?
31:39 I can only ask you
31:41 who are the beneficiaries
31:43 of this entire matter?
31:45 You have destroyed the country.
31:47 You have destroyed the country.
31:49 If I may,
31:51 I am older than you.
31:53 If I may,
31:55 I am older than you.
31:57 If I may,
31:59 I am older than you.
32:01 If I may,
32:03 I am older than you.
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