"Hum Ne Danday Khayen Hain Iftikhar Chaudhry ke liye...," Nadeem Afzal Chan
"Hum Ne Danday Khayen Hain Iftikhar Chaudhry ke liye...," Nadeem Afzal Chan
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00:00 Zardari Sahib or Bilal Sahib? There is no difference between them. There can be differences in statements.
00:07 There can be differences in every aspect. When was the last time you saw a difference?
00:13 We saw differences in many aspects. When Sanjana Gandhi was being made Chairman of the Senate, there was a difference.
00:20 In the 18th amendment, there was a big debate on many issues. There was a big debate on the extension of Bajwa Sahib.
00:27 There are always debates on these issues. There are always crises. There are debates in the parties.
00:31 And Zardari Sahib won.
00:33 Zardari Sahib is a big man.
00:35 So you are saying that making Sanjana Gandhi Chairman of the Senate was Zardari Sahib's decision.
00:41 I have done many programs with you.
00:44 You are saying that voting for the extension was Zardari Sahib's decision and not Bilal Bhutto's.
00:50 What can I say about this?
00:52 It was a wrong decision or a right decision. Our parties took part in it and we own it.
00:58 You just said that it was Zardari Sahib's decision.
01:01 It has already happened. When a collective decision is made, then all the parties own it.
01:05 So who made the deal? Bilal Sahib or Zardari Sahib?
01:07 Actually, the deal was made 14-16 months ago.
01:11 Listen to me. What deal?
01:13 The deal is a simple deal. You know it. Everyone knows it.
01:17 The party of Mizbani's Farahat did the deal. But the majority of people left Mr. Khan.
01:24 So people said that trust is not improving.
01:27 The PDM wanted to design.
01:29 It is so funny. The assembly of Balochistan breaks down or the government of other countries breaks down.
01:32 People's Party is like this.
01:34 Here, Sanjani Sahib is elected.
01:36 You are saying that it is Bhutto's.
01:38 You bring the vote of no confidence against him.
01:41 I am trying to understand where we are standing today.
01:45 If you want to answer the question of taan vs taan, then I will do that.
01:49 I am doing facts. I don't have taan.
01:51 If you want to answer the question of taan vs taan.
01:53 Did you break the taan or not?
01:55 Look, there have been many great things in the history of Pakistan.
01:59 So what is the big deal in this?
02:01 I will say that we have been 100% ideal in every position.
02:04 In some places, we may have made mistakes.
02:06 This happens. Mistakes happen in history.
02:09 But the good things that have happened, the majority of people have done it in the history of Pakistan.
02:13 All the good things that have happened in the history of Pakistan,
02:15 whether it is the work of the mirror or the work of keeping this country together,
02:18 the purest party has made the most sacrifices for this country.
02:21 If you want to not mention them or not to tease them, but you want to do this.
02:27 Tell me one thing, how did this disagreement happen?
02:29 Which one?
02:30 Zardari Sahib and Bilawal Sahib.
02:31 No, I don't think there is any disagreement.
02:33 Is there a disagreement now?
02:34 There may be disagreement in opinion.
02:36 When the party's CEC meeting will come, you will see that there will be an open debate.
02:41 Bilawal Sahib has decided that the party is ours.
02:43 The CEC has decided that the election is ours.
02:45 When they say that they will ask Zardari Sahib what the meaning of this statement is,
02:47 Zardari Sahib's political and legal matters are the matters of the house.
02:51 It is a party policy.
02:52 I am not bound, I am bound by the party.
02:55 Zardari Sahib will not decide now.
02:58 The chairman of the party is bound by the party.
03:00 He has not said anything wrong in this.
03:02 The party's CEC has decided.
03:04 Before this, Mr. Chand, you were a part of the party.
03:07 When the Panama case was going on, you said that you will do a long march.
03:11 The mosque will be inside.
03:12 We will start with Faisalabad.
03:13 Zardari Sahib came and said that nothing will happen.
03:16 Do you remember?
03:17 I remember.
03:18 Zardari Sahib overrules.
