Director Anil Sharma and actor Utkarsh Sharma in chat with senior journalist Bharathi S Pradhan, as they decode the success of "Gadar" and the hardwork behind it. The father-son duo talks about returning with "Gadar 2" after 22 years, experience of working with Sunny Deol and what makes the film stand out from other films.
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00:00 The industry said that Gadhar is a gutter.
00:02 And that's how the review came.
00:03 Really?
00:04 The first review I got was that Gadhar was a gutter.
00:09 Sunny sir is the same.
00:13 He never thinks that he will get a clap in this scene.
00:16 He always thinks that he has to be in the character in this scene.
00:19 That's what he thinks.
00:21 With the time, he has matured and become a better actor.
00:23 Gadhar is not a film.
00:27 Gadhar is a film. It's the love of people.
00:30 It's their love.
00:31 So, it's being made.
00:32 It's a public film.
00:33 They can make anyone cry.
00:35 I'm thankful to the people.
00:37 Anil ji, Utkarsh.
00:44 Your film is trending.
00:45 Gadhar 2 is trending.
00:47 How do you feel?
00:48 Gadhar is not my film.
00:50 It's a public film.
00:51 So, the public should make their film trend.
00:53 It's the emotion of people.
00:56 Gadhar is not a film.
00:57 It's the love of people.
00:59 It's their emotion.
01:00 So, it's being made.
01:02 It's a public film.
01:03 They can make anyone cry.
01:05 I'm thankful to the people.
01:07 Tell me, what is it about Gadhar 1 that worked in such a big way at that time?
01:12 Did you have any tension with it?
01:14 Yes.
01:15 And both films had done well.
01:16 Gadhar's film had an emotion, love story, message
01:25 and its connectivity with the people was so much.
01:28 It was so much.
01:29 People thought that it was their film.
01:32 But what happened was,
01:33 even though it was a blockbuster,
01:35 people didn't appreciate Gadhar.
01:37 They didn't appreciate.
01:38 Okay, fine.
01:40 It happened with Mughal-e-Azam.
01:42 They didn't appreciate it either.
01:43 They didn't get any award.
01:44 It happened with Sholay.
01:46 It happened with Gadhar.
01:47 It's a good thing.
01:49 So, the public appreciated it a lot.
01:52 And the public appreciated it so much,
01:55 at that time,
01:56 the industry said, Gadhar is a blockbuster.
01:58 And such reviews came.
01:59 Really?
02:00 Yes.
02:01 It's a matter of pride.
02:02 The first review of Gadhar came to me.
02:04 It was a blockbuster.
02:07 Oh my God.
02:08 And then another review came.
02:10 It was from a big English newspaper.
02:12 It was that this film is not worth reviewing.
02:15 My God.
02:16 People wrote such things.
02:18 Why did they write?
02:19 I still don't understand.
02:21 [CAMERA CLICKING]
02:24 And the two or three journalists who wrote all this,
02:36 they didn't even come in front of me in 22 years.
02:39 I look for them everywhere.
02:41 I see them.
02:42 Ask me lovingly,
02:43 "Brother, what was in your mind?
02:45 Why was it like this?"
02:46 Gadhar was the emotion of the public.
02:49 And if I say undercurrent,
02:51 it was a story of Ramayan.
02:53 Ram says that Sita has to be brought from Lanka.
02:57 The mother of the son has to be brought.
02:59 But it was the same story.
03:00 Lanka could have been Pakistani in today's context.
03:03 It was the same story and nothing else.
03:05 And that's why they connected with people so much.
03:09 How did the idea of Gadhar come to you?
03:13 You had given me one story about it.
03:15 Yes.
03:16 I wanted to make a period film.
03:20 I wanted to create something as a director.
03:22 There were many stories.
03:25 We were making a project called Kashmir.
03:27 Okay.
03:28 It was a very good script.
03:30 We had left the Pandits' plan.
03:33 We had spoken to Dilip sir and Dharam ji.
03:36 Okay.
03:37 Dilip sir had agreed.
