Mahama on Judiciary: Discussing Ex-Prez's claim that Akufo Addo has packed courts with NPP faithful - The Big Agenda on Adom TV (4-9-23)
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00:00 Indonesia.
00:07 I don't
00:15 know. Um balance system. Right?
00:41 So, I'm a former president. Now,
01:07 So, I'm a former president. Now,
01:14 John Rahmani Muhammad.
01:19 as a statesman.
01:29 Um
01:37 exactly what the former
01:38 exactly what the former
01:38 exactly what the former president said.
01:46 So, the other side.
01:58 one of the NDC
02:00 one of the NDC
02:00 one of the NDC communications team members
02:03 of
02:19 parliamentary aspirant of the
02:22 parliamentary aspirant of the
02:22 parliamentary aspirant of the NDC communication team.
02:32 Uh former president. Uh what?
02:36 Uh former president. Uh what?
02:36 Uh former president. Uh what? Yes, sir. Uh now we'll meet in
02:39 Yes, sir. Uh now we'll meet in
02:39 Yes, sir. Uh now we'll meet in a meeting. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
02:45 Yeah. And it depends as well. Uh
02:46 Yeah. And it depends as well. Uh
02:46 Yeah. And it depends as well. Uh from his country. Uh more
02:48 from his country. Uh more
02:48 from his country. Uh more mountain. Um former president.
02:54 Um yeah. former president. His
03:00 former president. His
03:00 former president. His excellency. Excellency. Now,
03:06 what is the question? Yes.
03:10 what is the question? Yes.
03:10 what is the question? Yes. Especially this particular time
03:12 Especially this particular time
03:12 Especially this particular time of the season. Because the two
03:22 of them.
03:28 CD the reports of
03:32 CD the reports of
03:32 CD the reports of 2019.
03:35 confidence in
03:38 confidence in
03:38 confidence in judicia.
03:44 statistics. Every eight out of
03:45 statistics. Every eight out of
03:45 statistics. Every eight out of ten. And this is so serious.
03:51 statistics. Every eight out of ten. And this is so serious.
03:53 statistics. Every eight out of ten. And this is so serious.
03:53 statistics. Every eight out of ten. And this is so serious.
03:57 indicators as to
04:02 indicators as to
04:02 indicators as to maybe. But percentage wise. Now, try it.
04:06 percentage wise. Now, try it.
04:06 percentage wise. Now, try it. Yeah. And now, maybe some. What
04:12 are some of the reasons? DAD kind. Say, parliamentary
04:17 are some of the reasons. DAD kind. Say, parliamentary
04:17 are some of the reasons. DAD kind. Say, parliamentary party MPP.
04:23 Not 2020. What appointing as a
04:25 Not 2020. What appointing as a
04:25 Not 2020. What appointing as a church in the high court are.
04:29 church in the high court are.
04:29 church in the high court are. Now, 2 years down the line,
04:33 Now, 2 years down the line,
04:33 Now, 2 years down the line, what's up promoting from the
04:35 what's up promoting from the
04:35 what's up promoting from the high court to the superior court?
04:37 high court to the superior court?
04:37 high court to the superior court? Not even to the court of
04:39 Not even to the court of
04:39 Not even to the court of appeal to the superior courts. We have
04:42 appeal to the superior courts. We have
04:42 appeal to the superior courts. We have at least we will comment
04:43 at least we will comment
04:43 at least we will comment on it. Say, a judge, a judge, a platform.
04:55 it. praise it on my opinion.
04:57 it. praise it on my opinion.
04:57 it. praise it on my opinion. February. Now, May, 2 months
05:00 February. Now, May, 2 months
05:00 February. Now, May, 2 months down the line, they are promoting
05:02 down the line, they are promoting
05:02 down the line, they are promoting it to the superior courts.
05:04 it. praise it on my opinion.
05:04 it. praise it on my opinion. February. Now, May, 2 months down
05:06 February. Now, May, 2 months down
05:06 February. Now, May, 2 months down the line, they are promoting to the superior
05:08 the line, they are promoting to the superior
05:08 the line, they are promoting to the superior courts. You comment on it.
05:10 courts. You comment on it.
05:10 courts. You comment on it. I mean, MPP, forgive my words, whether professor, a
05:15 I mean, MPP, forgive my words, whether professor, a
05:15 I mean, MPP, forgive my words, whether professor, a heritage, you see, woodlamps.
05:20 heritage, you see, woodlamps.
