Tehreek-e-Insaf Ke Wukla Se Trial Mein Kahan Ghalti Hui ?,Jaaniye Tafseel
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00:00 So, tell me where did the PTI lawyers make a mistake?
00:06 What mistake did they make?
00:08 Sir, they are asking the same question.
00:10 One is theft.
00:12 I have committed theft and I have hidden it.
00:15 You must remember that when the Nawaz Sharif's case was going on,
00:20 it was about Ikamey.
00:22 When the case was being heard,
00:24 it was mentioned about Ikamey.
00:26 At that time, Justice Ijaz-ul-Ahsan said,
00:30 "You are accepting this Ikamey thing?"
00:33 He said, "Yes, it is part of the record."
00:36 Now, here, evidence was present everywhere.
00:40 Gadi Lee, as I said,
00:42 Cabinet Deveyan, Tax Fire.
00:44 It was present in the government records.
00:45 It was also declared by the FDR.
00:47 You have paid the gain tax on it.
00:50 Go ahead.
00:51 You have done that.
00:52 But this is not the matter of the case.
00:54 It is not the case of taking a taif from the court or selling it.
00:57 It is the case that you have filled Form B.
01:00 You have nilled the jewellery items that you had to declare.
01:04 This is the actual case.
01:06 He has been punished for this.
01:08 Because of which, he is in Attock Jail today.
01:12 The thing is that his lawyer did not fight the case at all.
01:15 What Mr. Khokhar is saying,
01:17 on top of that, Mr. Khan's simplicity,
01:20 by giving such statements that,
01:22 "I have become half a lawyer.
01:24 I am a lawyer. You have understood me very well.
01:25 I have been subjected to so many cases."
01:26 Now, he has to take a bail.
01:28 The person who has to take a bail,
01:30 Mr. Khokhar, you know that the person who is going to give the bail,
01:32 also sees what is the conduct of this person.
01:34 Is there any FIR on this?
01:36 Is there any case on this?
01:37 So, before taking the bail,
01:39 he knew that he was going to be punished.
01:40 So, Mr. Khan also said that,
01:42 "I have become a lawyer and I have been subjected to about 200 cases."
01:46 Now, when he will apply for a bail,
01:48 you see that you do not go deep into the bail.
01:52 You see the cases from the top of the collective level.
01:55 In that, Mr. Khan has created difficulties for himself.
01:58 And the appeal that has been filed,
02:00 do you know how many lawyers are there from Mr. Khan,
02:02 who will represent?
02:04 Salman Akram Raja,
02:08 What is his name?
02:10 Are you talking about the Supreme Court?
02:11 I am not talking about the Supreme Court, I am talking about the High Court.
02:12 Dr. Babar Awad,
02:14 Latif Khosla,
02:16 Khwaja Haris,
02:17 Barrister Ghor,
02:18 In Punjabi, it is said that,
02:20 "Dua Mulnach Murgi Haram."
02:22 So, when 5-6-7 lawyers come,
02:24 then no case is determined in that way.
02:27 Now, the appeal that has been filed,
02:29 and the grounds that are being taken there,
02:31 if you read that appeal,
02:32 I will be satisfied.
02:33 Mr. Awad,
02:34 They do not want Imran Khan to come out soon.
02:36 I am coming to that, Mr. Chai.
02:38 See, what I have understood,
02:39 Mr. Hafiz, what Hasan is also talking about,
02:42 what you have also explained to this case,
02:44 that if the case was fought reasonably,
02:48 as Hasan is saying,
02:50 effectively,
02:52 through a lawyer, it would have been done.
02:54 I have a question for you.
02:55 Next question.
02:56 I have not given any expert witness.
02:58 When on 22nd October,
03:00 these punishments were disqualified
03:02 in the Election Commission,
03:03 on 21st October,
03:05 the next day the case was filed,
03:07 and there were no documents in that appeal,
03:10 and the Chief Justice still said,
03:12 "Brother, you can put all the documents together."
03:15 Even now, this is happening,
03:17 all this is happening,
03:18 that you should be in the hodgepodge,
03:20 your legal strategy should be of that level.
03:22 And even now, I say this,
03:24 that all the pressure that is being put at the moment,
03:27 that is being put on the decision of that Additional Session Judge.
03:30 But more important than that is,
03:32 that the Additional Session Judge,
03:34 the order on which the reference has come,
03:36 nothing is being done on that.