03:38 We used to listen to the scenes every day.
03:40 I couldn't work with them.
03:43 One day I told my writer, Shaktimaan sir,
03:46 that I wanted a subplot in the second half.
03:48 I wanted a Kashmir boy and a girl from there.
03:52 Shakti ji told me a real life story.
03:55 He told me the idea.
03:56 I started walking after hearing the idea.
03:58 I told him that Shakti ji will make this film.
04:01 Kashmir will be made later.
04:04 He said that he had spoken to all the actors.
04:06 He said that he will apologize to them.
04:08 Okay.
04:09 But now I can't make any other story other than this one.
04:12 So the subplot became your main plot.
04:15 Yes, it became my main plot.
04:16 I said that this film is not good.
04:18 The story of Kashmir is still relevant.
04:20 Okay.
04:21 The story of Pandits' escape is still relevant.
04:25 But I felt that I had to make it.
04:28 I had also done the star cast.
04:31 But as a director, I wanted to make the subplot.
04:38 I apologized to all the actors.
04:42 I wanted to make a different story.
04:46 So you could never work with Dilip Kumar.
04:48 I could not work with him.
04:49 I regretted it in my life.
04:51 So Anil ji, your subplot became a blockbuster.
04:57 Because to this day, it is a triple A in the box office.
05:01 Yes, yes.
05:02 It was re-released.
05:03 We thought that we will put it on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
05:06 We will put some prints.
05:07 As the prints increased, the theatres reached 400.
05:09 The film ran for 3 weeks.
05:11 The film was house full.
05:13 It was in PBR, here and there.
05:14 It was house full in multiplexes.
05:16 People were clapping and whistling.
05:18 And it continued.
05:20 I did not want to use the name Gadar.
05:26 Like people make it Gadar Part 2.
05:28 I took any story.
05:30 Actually, I wanted to take the story of Tara, Sakina and Jeeta's family.
05:36 I was not able to understand that story.
05:39 Many times, I made many stories.
05:42 Many people told many stories.
05:44 Then it happened.
05:46 22 years passed.
05:48 One day, we were doing puja.
05:50 Navratri Puja.
05:52 Shaktimaan ji comes.
05:54 He had told me.
05:56 He said, "I have got a thought.
05:58 I have finished the puja.
06:00 I have served the girls, the widows etc.
06:02 I have served them.
06:04 I have served them.
06:06 Then we went inside.
06:08 He told me an idea.
06:10 As soon as he told me the idea, I started moving like Gadar.
06:12 That time also you were working on something else.
06:14 I was starting something else.
06:16 I was starting something else.
06:18 Then I came and told madam.
06:20 I told her.
06:22 I told everyone.
06:24 I told Sunny sir.
06:26 As soon as I told everyone, everything was ok.
06:28 As soon as I told everyone, everything was ok.
06:30 You know, your Gadar 1
06:32 You had Sunny Deol.
06:34 You had Shaktimaan as your writer.
06:36 You had Utkush.
06:38 You had Amisha.
06:40 You had the same cinematographer also.
06:42 You had the same cinematographer also.
06:44 You were missing Amrish Puri.
06:46 You were missing Amrish Puri.
06:48 He was such a big part of Gadar.
06:50 He was such a big part of Gadar.
06:52 He was such a big part of Gadar.
06:54 He was such a big part of Gadar.
06:56 He was such a big part of Gadar.
06:58 Who have you got as your antagonist
07:00 Who have you got as your antagonist
07:02 Manish Bhadwa.
07:04 He is a very good actor.
07:06 He has done Chanak.
07:08 He has done Chanak.
07:10 He is a very good actor.
07:12 He is a very good actor.
07:14 You do have a very strong antagonist in the film.
07:16 He is a very strong character.
07:18 He is a very strong character.
07:20 How can it be without him?
07:22 You have come at the right time.
07:24 You will get a beating today.
07:26 You will get a beating today.
07:28 You were there in Gadar 1.
07:30 You were there in Gadar 1.
