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00:00 Hello there, thank you for joining me on the AM show and just gone by you saw my colleague Samuel Mbura of our political desk
00:07 Give you a wrap of what transpired
00:09 Yesterday at the NPP's headquarter. So it's a done deal now. We know we are going into the super delegates
00:17 Congress which is slated for some time in August and we will be finishing you with all the details
00:23 This is your election headquarters
00:24 But this morning we want to have a conversation about what the next few steps will look like for the new patriotic party and I've been
00:32 Joined by dr. Kosia macha parting. He's a political scientist at KNUST and
00:37 Kodjoe Poku who is a flag bearer aspirant himself and let me start with you. Mr. Poku and
00:44 You you have gone through the process finally on the ballot sheet
00:49 What does it feel like for you at this stage in the race to be the NPP's flag bearer?
00:55 When and good morning to your viewers
01:00 I think it feels the same way I felt when I started this process last year February
01:06 When I told I made an announcement that I will be contesting for the flag bearer ship of the party
01:12 It is the naysayers that did not believe that I'll do it
01:15 But look for me every day and every event is one more feather in my heart to show that a young man
01:22 Like me can be very determined to do this and I am doing this
01:25 A lot of people thought I was step down along the way which has not happened and everybody can now see that look
01:32 That the young man means business
01:34 So, mr. Poku, you know, you just mentioned the naysayers and there were some rumors
01:43 Initially that you were going to be dropped from the list. I don't know if you had any of those
01:47 But was there any point?
01:49 That you felt that it was gonna be a tough one for you get into this point
01:55 Not at all. I mean, I said a lot of people have their phones and they just basically look at other things on the internet
02:04 But they feel to Google who could you poke is if you have done your research and background of who I am
02:09 You know that I don't step up to do things lightly before I step up to do anything
02:14 I have done my in-depth analysis of my soul of my resources and my my family to know that I can do this
02:20 I'm gonna I want to correct which your reporter said was that look there has not been any
02:25 Problem between a nine and a one and nine and the party there has never been
02:30 Issues the reason the Monday balloting was not done was because most of the aspirants were out in the regions
02:39 Now the election committee was in a greater on Monday
02:42 But you see if you ballot it means that all else is okay
02:47 And then we move on to the process
02:49 We felt that there are sticking issues in terms of guidelines
02:53 Because when we went to counsel there were other things that the council referred to the election committee
03:00 So we will the view that we need to meet with the election committee bring these things to fall
03:05 Basically, I own them out before we move into
03:08 The balloting that was why the balloting is not happening on Monday
03:12 It wasn't because some people were gonna step down there were issues between us and the party or there was no such thing
03:18 What people don't seem to understand is that this one family and this family will stay together
03:22 There are no issues the media keep bringing up issues that we don't even know about
03:26 So the most important thing is look the balloting is done. I'm number four and I think everybody would take notes
03:32 Mr. Poku you say there were no issues, but I mean there were times that I personally had to engage
03:38 Chairman of the Council of Elders over concerns that were raised by some of the aspirants
03:43 Concerning the
03:47 Delegates list and a couple others so they may not have been as
03:54 You know the friction may not may not have been us using the media all people are putting it
04:00 But there sure were issues to be settled when they
04:03 Know there were issues that we felt look
04:06 We did a petition and like I said when these things happen
04:10 It is a family matter and we resolve it when we felt the nine felt that there was an issue that needs to be discussed
04:17 We went through the right channels
04:19 We put it on paper and gave it to the chairman of the party and rightfully so he escalated it to the council
04:25 Which is the highest decision body of the party?
04:27 Sorry, the second highest decision body of the party and they ruled on the matter that look they think that this is how we should
04:34 Be some of us wanted centralized voting
04:36 They know it should be regional voting because the precedent is that is always been central we stick by that decision
04:42 We work hard we forge on and make it happen
04:44 I mean, I don't think the media always make things look more than what it is. That's what I want to point out
04:50 Interesting. Let me bring
04:53 Dr. Chrissy Amatua in here and
04:56 Okay, I'm told that we'll get him shortly. So let me continue with you
05:00 So what are the coming days look like for you now?
05:03 You are on the ballot, which means that you've been given the all-clear to contest
05:08 What is your what is your plan really moving forward?