03:39 Today, if that reference,
03:41 is set aside,
03:43 the order of the Election Commission,
03:45 by the Islamabad High Court,
03:47 then the conviction that has been given
03:49 for three years,
03:50 will automatically be infructious.
03:52 Ok, Hafiz Sahib, let's move ahead.
03:54 Now, you have defined a larger parameter,
03:58 a scale has been defined.
04:00 Now, what we see,
04:02 all the tax returns,
04:04 especially the Goshwaras,
04:05 which have been collected in front of the Election Commission.
04:08 By the way, our many journalist friends
04:10 have also received this from Tosha Khana,
04:12 but the journalist is not taking the elections.
04:14 Don't point towards me, I haven't received anything.
04:16 No, no, I mean, we are part of the journalist community.
04:20 Now, this is that, Hafiz Sahib,
04:22 this scale that has been defined,
04:24 now you are also watching a television program on it,
04:27 and this is part of the official record,
04:29 that the Election Commission has a lot of parliamentarians,
04:33 who are also part of the National Assembly that is going to be over tomorrow,
04:36 and also part of the Senate,
04:38 and will fight the elections.
04:39 They haven't declared it yet.
04:41 So, if my opponent is hopeful,
04:44 if he has hidden something like this in the past,
04:47 then can I go to a court against him on the basis of this case?
04:50 That, "This is a lie, he has made a wrong statement."
04:53 In this, a very strong defense was being taken,
04:58 in the former Prime Minister,
05:00 that the reference against me,
05:02 should have been acted on in 120 days,
05:05 which the Election Commission of Pakistan did not accept,
05:08 although it is written in the law.
05:10 If that standard is now seen,
05:12 which is of the Election Commission of Pakistan,
05:14 Mr. Guman, two things are very important,
05:16 that in every country in the world,
05:18 and especially in the Islamic country,
05:20 our leaders should be above board.
05:22 They should be clear in their assets,
05:25 in their morality,
05:26 in their statements,
05:29 and these are the examples we give to our opponents.
05:31 Hafiz Sahib, please complete the sentence you were giving,
05:34 that if that standard has been set by the Election Commission,
05:37 then this sword,
05:39 this is a lot of...
05:40 What is this sword?
05:41 I think that every person who knows
05:43 that someone has declared their assets wrongly,
05:46 if it has been done in the past,
05:48 and he should come forward,
05:50 and make the case a basis,
05:52 and all those people who have made their mistakes,
05:54 should come against him.
05:56 But in this, the Election Commission of Pakistan
05:59 will only have the power
06:01 that will be served by a member of the National Assembly.
06:06 Now, the person who has gone is not against him,
06:09 but it is possible that
06:11 if he comes back after fighting the election,
06:13 and does not declare his assets,
06:15 then on the basis of that,
06:17 it can be said that at that time,
06:19 he did not declare his assets,
06:21 so action should be taken against him.
06:22 No, Khokhar Sahib can do it in the nomination too,
06:24 you are saying a little wrong,
06:25 I think when he is filing the nomination paper,
06:27 you can whistleblow at that time too.
06:29 No, that is another thing,
06:31 that is your article 62,
06:33 which is talking about the election commission,
06:35 that is of 63,
06:37 it has nothing to do with the prior to the election,
06:39 I am talking in this context.
06:41 Okay sir.
06:43 Yes, Chaudhary Sahib, over to you.
06:45 Hafiz Khokhar Sahib,
06:47 Mashallah, he has given a very good balanced view,
06:49 Hasan Ayub Sahib is already Hafiz,
06:51 on Imran Khan's cases,
06:53 I do not know,
06:55 if you can tell me,
06:57 in the last 16 months,
06:59 he has finished all the cases of all the corrupt people in Pakistan,
07:01 he has forgiven the dacoits of billions of rupees,
07:03 and tomorrow,
07:05 after breaking the assembly,
07:07 a new world will be established.
07:09 What is his opinion,
07:11 Mr. Hafiz?
07:13 We have to go ahead,
07:15 you have to go ahead,
07:17 and these people have to answer to Allah.
07:19 I am writing,
07:21 I am speaking,
07:23 I am speaking in this context,
07:25 that Pakistan's justice system has become dysfunctional,
07:27 this is an outdated system,
07:29 in which,
07:31 only those who are caught,
07:33 are caught, the rest are not caught.
07:35 There is room for improvement,
07:37 this system should be changed,
07:39 time-bonded legislation should be introduced,
07:41 and this country should not be in any place,