03:20 Zardari Sahib has always overruled in the history of Pakistan.
03:24 The elders' decisions are always accepted.
03:25 Our culture is like this.
03:26 The culture of our country is to accept the decisions of the elders.
03:29 So, Bilawal Sahib can be overruled.
03:31 We have never called the army chief a father.
03:33 There are political parties in this country who have called the PTI a father.
03:38 We have never called him a father.
03:40 Now, it is different to accept the decisions of the elders or to call such a position a father.
03:47 You keep the Pivot Party on a little decision.
03:50 We have never said that you will be elected to the army for 10 times.
03:53 The Pivot Party has never said this.
03:55 The Pivot Party has never said that I will be the age of a dictator or I will be his.
03:59 So, you should also look at the Pivot Party.
04:01 Who has given the sacrifices or the martyrdoms?
04:04 We do not say that Allah will give another martyrdom.
04:06 The Pivot Party has given it.
04:07 So, if you want to see the Pivot Party in that perspective, in good faith, yes, mistakes have been made.
04:12 Sir, listen to me.
04:13 We have made mistakes too.
04:15 You supported the martial law of 1999.
04:18 Who?
04:19 The martial law that was implemented by Parvez Musharraf Sahib in 1999.
04:21 On 12th October.
04:22 You opposed that martial law.
04:23 Look, I will tell you.
04:24 Look, Mian Sahib.
04:25 Look, Mian Sahib.
04:26 No, you supported it.
04:27 But you also supported the Charter of Democracy with Mian Sahib.
04:30 Sir, they are so good.
04:31 Who made Musharraf free?
04:32 Who forced Musharraf to take off his uniform?
04:38 And who gave him the permission to work in uniform?
04:42 Now, you should also say that the Pivot Party has done all the sacrifices.
04:45 Immediately after the Charter of Democracy, the Pivot Party met.
04:49 Sir, you signed the Charter of Democracy.
04:50 You said that no one will meet.
04:51 First of all, you should go and meet.
04:52 You met Parvez Musharraf.
04:53 You took the NRO.
04:54 You also admit all the mistakes.
04:56 You took the NRO.
04:57 You see, NRO is like this.
04:58 You took it, you lost your uniform.
05:00 No, the uniform was given.
05:02 Musharraf, if...
05:03 According to the statement of Mr. Ahsan, Parvez Musharraf was at his weakest when Mr. Iftikhar Chaudhary was killed.
05:10 Mr. Iftikhar Chaudhary's...
05:11 He was released from the third room.
05:12 The Pivot Party put his life in that.
05:14 I want to say in front of you, in front of the lawyers.
05:17 The date of Iftikhar Chaudhary's promotion was also the date of the NCO's promotion.
05:21 Musharraf had become a baggage for the army.
05:24 The army had to throw that baggage out.
05:27 And they decided that whatever baggage...
05:29 So, the Musharraf who wanted to throw the baggage out, you wanted that baggage not to go out.
05:33 No, no, NCO sent him.
05:35 The wife was standing with Iftikhar Chaudhary.
05:37 We had been beaten for Iftikhar Chaudhary.
05:39 You met him, go and meet him.
05:40 And that Iftikhar Chaudhary, your favorite party at that time, used Iftikhar Chaudhary to do a coup.
05:45 Yes, that's right.
05:46 Like your next favorite party did a coup with this country.
05:53 Which was my and your favorite party, which has been for a few days.
05:56 So, how did you do a coup with that?
05:58 You were the minister.
06:00 You were the minister.
06:02 You were the minister.
06:04 You were the minister.
06:06 Sir, whatever is right, is right.
06:07 You were a partner in everything.
06:09 You were a partner in everything.
06:12 Sir, you will rule well.
06:14 We were discussing with Mr. Chand, we will run a good government, we will do good politics,
06:18 we will do good governance.
06:19 Why will anyone be against you?
06:20 So, your problem is that we do black, we do white, people come with us.
06:24 No, no, we are accountable.
06:25 To whom?
06:26 To the public.