05:11 Well, we've done for me. I have done the country twice. I've been to all 16 regions
05:18 I am in constant communication with all the delegates that constituency chairman who are also voting
05:24 My message to them have always been the same
05:28 Let's have a two-way communication. Let's have a relationship when it comes to could you book who that use and dump?
05:35 It's out of the scene. I don't believe in that
05:38 I believe in forging relationship keeping them and basically mentoring these relationships and that for me has been my message
05:47 From tomorrow. I'm moving out to the Bono is Bono area
05:51 I have my list in each region those that I want to basically concentrate on I can't not concentrate on all
05:58 930 I've been talking to the delegates and I have feel that there are some that I have got a relationship with and I want
06:05 to basically groom that relationship and from today my
06:08 plan is to basically
06:11 Work on those that I think can be in the KNP family and also groom those that are already in the KNP family
06:17 So that's the plan going forward. All right, I'll come back to you. But let me now engage. Dr. Chrissy a match of watching
06:23 He's a political scientist at KNUSD doc. Thank you so much for your time this morning
06:28 And I just like to take your quick thoughts. Okay, the the party has finally gone through the ballot and process
06:33 Mr. Kojo Poku believes that the media is
06:36 probably
06:39 Creating a problem that doesn't exist in his estimation
06:42 He thinks that this is just a family problem that needed to be addressed concerns about whether they should go for a centralized or decentralized
06:49 voting for the super delegates conference and also concerns about the delegates list and
06:54 And a whole lot but from where you sit as a political scientist
06:59 How will you assess how the party has handled all these concerns culminating to this point where we have?
07:05 You know these flag by flag bearer aspirants all on the ballot
07:10 Much I let me say good morning to your viewers and listeners
07:16 The whole series unfolding us
07:20 Generalist became your sex political activity in a political party preparing for elections to unfold
07:26 People have caused to be unsure
07:32 The establishment has openly demonstrated its
07:35 Interest in a particular person at that time
07:39 Mr. Ken of Riyadh, I think Leo pinion does dr. Bomiya and so the other contestants
07:46 obviously want to
07:49 You know, I mean express some sort of apprehension if there's any little
07:54 Development that is done fully and the famine they don't think they are very well represented
07:59 but then so far I think the party has addressed these issues properly because them
08:04 Normally conflicts we say, you know, I'm normal
08:08 You know, I'm not only in political party activities, but also in the life of any group of individual
08:14 But then when the conflict come the way they are addressed become the issue
08:18 But I find this I do that, you know that development enabled a system
08:24 Grow to mature to become stronger lane and then in future be able to address similar
08:30 You know issues and when they come one
08:33 I mean the fact that it's gotten all the contestants to come together go through the balloting, you know itself is
08:41 Demonstration of progress being made by the party. I think the party is new
08:49 Now let me find out because we have thankfully we have one of the flag bearer aspirants here you just made a statement about the
08:56 establishment
08:58 Choosing one of the candidates over the others. Mr. Kodopo. Do you feel and that that is what is happening?
09:04 In
09:10 Feel intangible. So basically nobody can put their hand on it
09:14 It's a perception. I mean people have their perception and look everybody is
09:20 It's a liberty to have your own perception if they think that's the case
09:25 I honestly see doctor as a colleague in this race because he's a candidate when we went to ballot he couldn't come he sent his
09:32 Rep his chief of staff. Mr. Federal wiring to come and do it. We are all colleagues in this race
09:38 Yes, he doubles up as vice president. So when he goes to places he went to hats
09:43 So all the protocol that has to be in place as a vice president is in place
09:47 I've been had the cause to be asked that am I worried about the
09:50 Trooping of all executives and party machinery behind him. I said no
09:55 It's the protocol when the vice president comes everybody gets up. Everybody follows him. There's nothing wrong with that
10:01 but as a colleague and as a
10:04 Aspirant if he thinks that the people following him are gonna vote for him by virtue of him being vice president
10:09 Then that's a different matter
10:10 I have a reason to believe that people vote their conscience people will basically do the right thing on the day
10:16 Look, there is challenges and normally is not to do with the aspirant is to do with people around the aspirants
10:23 one zealous over trying to
10:26 Impress and they are the problem not the aspirant
10:31 So our concern is not really with the aspirants or the colleagues in this race
10:35 Our concern has always been with the supporters and people around the aspirants who are trying to basically catch the eye of the aspirant
10:43 Post election, but one thing is for sure
10:45 We're gonna have a free and fair election and measures are being put in place to achieve that right? Let me now bring in a director
10:51 of
10:52 Elections are the NPP. Mr. Evans. No, my good. Thank you so much for joining us
10:57 So, mr
11:00 Poku has expressed confidence that there will be a free and fair election
11:05 We heard from some of the other aspirants in the clip that just aired before we started the conversation
11:09 We heard from mr. Alan Kodjo-Tramanting and we heard from Mr. Kwabena Ejepon
11:14 Your party has been in the news quite recently for some reasons
11:21 bothering on
11:24 What some of the aspirants think should be the manner in which the election should be conducted and what?