07:32 You were a kid.
07:34 Do you remember anything at all about it?
07:36 Do you remember anything at all about it?
07:38 I do because you know how your childhood memories
07:40 I do because you know how your childhood memories
07:42 I do because you know how your childhood memories
07:44 are, you remember some hints.
07:46 I don't think I remember much before Gadar.
07:48 I don't think I remember much before Gadar.
07:50 But I do remember everything about Gadar.
07:52 Because it was such a good drama.
07:54 I remember everything.
07:56 I remember everything.
07:58 Right from when I was cast to when I saw it
08:00 Right from when I was cast to when I saw it
08:02 first time in the theatres.
08:04 It was a pure coincidence because
08:06 my parents wanted me to study.
08:08 I was not interested in it.
08:10 I was more into my toys and cricket.
08:12 I was more into my toys and cricket.
08:14 But it was such a situation that
08:16 they needed a child who will be able to do
08:18 whatever stunts they say day and night.
08:20 whatever stunts they say day and night.
08:22 And more than that, they needed a 6 month leave from school.
08:24 And more than that, they needed a 6 month leave from school.
08:26 So, I felt
08:28 the EP's vision I would say.
08:30 that I will do anything.
08:32 But still he asked me
08:34 do I want to act.
08:36 And I said, I rejected it.
08:38 I don't want to.
08:40 But then
08:42 there was an expression on his face
08:44 and there was a certain worry
08:46 that now what, shooting, cinema, etc.
08:48 But then I remember saying
08:50 no I will do it.
08:52 No I will do it.
08:54 You were about 8-9 years old?
08:56 No, I was 4-5.
08:58 Oh that young.
09:00 So, I did it.
09:02 And then they made it extreme
09:04 that I had to do a 72 hour schedule.
09:06 They put him on Sunny's shoulder.
09:08 And the whole train
09:10 40 km long train
09:12 he is on Sunny's shoulder
09:14 and he is jumping from one box to another.
09:16 and he is jumping from one box to another.
09:18 He is going on buses, he is climbing here and there.
09:20 And you were the father, you made him do all that.
09:22 Yes.
09:24 Do you remember anything?
09:26 Sunny's son.
09:28 I remember very well, Amritji's voice.
09:30 He used to riddle
09:32 Amritji.
09:34 Tell us.
09:36 Riddle, jokes, all these things used to go on.
09:38 The great villains
09:40 were great human beings.
09:42 And
09:44 with him I had a very fun
09:46 relationship and
09:48 the rest of the cast
09:50 also, I was a kid.
09:52 And
09:54 whatever
09:56 I had to do, like the sequence above the train
09:58 it was like
10:00 a chopper is flying here
10:02 and taking a shot from the chopper.
10:04 There is a crane here, a tele is installed.
10:06 3-4 cameras
10:08 I think there were 8-9 cameras.
10:10 8-9 cameras. At rest I don't even know
10:12 where they were.
10:14 But I only remember clutching Sunny sir so hard.
10:16 And I must be choking him.
10:18 And I was like
10:20 my life is in your hands now.
10:22 Whatever happens, happens.
10:24 That movie, we shot on so many mountains
10:26 and so many things that
10:28 I was, I didn't like the mountains.
10:30 Any actor
10:32 will say, "First time".
10:34 But then we did that take
10:36 and then we did 3-4
10:38 more of that.
10:40 So I think, what's there in that, in Gadar 2
10:42 I got more done.
10:44 Seeing that, that was the audition.
10:46 That was your granny day.
10:48 Do you remember working with Sunny at that time
10:50 and what's it like working with him now, 22 years later?
10:52 I think it's the same
10:54 because he hasn't changed one bit as a human.
10:56 He's still very humble,
10:58 still very kind. But as an actor
11:00 I've gotten to know him a little better.
11:02 I did not
11:04 there's one thing that I
11:06 observed about him is that whenever
11:08 he has an important scene
11:10 the next day or the day after
11:12 wherever we're shooting is the same location
11:14 he'll come and he'll pace around
11:16 and he'll
11:18 make his graph, you know
11:20 how he wants to perform, he'll figure it out.