06:27 See, Kashyap bhai, whatever he says.
06:29 We are absolutely accountable.
06:30 I have seen the political side.
06:31 Who said that we do black, we do white, who said this?
06:34 You are saying this now.
06:35 No, no, no, it's wrong.
06:36 We have never said this.
06:37 No, then you say that your party.
06:38 No, no, if we were not accountable, then why would we answer your questions?
06:43 Yes, this is right.
06:44 But tell me, where will this disagreement go?
06:47 You are aggressively attacking me.
06:49 I said, we are accountable.
06:50 We are standing with IG.
06:51 We are standing with IG.
06:52 I want to laugh so much.
06:53 Otherwise, why should I answer you?
06:56 I want to laugh so much.
06:57 Why should I answer you that I am a candidate for the people, a candidate for my party.
07:00 You are laughing so much, sir.
07:01 What else will you do?
07:02 Will you kill yourself?
07:03 No, no, no, you go.
07:04 So, I will shoot you with a stick?
07:05 No, no, God forgive me, God forgive me, God forgive me.
07:07 Sir, tell me, where will this disagreement end?
07:11 But when the CEC meeting will be held, I think, in that meeting, the decision will be made.
07:16 We are 90 days.
07:17 Why did you not go to the Supreme Court as petitioners?
07:19 Why?
07:20 You kept going to the Senate.
07:21 No, we make political decisions.
07:24 When did the Pew Party try to drag the courts into politics?
07:28 We were victims of this change of system.
07:30 What are you talking about?
07:31 There was a ruling of the Deputy Speaker in the election.
07:32 You went.
07:33 That was a wrong ruling.
07:35 So, which one was right?
07:36 Which one was wrong?
07:37 This election was not done in 90 days.
07:39 Who is the President of the election?
07:41 Who is he?
07:42 PTI?
07:43 No one is the President.
07:44 No one is the President.
07:45 You are saying that the Speaker is not of anyone.
07:47 The Speaker used to vote for the product.
07:49 The Speaker is not of anyone.
07:50 The President is not of anyone.
07:51 I said that if he does not give the date, the crime will be committed in the same way as the Election Commission has committed a crime.
07:56 The crime of the Election Commission and the crime of the President will be equal.
08:00 We demand this from them and we have written a letter to them that you are a constitutional obligation.
08:06 This is not your right.
08:08 You have to perform this constitutional obligation and duty.
08:12 You have to appoint the date.
08:13 If you do not do it, it will be an act of unconstitutional.
08:18 Sir, tell me one thing.
08:20 That is why you should go to the Supreme Court.
08:22 A very powerful party's President is sitting there who is doing something unconstitutional and not giving dates.
08:28 You should go to the Supreme Court.
08:30 I did not understand who is the President and what are you hiding behind?
08:35 If the Election Commission has seen this, if the Election Commission has got the approval of the People's Party, then all the political parties are getting it.
08:42 If the date is not given in three days, the Election Commission needs 54 days for the purpose of the schedule.
08:49 Then they will sit and decide whether we have to go to the courts or we have to go to the public or we have to go to the forum.
08:56 If Mr. Zardari says that we should not go to the public.
08:57 But it will be the decision of the party.
08:59 Who is the party?
09:00 The People's Party, all the workers, I am the People's Party, Mr. Zardari is the People's Party, Mr. Bilawal is the People's Party.
09:04 But Mr. Zardari says that the decision of the chairman is the decision of the party.
09:06 No, no, no, the party's agreement.
09:07 Never said this?
09:08 There is a debate in the CEC.
09:09 Never said this?
09:10 What?
09:11 That the chairman's authority is given.
09:12 The opinion is given that we give our authority, announce that co-chairman or chairman.
09:17 This resolution is passed.
09:19 It is a method.
09:20 Mr. Zardari is also a co-chairman.
09:21 He is a co-chairman.
09:22 So whose decision will be it? Chairman or co-chairman?
09:25 It will be the decision of the party.
09:26 I say that the party will give authority to whom?
09:29 The party gives me authority, I will announce it.