11:30 The party finally made a decision on as we hear from all of them. They are now on the same page
11:36 But there's just an interesting aspect that has got a lot of tongues wagging. It's about a certain
11:44 Undertaking call it that these aspirants both presidential and parliamentary
11:50 Have to sign saying that they will not be
11:55 independent candidates or
11:58 Run on the ticket of any other party if they fail to become either a presidential
12:04 Candidate or a parliamentary candidate what exactly is informing this decision by the party?
12:11 Thank you for having me and I'm happy
12:18 Mr. Kodjo-Tramanting has
12:20 put it
12:23 Definitely as it is that the fears of the presidential aspirants have been unleashed
12:30 This is in view of the fact that the presidential election committee
12:34 That was put together by the National Council
12:38 Has engaged and will continue to engage our aspirants until the D-Day
12:45 August 26, November 4, 2023
12:48 The issues that were raised earlier were put to rest by the National Council
12:55 Which they all appreciate is the body close with authority to give such direction
13:02 on the issue of how the elections is supposed to be conducted the National Council may declare to all stakeholders
13:10 that
13:12 For the precedence you've had
13:14 You'll be conducting the special electoral college in all the 16 regions as well as the national headquarters
13:21 with respect to
13:24 Voting by the delegates. I think the party constitution is clear that
13:29 expressive of the number of categories that a
13:32 delegate may belong
13:35 Each voter is entitled to one vote and it is also emphasized in the article 13 clause 2
13:44 sub clause 2 that all delegates will vote for one
13:48 Contestant when there are more than one candidate for such election. So all those issues were put to rest
13:56 as there
13:59 were some key issues that needed to be addressed. How to do was how the EEC will conduct the exercise on
14:07 the election day and I think when we met with the aspirants as Mr. Kojupoku has
14:14 informed you it is being made clear all the rough edges have been smoothing and and they can confidently
14:22 Assure their supporters that the party is ready
14:28 conduct a very free fair transparent primary the issue of
14:33 Signing
14:37 Constructural agreement with the party is something that the candidates did in their nomination form
14:45 They appeared before the voting committee this war and oath to make sure that at all times
14:53 Party unity will be central in their discussion, but they can also let you know
14:59 That when the party met at Council
15:02 Council emphasized that going forward
15:06 Having been cleared by the election committee and getting the endorsement of the National Council
15:13 We expect candidates at all times
15:16 Respect the code of conduct that has been put together by the party that in this way
15:23 They might be mindful of their campaign messages to stick to their policy and issues and not to attack
15:30 Individuals and so that was why the party is bringing the back to them
15:36 But they should be mindful of the contractual arrangement that is signed that they will respect the process
15:43 Put together by the party to conduct primaries that will be free fair and transparent
15:49 We are being informed by our history
15:53 that in
15:55 some instances where
15:57 primaries are conducted
15:59 Some candidates will then depart from the party line
16:03 And so this arraignment is to bring them in line with party rules and regulations
16:09 That when all is said and done
16:12 They will so be binded by the rules and regulations the code of conduct as well as the party
16:19 Mr. Nymako, has this always been the case or you were
16:24 you know
16:26 Instructed if I may say by the incident of the Fomina MP for which reason you included this in the nomination forms
16:33 This has always been the case
16:36 But when council concluded
16:39 Council was to remind our
16:42 Presidential affidavits that this is what they have committed themselves to
16:48 Yes, but but don't these candidates
16:52 reserve the right to
16:56 make such decisions if
16:58 they choose to after
17:00 They they lose an election. I'm saying this because and I have a copy of your
17:06 undertaking and I like to read it so that my audience can get a
17:10 grasp of what we are talking about here, so I
17:15 Haven't expressed or indicated my interest or desire to contest in the presidential primary elections of the new patriotic party and
17:21 Subsequently contest as a presidential candidate for the new patriotic party in the 2024 general elections
17:27 I do undertake and assure the MPP with utmost good faith that in the event of being
17:33 Unsuccessful at the primaries one. I shall not offer myself as an independent candidate on the ticket of any party
17:40 For the purpose of the 2024 general elections - I shall not under any circumstance be in breach of this undertaking
17:47 Should I be should I be permitted to take part in the new patriotic parties presidential primary elections?