11:22 I did not know that about him.
11:24 I did not take him to be
11:26 an actor who loves preparing
11:28 and makes preparation so seriously.
11:30 So I used to observe him
11:32 from afar and
11:34 see what he's trying to think, where he's
11:36 trying to go and what he's constructing and at times
11:38 once I remember just
11:40 yelling out while he was pacing
11:42 around, I was like, "This is right, sir."
11:44 He was not even like that.
11:46 I was like, "This is right, sir. You're doing it right."
11:48 "This is how it should be."
11:50 And
11:52 it was, he's a very
11:54 good team player as an actor.
11:56 He says, he told me one thing
11:58 that in this
12:00 scene, I'm not the only one who has to hit sixes.
12:02 You have to hit sixes, only then this scene
12:04 will be great.
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12:36 He has a way of
12:38 motivating you
12:40 and
12:42 it was a great
12:44 learning experience.
12:46 Because you've seen them and worked
12:48 with them at two different levels.
12:50 Yes.
12:52 Now you're old enough to understand.
12:54 Yes.
12:56 We had a small chemistry
12:58 and that chemistry
13:00 has grown up in this film.
13:02 And I know his
13:04 sons also.
13:06 I know he's a family man.
13:08 And...
13:10 I know how much
13:12 he loves his family.
13:14 So it was easier to connect with him on an emotional level.
13:16 Because at that time
13:18 you wouldn't have realized that he's too small.
13:20 You wouldn't have had that.
13:22 No, no. I did.
13:24 There's a border in theatres.
13:26 I remember
13:28 I went crazy in Border also.
13:30 I remember his bazooka scene clearly.
13:32 (Laughs)
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13:36 At that time, his image was so strong.
13:38 People used to say that his body
13:40 is like Sunny sir's.
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13:48 So his image was so strong.
13:50 Plus, Papa had worked so much with Dharamji.
13:52 And was now working with Sunny sir
13:54 in Gadar.
13:56 So that whole machoism
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14:00 I knew he's the
14:02 Sunny Deol.
14:04 And when I saw Amreesh ji, I was like
14:06 I've seen him in so many films.
14:08 He's not a good guy.
14:10 At that time, I got to know him.
14:12 But yeah, it was quite
14:14 It's funny how
14:16 as kids, you believe so much
14:18 in cinema.
14:20 Suspension of disbelief
14:22 is at a different level.
14:24 Right, right.
14:26 Anil ji,
14:28 In Gadar 1 and 2,
14:30 you know, one
14:32 was well known for that
14:34 water pump scene.
14:36 Like he remembers the bus who come from
14:38 the border.
14:40 I think to this day
14:42 people remember it.
14:44 Do you have that kind of masala
14:46 in this film as well?
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14:50 Do tell us.
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14:58 agay badhti hai apni kahani ke saath agay badhti hai. Uske kahani kise shiru se climax
15:03 takke rasate mein, aap ko jinn cheezon ko masala bolte hai, waise modh aa jate hai.
15:10 Apne aap woh modh aayenge to apne aap woh modh aayenge to apne aap woh apne raste sonenge.
15:14 Modh apna rasta chunta hai, main left me chala gaya to left me right me chala gaya. To woh
15:19 kahani ke beech me modh aate hai. Jo ke apne rasta kuch chun lete hai. Aur usme kabhi comedy
15:25 ho jate hai, kabhi action ho jate hai, kabhi dialogue ho jate hai.
15:28 You know us film mein, Gaddar mein aapne interfaith marriage, cross border marriage, romance, sab
15:36 kuch action sab kuch to aapne bata diya hai. And how Indians feel about Pakistan, Pakistan
15:42 feels about India, sab kuch to bata diya. So what new are you going to tell us in Gaddar
15:46 sto?
15:47 Ghar-e-tariqaari hai.
15:48 No, bhai, thoda so bata diya hai.