05:20 heritage, you see, woodlamps. Estimate courts at the end of the day. I'm a
05:25 Estimate courts at the end of the day. I'm a
05:25 Estimate courts at the end of the day. I'm a discontinued case. Oh, and to show you.
05:32 I mean, some of the former president has also recommended judicial reforms to
05:45 restore absolute trust and confidence in the judicial system. He, however, has
05:54 suggested that the reforms must not be imposed by the executive arm only, but
06:02 together with the judicial. And the reforms, executive, but together with
06:09 what? Judicial. They are not above criticism.
06:18 But within a spirit of a fit, yes, a year, yes, former presidents like
06:27 Nenewo Judiciary Nesu, any stage we are in now, we fire Elko Omusu from Supreme
06:37 Court ruling, election petition, whole time now, consistently till now.
06:44 No, I think.
06:49 Yes. Yes.
06:54 Yes. Yes.
06:59 Yes.
07:04 Yes.
07:14 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
07:18 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
07:21 As citizens, it's every Blessing Day except election petition.
07:27 I'm not sure.
07:27 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
07:29 Just one case, but in no case.
07:32 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
07:35 You are interviewed in one of the media.
07:37 I can't say it's a surprise that a attorney general will just
07:40 walk to the court and tell the judge, say,
07:42 I want the case to be heard daily.
07:45 And so it was.
07:47 Was even surprised.
07:48 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
07:51 I will talk about it.
07:53 Last year's issue was different.
07:56 He spoke about it.
07:57 This year's issue, [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
08:00 You will still talk about it.
08:03 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
08:06 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
08:12 In two months' time.
08:13 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
08:15 You have [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
08:22 I am on promotion.
08:23 And they've not been mentioned.
08:25 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
08:28 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
08:31 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
08:52 All right.
08:53 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
09:01 There must be judicial reform.
09:03 Indeed, most Ghanaians, if you interview most Ghanaians,
09:06 they believe that there must be some reform of the judiciary
09:08 in order to bolster its reputation
09:11 and make it an independent institution that not only
09:14 Ghanaians, but foreign investors and any person who
09:17 is in the jurisdiction of Ghana can try.
09:19 They also say that often when we have come out of elections
09:22 and we have won, everybody wants to go into the executive.
09:25 Our lawyers, please, I beg you, some of you
09:27 must be prepared to go onto the bench.
09:29 I know that some have very lucrative legal practices.
09:33 They don't want to leave those practices and go on the bench.
09:36 But I mean, you can see what the current president has done.
09:41 He's appointed the largest number, biggest number
09:44 of judges onto the bench.
09:45 It's more than 80 towards 100 and counting.
09:49 He's packed the courts.
09:50 And we know that they've packed the courts because they
09:53 want to avoid accountability after they have left office.
09:56 And so--
09:57 [AUDIO OUT]
10:01 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
10:02 Former president, Eddie Eto'o Iga.
10:03 Lawyer, [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
10:25 Generally, we say the judicial system,
10:30 they are above criticism.
10:32 In a democracy, we should open a dialogue
10:38 where citizens can express their opinion about judges named
10:43 Eddie.
10:45 But you're disturbing when the person talking,
10:50 and I will only echo my work on myself,
10:53 happens to be a former president, our new president.
10:58 The reason is that over a former president,
11:01 you had an opportunity, and you have indeed, or in fact,
11:07 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
11:09 in the past.
11:11 Every president [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
11:13 over appointed judges.
11:17 Now, former president Muhammad Tamerlow
11:20 appointed judges.
11:23 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
11:28 That's not how it works.
11:30 The way it works is that [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
11:41 I'm the man head of chamber, not signed.
11:44 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
11:59 Normally, they look at your experience,
12:00 your experience of how you're sufficient,
12:03 how you argue cases.
12:05 And the number of cases already, and you say,
12:08 this guy will cover your reality.
12:11 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
12:18 But from the higher court, normally,
12:20 I'm a higher practitioner.
12:22 I'm a practitioner for some time,
12:23 I have more experience.
12:25 But you first have to be qualified.
12:27 Now, qualified will be in our court throughout the process.
12:30 Now, judicial counsel will send a list of all the qualified
12:37 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
13:03 You have to express an interest.
13:05 That's what we call through the mail,
13:07 to make sure you're otherwise qualified.