17:53 Three in the event of a breach of this undertaking by me the new patriotic party reserves the right to restrain me
18:00 From contesting as an independent candidate or as a candidate on the ticket of any other political party is a third point
18:07 I am interested in how does the party even intend to restrain persons from?
18:13 Contesting on the ticket of another party if they fail just by
18:17 Signing to this what I what is the party's understanding of restraining people in the circumstance?
18:24 Well, thank you. I think that
18:27 Actually go to this stage because we are human
18:33 It's a political party. We are dealing with
18:37 Senior party members who have been given opportunity
18:41 to participate in this and when you they are true party person and
18:48 they respect and appreciate the party's
18:52 philosophy and ideology, but as human as we are
18:56 these
18:58 individuals have support
19:00 These across the country sometimes it may not be on their own
19:05 But may be driven by the support base. And so this is to remind them that
19:12 notwithstanding
19:15 circumstances surrounding
19:17 Whatever the outcome of the election. They must all have in mind that having gotten the opportunity by the party
19:24 Be in this exercise
19:28 We are also obliged to comply but they also have freedom of association
19:32 Don't be but back to my question about how the party intends to restrain them
19:37 So say if I were a candidate, I don't want to use any other person. So I'll be set to be by us
19:43 Let me just use myself if I were a candidate and I lost the elections and I made a decision
19:48 That I was gonna leave the party because I have signed this how how will the party restrain me?
19:54 I just want the practical steps that the party will take in in case of an incident like that
20:00 Okay, so this is a political party and we are getting our
20:05 Presidential affront to appreciate that for being allowed to participate in this exercise
20:13 You're obliged to respect the rules and regulations and code of conduct put together by the party and let me give you this
20:21 My couple are bound by the vows
20:24 They say to each other isn't it and they're perfect as all times obey
20:30 The new patriotic party has gone into this contractual arraignment with our presidential candidate
20:37 This is as we are wed before and oath that they respect and abide by the rules put together by the party
20:45 We therefore expect them at this stage
20:47 They haven't been allowed by the party to be in this process. They are not
20:52 To be in breach of these rules of engaging
20:56 We hope they will go by this in events that any of them wants to
21:02 Contribute this exercise the party will take an action within the law to address it as we put this black and white on the paper
21:13 How this place within the law because I'm just thinking about a person's freedom to associate and a person's
21:21 freedom to you know
21:23 Make decisions as stipulated in the Constitution and whether this
21:26 Contained in this contract as you refer to it is not in contravention of the Constitution
21:32 Let me take the thoughts of dr. Amacha putting on on this doc in your
21:38 Entire experience as a political scientist have you ever come across a clause like this in any
21:45 Contract or agreement between a person and a political party he belongs to and what are your quick thoughts about?