15:51 Ghar-e-tariqaari hai, yeh story about father and son.
15:54 Okay, alright.
15:55 Father and son ki bond, yeh dekh parwar ki kahaani hai, Tara, Sakina jeete and concentrating
16:01 on father and son.
16:02 Okay.
16:03 Relationship.
16:04 And where does India Pakistan figure?
16:06 Usme aajaata hai.
16:08 71 ka time period mein.
16:10 71 ka time mein.
16:11 You set it in 1971.
16:12 71 ka time mein, war chal rahi hai, war ka atmosphere chal raha hai, toh automatic aajaata
16:18 hai.
16:19 And you had these fiery dialogues of Sunny's in that, where he gave it back to Amrish Puri
16:25 when he said ki, "Murdabad bol lo, Hindustan Murdabad bol lo." And he gave it to him and
16:30 he said, "Aapki okaati kya hai, we gave you this money, tabhi toh aap paye, nahi toh aapka
16:34 koi okaati."
16:35 Do you have those kind of fiery dialogues in this also or are you trying one on Aamir
16:38 Kiash or no?
16:39 Already trailer mein chal raha hai, dooti. Katora leke ghoomoge, bheek nahi milegi. Aada
16:45 Pakistan khaali ho jayega. Already chal raha hai, aise bahut dialogues hain.
16:50 Kaise azadi diraoge tum? Agar yahaan ke logon ko dubara baukha milena Hindustan mein basne
16:55 ka, toh aadhe se zyada Pakistan khaali ho jayega. Katora lekar ghoomoge, bheek bhi nahi milegi.
17:08 What is your expectation of Garbar 2? At the box office and with the people?
17:13 Bahi dekhiye public, already itne zyada booking khul gayi hai, April Booking Call.
17:17 You opened it very early.
17:19 Do week pehle khul diya and the way advance booking is happening, I am so thankful to
17:26 the people. I am very very thankful.
17:28 And what are your expectations? Is it going to, because your competition is only Gaddar
17:32 1.
17:33 Dekho log Gaddar, us waqt toh Gaddar ki kadar nahi ki logon ne. Aaj Gaddar ki kadar karne,
17:38 aaj Gaddar se iska competition karenge. Kal toh unhone kaha ke Gaddar, Gaddar nahi Gattar
17:42 hai. Aaj kahenge yehi Gaddar kamaal tha.
17:45 Okay, you are waiting for that. And that is going to happen. And what is your expectation
17:50 of Gaddar 2? You have seen both.
17:51 My expectation is ki bhai itne footfalls the, itne numbers the, jo bhi the, sabse zyada
17:56 number hume logon ke dilon mein banane hai.
17:59 Kyuki jab picture, aap kuch ek masterpiece ya legendary dete ho, toh wo picture, wo
18:04 waise picture ke liye toh as an actor work karna chahate ho.
18:07 Aur jo greatest of actors hai, unki life mein ek ya do ya max to max baad lucky hoge
18:13 toh team nahi aake. In the entire career. So I hope ki this ends up being another feather
18:20 in his cap and in all our caps as well as actors. That's how I am.
18:27 Do you have your repeated, gadi leke, main nikla hai?
18:31 Gadi leke bhi tubaar aaya hai.
18:32 That has to be.
18:33 Aur, udh jaa kaale kaam abhi.
18:37 Okay. So you have repeated these two. But you have a little bit of…
18:43 Mithun le banaye hai unko, dubara se, par gawaaye udh itne Narayan Singh.
18:48 Anshkaan, original singer. Oh, very good. Okay, okay.
18:51 Udh jaa kaale kaam, tere muh bich khand paam.
18:58 You know you have also OMG2 coming. That's also a franchise which is coming. So does
19:04 that bother you at all?
19:05 Nahi, nahi. Hindustan mein 100 crore public hai, 150 crore public hai. Unke liye 2 film
19:10 kya, 200 film bhi ek saath release ho toh ko problem nahi.
19:13 Oh, waise bhi Nagan aayi thi aapki saath.