13:09 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
13:18 I know, for example, former president Muhammad,
13:21 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
13:41 Now, Professor Minister Burcu, [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
13:49 And a new president, [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
13:56 So there's always this notion behind a man for--
14:02 we are making it with ground, a political situation,
14:06 and so on.
14:07 But normally, they normally don't say it.
14:10 Now, from--
14:12 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
14:21 Because [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
14:26 Professor Mender was in a--
14:29 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
14:32 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
14:37 Yes, [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
14:39 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
15:05 But nobody goes out there and malign--
15:08 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
15:19 OK.
15:20 But you swear other people in?
15:23 Yes.
15:24 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
15:29 At the end of the day, you know, I'm
15:30 saying the professor of the establishment said,
15:32 you first have to go through the system.
15:34 OK.
15:35 For you to be shortlisted first.
15:37 Before I was in a president of them, so what have you?
15:41 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
15:47 All right.
15:48 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
15:59 It was not necessary for the president.
16:02 But with the former president, Muhammad,
16:03 the issue with the judiciary started from unanimous--
16:08 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
16:19 The issue with the banks is when even--
16:23 such as when they themselves have not brought the evidence.
16:26 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
16:29 I have been in say, all country, sorry, judiciary,
16:35 which is meant to be the only glue that will
16:39 hold this country together.
16:41 Top officials will be a malign.
16:43 [INAUDIBLE]
16:44 If he said it was not necessary for him
16:46 to have to pay those comments.
16:49 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
16:59 Yeah, me too.
17:00 As an experienced lawyer.
17:01 Yes, me too.
17:02 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
17:03 That is correct.
17:04 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
17:05 That is correct.
17:06 It'd be a final discretion of the president.
17:08 That is correct.
17:09 And the former president is always.
17:10 Yes.
17:11 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
17:12 Yeah, no.
17:14 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
17:17 Former president.
17:18 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
17:20 Corporate, right?
17:20 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
17:24 Your two nominees be president to reject.
17:28 So we should find out the reason why president reject.
17:32 There must be rejection.
17:33 Just because a lot of factors contribute to the appointment.
17:38 Not the necessary intelligence.
17:39 After intelligence, the Ghanaians are intelligent.
17:42 You can take it away.
17:43 But there are a lot of factors.
17:45 And what are some of the factors?
17:46 And it's an aspect to say there are some basic factors.
17:50 Forgive my word, basic, because if a parliamentary candidate
17:55 just fresh, and you say decade, about two times, three times,
17:59 a trimer, you won't say the person is reformed.
18:02 Just a fresh parliamentary candidate,
18:05 not say you are appointing as a high court judge.
18:10 We have a concern.
18:12 But now, within the two years--
18:13 Before, who is a parliamentary candidate, right?
18:16 Aspirant.
18:17 Who is aspirant?
18:18 So who is a candidate?
18:19 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:22 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:23 Was me in my private job.
18:24 I'm an engineer by profession.
18:26 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:26 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:27 In general.
18:28 Me engineer.
18:29 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:30 OK.
18:31 So you're a civil engineer.
18:32 Yes.
18:33 So what about a parliamentary candidate?
18:35 Yes.
18:35 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:37 Yes.
18:37 Yes.
18:38 Does that take your certificate as an engineer from you?
18:40 It doesn't take.
18:41 But there are some--
18:42 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:43 No, no, no.
18:45 When it comes to law, what is--
18:47 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:49 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
18:51 And you determine their fate.
18:53 You are the lord of them on the earth.
18:56 What is the general?
18:57 You are the law.
18:58 And in that matter, your decision
19:01 can destroy the person forever.
19:03 And your decision can make the person also feel free forever.
19:06 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:08 Yes.
19:08 In that case, as parliamentary candidate,
19:11 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:14 No, no.
19:14 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:16 David, what I want to tell you, there
19:18 are some professional we don't expect by us.
19:23 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:29 We expect said position in few--
19:31 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:32 President.
19:33 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:35 You stand on the ticket of a party.
19:37 That's president.
19:38 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:39 You stand on the ticket of a party.
19:41 Yes.
19:41 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:44 You are the president for all.
19:45 Yes.
19:46 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:51 Justice must not just be what?
19:54 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
19:54 But must be seen.
19:56 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
20:01 But [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
20:04 Not already [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
20:07 Of course, yes.
20:08 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
20:10 Which is perfect.
20:11 All right.
20:11 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
20:12 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
20:14 Which is perfect.
20:14 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]
20:23 [MUSIC PLAYING]
20:26 (explosion)