21:51 I don't have to claim that
22:00 I've been reading every document that might have something of this nature
22:04 I've been watching every political system and so might have come to terms on development like this
22:10 But I know we're standing some of these things
22:12 Like you know membership of a political party also implies that you are going to
22:21 align yourself with the rules of
22:23 the game the rules and regulations that a political party operates with and
22:29 and they would
22:33 Irrational and it would like to make sure that they don't break their ranks going into the next election and
22:40 and and you want to address or
22:42 Confess that the best of the understanding might become a constraint one of them
22:48 Looking up. Well, I think it's only fair on their part to get a contestant to sign on to
22:57 And and and I don't think it is oh, I don't think it is out of place if you are a member of the party hello
23:04 Mr. Mesa, dr. Much of watching I beg your pardon we can hear you
23:10 If you have above the party and then you have come out to contest, you know as a presidential material
23:18 You understand that at the end of the day only one person
23:22 Going go through at the end of the day. You have any concern about how things are
23:29 You know unfolding and essentially this is you about the pre-empire election
23:34 You know relates to the rules of the electoral game and their implementation
23:39 You still have time you still have opportunity to address any issue that you have difficulty with
23:45 Then the leaders here presented by the council who address it and as it is so far
23:51 the council has really been working and
23:54 to the best of my understanding I don't have a
23:57 information about
24:00 special development in the
24:02 Country the benefits of the doubt and see that you have addressed all such concerns
24:07 so far today, so I think
24:09 It is fair. It is fair on the part of the party want to keep this rank together
24:17 Especially after the election once you have ten people contested now the stakes are high and and everybody is going into win
24:24 And how hopeful he is and that is the way it should be so
24:31 They don't want also entertain
24:35 Anything that will give an impression, you know that the rules are being twisted in favor of any other person
24:43 So there's a high possibility that someone and a green person who loses
24:49 My want to break away the party is is in to also win the national
24:54 Presidential election, so I think they are doing the right thing for themselves
24:59 I mean, let me I'm guessing mr. Kojo Poku may not want to comment on this, but let me give it a try
25:06 Mr. Kojo Poku, I mean within
25:09 The the legal arena we've just heard from Dr. Amartya Patil who's a political scientist, but legally is this
25:16 Is this possible at all because I'm thinking about and we just heard from your director of elections and research who said that
25:24 restraining here could probably mean
25:27 Going legal with with whichever contestant parliamentary or presidential that decides to break away from the party in case they lose
25:36 But is this legally sound?
25:38 Bennington you came up and said freedom of association
25:43 We individuals freely associated ourselves with the MPP. Nobody forced us into MPP
25:51 So the minute you join a group association any organization you are bound by the rules of that association
25:58 What my brother?
26:00 Director of election is trying to say is very clear as long as you are a member of that party
26:06 You are bounded by the rules of that party
26:09 Look the issue that we signed the undertaking is only a rehash of the laws of the party or the laws of any association
26:17 If you are willing to be part of that association, then you don't do anything that contravenes the association
26:24 It is only a political party
26:26 You cannot be part of an association and then decide that you're gonna do something in contra to the association and still be part of
26:32 That association so it's very simple
26:34 Where you've really joined you can freely leave
26:37 It's not what the last point is denying you off and let me just read it again maybe
26:44 You came freely yes, nobody forced you into MPP look if I was born into MPP and I am hereditary by
26:54 MPP then if that issue comes in that oh look I didn't have a choice to be part of MPP
26:59 I was born into it by hereditary. So you cannot say that I have to but you came freely
27:04 Nobody was born into MPP you joined freely
27:07 so if you cannot abide by the rules of the party by all means you cannot be part of the party and
27:12 Contravene its rules and its rules is that you need to stick to the rules of the party. It's very simple
27:20 The rules here mean that you cannot leave to form another association or you cannot join doesn't that
27:26 Contravene your basic human rights
27:29 My sister nobody's saying you cannot leave everybody can leave
27:33 He what the law is saying is that you cannot have your cake and eat it - all the parties saying that you cannot be
27:39 Part of the party and decide to run independent or go and do something else. So so
27:43 So in other words a decision to go independent or join another party means you forfeit
27:50 Your membership of the party, but isn't that what it is?
27:54 Basic common sense you can be part of a party and go independent. What does independent means?
28:00 Independent means that you are no longer part of an association
28:03 So really and truly the party doesn't need to tell you that when you sit in your house and you make that decision
28:08 It's clear and every time that that has happened
28:11 People have gone independent and to come back into the party you have to join then you have to go through five years of
28:17 Good standing to be meaningful to anything. So look I have a typical example when last year
28:23 It is impossible in 2021 December the group of our senti youth came to me and said hello
28:28 We've heard you want to do this
28:29 but I what we want you to do it as an independent and I said no I will do it in the party and
28:34 They agreed and they all supported me to do it in a party if I have said, okay
28:39 I'll do it with them the number of years that have been part of the party is cancelled and wiped out
28:44 I go out of the party if I decide to come back then I start afresh
28:48 But it means that nobody can trust you you need to toil you need to basically go through the rankles the heddles of a party
28:56 That's what it is
28:57 You cannot everything not everything that the party does that you'd be happy with like we will gradually discuss some of us wanted a centralized
29:05 Voting the council which is part of the Constitution says that no we are the ones that decide where venues are held
29:11 This is what we've decided everybody clap and move on
29:14 That's the association. That is what comes with it. So look you want to be part of an association you stick with the rules
29:21 Yeah, it's interesting you say this because I mean if the party had stuck to
29:26 Restraining you from being an independent candidates then I can understand the argument you're making here
29:33 but the party goes on to say that or
29:36 Contestant on the ticket of another political party
29:40 What I know exists is that one cannot run on the ticket of another political party while being a member of another
29:46 So is the party suggesting in the introduction of that?