19:14 Ya nahi.
19:15 Do film chalne.
19:16 Main kabhi sochta hi nahi hoon. Main nahi sochta aise. Main khud jab 2 film chalti hoon,
19:20 Open Hammer aur Barbie chali, dono chale gaye dekhne. Main khud chale jaata hoon, 2 film
19:25 le dekhne.
19:26 Right.
19:27 Mekhi toh acha hai. Friday bhi kaam hua, Sunday bhi kaam hua. Do din ho gaya.
19:30 Okay. That's how you look at it. Okay.
19:32 Do you look at Gaddar 2 as the only competition to Gaddar 2 is Gaddar 1?
19:38 Haan, aaj toh aise hi lagta. Public toh yehi karegi. Public toh Gaddar 1 se hi Gaddar 2
19:44 ko compare karegi. Aur ye bhi bol sakte, "Arre yaar kya gaddar thi wo". Toh aaj us gaddar
19:49 ki bahut kadar karenge, main is baat se bahut khush hoon. Aaj ki gaddar ke baare mein kya
19:53 bolenge mujhe nahi malom. Pehli gaddar ke baare mein jab gaddar bola, toh aaj ki gaddar
19:57 ke baare mein bhi kya bolenge, woh malom nahi malom. Lekin itna malom hai. Toh yeh zarur
20:01 kahenge, "Wah, kya gaddar thi pehli". Toh wahi sunke main bahut khush hoon.
20:06 Wo gaddar wali baat bahut chupti thi na? Haan, chupti toh nahi hai. Hasee aati hai.
20:10 Yeh sab baatein kya chubhengi? Acha.
20:12 Mujhe moorta lagti hai kisi ki bhi. Right.
20:14 Kehta hai, "Main review nahi kar sakta. Kehta hai, "Koi gaddar hai". Yeh sab baatein
20:17 mujhe foolishness lagti hai. You know, after Gaddar, I think some places
20:23 had banned Sunny Deol. They didn't want to entertain Sunny Deol. They felt he's anti-Pakistan,
20:28 yeh, wo, etc. Kuch, kuch. India mein toh nahi hai.
20:30 Gulf mein, kuch Gulf mein. Pakistan mein.
20:33 Pakistan mein. Yeh, humaari Gaddar 2 jaari hai, release
20:34 ho rahi hai. Acha, okay. And of course, not in Pakistan,
20:38 na? Pakistan mein toh. Pakistan mein, sabse
20:40 zyada hit Pakistan mein hi hoti hai. Har Pakistani ne. Pehli gaddar dekhi hai, har
20:44 Pakistani. India se zyada wahan pe dekhi hi.
20:47 We'll see it even more. On YouTube, you can see ki Gaddar 2 ke
20:51 reaction videos hain, trainer aur aisam ke, they have been so overwhelmingly well received
20:57 in Pakistan. Pakistan.
20:58 That it's incredible. For them also, they are seeing it as a film.
21:03 Okay. And which is great. I'm sure they're going
21:06 to watch it anyway.
21:08 India, akhrar jumma, mili mein. Akhrar jumma, mili mein.
21:13 Junkya aasar hai Tara Singh ji. Backup ki tayari karna chahata hai.
21:17 Tusi Tara Singh ko pahichande nahi? Dushmanan ko puchho, Tara Singh kaun hai?
21:26 So, how is Jeete of 2001, how is Jeete of 2023?
21:34 Jeete of 2001, uske kuch trades the jo obviously carry forward karenge.
21:40 Jessica? First thing is that he loves his
21:44 handi and he's very protective for his mother. Now he's around 20-21 year old and he's at a
21:51 place where he's a young adult. He's not really an adult. He's not really a kid anymore.
21:56 Right. Toh ek jawaani aur adolescence ke usme
22:02 juhu jara hai. Ki main kaha hu, he's trying to find his own voice.
22:06 And usme usse mistakes bhi hoti hain, cheezar bhi. But he still loves his family more than
22:14 anything and he still loves his country. Country, yes, yes. Do you want to say anything
22:19 at all about what it was like working with Sunny 21 years ago, 20 and now? What is the
22:24 change you've seen in him? What do you like about Sunny that you like working with him?
22:28 Sunny sir toh same hi hai. Waisi hi, woh kabhi yeh nahi sochte ke mujhe scene mein tali milegi.
22:32 Woh ameza sochte hai ke main scene mein character mein chalna ho, nahi chalna ho. Bas woh yahi
22:36 sochte hai. With the time more matured ho gaye, more better actor ho gaye.
22:40 You find him a better actor, yeah? Yeah.
22:42 Okay. And you find him as fiery as he was?
22:46 Woh bilkul, bilkul waise hi hai. Yeah?
22:47 Koi farak nahi hai. Sunny sir mein koi ek rupe ka farak nahi hai.
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23:07 Anil ji, what was it like shooting these very major action scenes? Any problems when you
23:13 shoot such major action?
23:14 Nahi, bilkul nahi. Mainne toh balki Gaddar ke andar yeh baat main kehna chahunga. Gaddar
23:18 one mein bhi, Gaddar two mein bhi. Mainne dono filmon mein saare action real shoot ki.
23:23 Koi Gaddar ka raw action chahiye. Raw action VFX se nahi ho sakta. Thoda difficult hota
23:28 hai, thoda muskil hota hai, magar uska maja bhi alag hota hai. Mainne 500 se zyada toh
23:33 bomb pode aunge. 25-30-40 ganiyan udadi. Itna zyada kiya hai, tank bana ke tank udaya.
23:40 In Gaddar one? In Gaddar two? Okay.
23:43 Itna zyada real action kiya Gaddar two mein bhi, Gaddar one mein bhi, ki VFX toh na ke
23:48 barabar hai. 90% real hai, 10% se cable, webil, wo sab hota hai. Toh generally aaj kal sab
23:55 log VFX ka action karte hai. Mainne location pe jaake, dhol matti ke beech mein reh ke.
24:00 Toh wo dust ka effect, wo saara real fire ka effect, wo alag hi hai. Toh Gaddar ki yeh
24:07 sabse badi vishishtha hai. Do baatein humne Gaddar mein jo kiye hain, ek toh kushis ki
24:15 isko under jitra bhi control budget mein film ko banaaye. Result deyum bahut bada, wo hum
24:20 kamyaab ho paye hain. Doosi cheez ki hum action ko jitna ho real karein. Jitna ho real karein.
24:30 Humne kitne truck, kitni gadiyan, kitne tank, kitna crowd, 4-5, 5,000 ka crowd bulla ke
24:37 unko bhagaya hai, dodaya hai, karaya hai. Isliye uska effect bahut real hai. Do you
24:41 want to tell me what the budget is? Budget toh bahut reasonably hai aur mai kehta hu
24:52 iski. Toh zee bole toh better hai. Log jo market mein bolte hain, 75, 80, 100 aisa kuch
24:59 nahi hai. Usse kam? Acha, with all this action? From technicians and actors to agree that
25:10 most of the budget will go to the production of the film and not to the audience. Kya hua
25:15 humne sabse zyada kaam jo kiya, sab logon ki feeses mein bahut control kiya. Fees, yeah,
25:23 but suddenly this fee will be what it is. Chalo theek hai, wo toh ek aadmi ki kar li,
25:29 lekin unhone bhi kaafi compromise kiya aisa nahi hai. Log kya hai, aaj kal hero ki fees
25:35 itni zyada ho jati hai, director ki fees itni ho jati hai. 600, 500, 400 crore ki picture
25:39 ban jati hai, usme 150, 200 crore hero le jaati hai. Humne kya socha, hum production
25:44 mein paise lagayenge. Which is why we went for real action also, so that you know, VFX
25:49 will be the boss. Army ne huma bho support kiya. Army ki itne tanks humko mile, jawan
25:53 itne mile, locations mili, toh I am very thankful to Indian Army. And controlling a big crowd
25:59 you were able to do that? Nahi, wo toh Ghadar mein huma 50, 50,000 aadmi the. Ab kya toh
26:04 main usme liye 8, 8, 9, 9 camera le jaata hu, pura execution ki main team rakhta hu,
26:09 ho jaata hai sab. Crowd control ho jaata hai, aur unke crowd 1971 ki dresses, sab ki wo.