29:51 phrase and not the political party suggesting that even if you leave the party to join another party and contest as a
29:59 On that party's ticket. They will still come after you help me understand that bit as well. Okay, so
30:04 Let me use this. I'm a Ghanaian
30:06 the Constitution of Ghana applies to me as long as I'm a Ghanaian a
30:11 Nigerian who lives in Nigeria a
30:14 Constitution of Nigeria applies to him
30:17 Whatever happens if I leave Ghana and go to Nigeria and I renown my citizenship of Ghana
30:23 The laws of Ghana no longer applies to me the laws of Nigeria applies to me
30:28 What all be everything the party is saying only applies to you as long as you are a member of the party
30:35 So what the party is telling you that look this is our these are my rules
30:40 If you are a patriot, these are the rules if you cease to be a patriot
30:45 That's it. I mean then the party rules are not right. I walk around with a party handbook
30:51 I'm no longer a member of the party. Why would I be doing the party handbook in my bag?
30:56 So you are guided by the party constitution as long as you are a member of the party
31:00 You are a freedom of association
31:03 You can join any party you want but the minute you leave the party all these things we are discussing is mutant
31:09 It doesn't apply to you
31:10 But that's what I'm asking. Is it practical that there will be a patriot who will be
31:16 Taken by another political party to be its flat bearer without he forfeiting that that right as oh, oh, you know
31:25 That membership
31:27 What I'm saying that the parties and association we all came to join the party the party has its rules
31:45 If you the individual wants to abide by a different rules
31:49 That's that you said freedom of association you leave and join something else so that the party rules do not apply to you
31:56 I don't see how that's difficult, but
31:58 Okay, so this is my last attempt at this question and we'll move on to other things
32:03 So clearly we are on the same page here
32:05 And that's why I'm asking if it was even necessary at all to include that if the person wanted to be flat bearer or parliamentary
32:15 Candidate or flat bearer candidate on the ticket of another party the NPP will restrain them
32:20 in your own words, you can't be a patriot and stand as a
32:26 Presidential candidate or parliamentary candidate of another party. So why include that there?
32:31 Okay, that tells you the love that tells you the love the party has for its members
32:36 The party has a love for the members that they will restrain you from leaving
32:40 Because we don't want to lose the best brains. I could you poke with the best brain in the country in energy
32:45 I could you poke who is probably one of the youngest people who's very vibrant on your show
32:49 the party would not want to lose me because I'm a very
32:51 Wet to them so the party
32:55 The party will make an effort it doesn't like the part doesn't care
33:01 That point is to tell you that the party will make an effort to restrain you
33:06 But the end decision is with the individual but it tells you that the party is not forcing anybody out
33:12 It is making an effort to keep its members because it's not by
33:17 Easy to go out there. We are spending money to do outreach to bring more people into the party
33:22 So we cannot just be pushing people out nearly and willy
33:25 Okay, so that point is to say that the party will make all the effort to restrain you
33:31 But I'm not this issue with an individual. Well, I wonder how that is
33:35 When we just had from the director of elections and research
33:38 He said restraining could mean going to taking you to court or seeking legal redress on the matter
33:42 But he's he's he's joined on the line again. Thank you so much. Mr. Di Marco for reconnecting. So I was just asking mr
33:49 Kojo Poku about the bit on the party restraining a
33:53 parliamentary candidate or
33:56 presidential
33:57 aspirin who lost from
34:00 Contesting on the ticket of another party if somebody is contesting that on the ticket of another party
34:05 They won't still be a member of your party
34:08 So why do you include that to say that you restrain them if they make a decision to to do so?