26:17 Ab sab ho jaata hai, jab aap sochte hai toh ho jaata hai. So you need local help. Sab
26:22 local help, bahot kiya. Uttar Pradesh mein humne shooting ki, ministry se hume bahot
26:26 help mili, police commissioner se, yogi ji se bahot help mili. Hume Mukul ji the, jo
26:33 DGP the, unhone hume bahot help di. Humne matlab main roads block karke, humne puri
26:39 shooting ki, waha pe blast ki, main bridge pe blast ki, us kise kiya hoga aap soch ho
26:44 jaata hai. Right, right. So you needed a lot of state help which you got? I got, I am very
26:48 thankful. Which are the places you have shot at? I shot in Lucknow, UP mein bahot shoot
26:53 kiya. I shot in Maharashtra, Ahmednagar mein bahot shoot kiya. I shot in Punjab, I shot
26:57 in Himachal, Palampur mein bahot shooting ki. Okay. And you got state help from everywhere?
27:03 Sab jagah. Okay. So, aaj kal ka kya hai, government mein ek achcha hai. Har state aaj
27:09 kal film ko bahot help karti hai. Right. Sare states film ko bahot help karti hai. Subsidy
27:15 bhi deti hai. Pata nahi mujhe yeh nahi samajhata ke, main darkhwas karunga Maharashtra government
27:23 se bhi, wo bhi kuch kare. Aaj UP itna karti hai, sab itna karti hai. Aur ek film ki baat
27:28 karo, ek shooting ki baat karo, jahan bhi kahi ho, poori government khadi ho jati hai
27:33 aapko shoot karwaane ke liye. Kaash Bombay mein bhi aesa ho sakhe. Ab jaise Ahmednagar
27:37 mein tha aesa, hum kuch bhi, chhote chahiron mein, Maharashtra mein bhi, jo bhi aap chaah
27:41 usse mil jata hai. Sivahe thoda sa, Bombay shayad isliye ki yeh itni badi hai, itni vishal
27:46 hai, kisi ki control mein nahi hai. To government ke bhi control mein nahi hai, to shayad nahi
27:49 ho pata ho. Lekin ek cheez to kar sakti hai, sarkar ke thoda subsidy shuru kar de, bhai
27:53 humse sarkar ho. Yes, yes, I hope Devendra Ferdinand and Shinde sahab will submit. Kar
27:58 hai wo, humse bol raha ho, bhai sahab, kar do yaar. Would you like to guess, just as a
28:04 general, guess what your box office is going to be? Bahut acha hoga, public bahut karegi,
28:11 mujhe. Utkarsh, risk to figure. I don't want to risk to figure, I want to just say ki public
28:19 ke dilon mein ban jaye jage, usse bada box office kuch. Bas. Aur public ke dilon mein
28:24 hai, dekho na abhi, abhi 10 din pehle humne booking khol diya, kitna advance ho raha hai.
28:29 To bas ho raha hai na. There's a ding buzz about it. I hope ki jitna collection ho ki
28:33 aur 10 aise film mein ban sakhe hain, and industry humari aur aagye ho raha tha. Aap dono mujhe
28:38 figure se, you both of you are avoiding giving me your figure. We don't want to give you
28:44 your figure. I toh chahata hun 500 crore kare. Main toh chahunga. Lekin, public kitna
28:59 pyaar badsati hai, public ke. Har producer chahata hun uske film 500 kare, 5000 kare.
29:03 Har producer chahata hai. Main bhi chahata hun aur chahane mein koi burai bhi nahi hai.
29:08 Baaki ishwar jani. All the best. Thank you.
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