34:14 Thank you, but I think both
34:18 Dr. Marching and
34:20 Mr. Kojo Poku has kicked the new rice on the head. It's a political party
34:26 And we also informed by other development in other jurisdictions if we take the case of Nigeria
34:33 Individuals easily
34:37 move from one party to the other in the midst of the conduct of election and
34:42 So the new paternity party is guided by some of these developments
34:47 But my sister when we get to that bridge the party will call we have strong confidence
34:53 In our presidential over that they would not be tempted having gone through this exercise
34:59 to either decide to
35:02 Form their own political party or be on the ticket of other political parties. They were not quite to
35:09 participate in this exercise in fact, then
35:12 Constant engagement with the party that they want to come on board and leave the party to win elections
35:21 24 and so that is the focus there have been lots of expression issues to be discussed in all this process
35:27 from the fear the party opened the nomination
35:31 conducted the very same
35:33 Submitted a post national council by a chief of national council and just yesterday
35:38 the conduct of the ballot and engagement with the
35:41 Tells you that the party is on the move to conduct a very fair
35:47 We can train primaries that will elect for us our presidential
35:52 Candidates that is the focus the issue of the undertaking is just remind our
35:58 members our
36:01 Candidates that they should be mindful of the party's position and ask for your focus is on telling you
36:08 If you have blue party person
36:10 You restrict yourself to comply with the dieting and and in other
36:16 Discussions you may even disagree by disagreement will not mean you walk away
36:21 If you want the interest of your party to survive at all time
36:26 You will set the rules of engagement put together by the part
36:30 so at this stage all that I want to put across that the party is
36:34 minded of certain development and if we identify we put in place
36:40 Mechanisms that will help the party address them
36:44 We appreciate the sense with these individuals have been conducting their campaigns and where the party apart issues the party
36:52 at heart issue
36:54 community secular remind party members of
36:57 the cardinal need to have our party
37:02 Cohesion wall put together and so that is the focus and I can assure you that at the end of this exercise
37:10 26th of August November for 2023 the new patriotic party will come out with the presidential
37:17 Candidate who leads the party to win elections 2024
37:21 Thank you for your time
37:23 Evans Lima quest director of research and elections of the MPP. Let me just wrap up with mr. Koto Poku and dr.
37:29 I'm much of watching. Let me start with you doc
37:31 the party is as we have been told on course to
37:37 selecting a flat bearer aspirant
37:40 We know that it's quite a large number in there and delegates will make their decision on the August
37:47 26 and then later in November
37:50 How do you think the the delegates must conduct themselves?
37:55 so what should they be looking out for in making a decision on who the flat bearer of the
38:00 NPP should be seen that they want to break the eight who is the best bet for the candidates?
38:05 in a minute, please
38:09 How
38:10 delegates conduct themselves
38:12 If you do what is done to produce
38:16 What political parties desire to get?
38:19 What kind of parties in reality speaking would like to be in government when they are in a position they are out of business
38:26 Delegates are certain to be rational to go in for the candidate. They believe and break the eight
38:32 Thank you for
38:37 Right, thank you for your time and let me just wrap up with you
38:40 Mr. Kojo Poku who is on the ballot?
38:44 What does the future look like for you? You've told us you'd be going to some other places, but but generally
38:49 What does the future look like for you?
38:52 Well, the future is brilliant. The future is beautiful. I
38:55 Can't ask for more than it is now. I mean, it's a new day. I'm on the ballot and I think
39:03 My pastor called me and said that look could you that number four that you have is the divine number because
39:10 For God loves for God so loved MPP
39:14 He has given his beloved son KMP to basically break the eight for the party
39:18 So I think look being at that number four means that we have good things happening in the country and in the party
39:26 It's interesting that we still have interesting interpretations to the ballots and numbers that we pick I've seen
39:32 Honorable a dining will have cr7. That's Ronaldo. It's interesting. I just I'm just waiting to see what the others will come up with
39:39 But thank you so much for your time
39:41 Maybe you've not been on social media, but everybody has it's a bit is a fun game. And these are the things that
39:46 rejuvenate the base of the party because everybody has their supporter and everybody's playing around with numbers and look it's fun games and
39:54 The message is important and some of us have the right message
39:57 And I think that at the end of the day everybody when they are going through the mini-tour
40:02 Because look anytime you are giving a ballot your eyes
40:05 Directly goes to the middle of the ballot and it goes to number four and I think that the most important right?
40:10 Thank you for your time. Enjoy the rest of your day
40:12 That's a could report who is number four on the MPP's ballot hoping to be if the party's presidential
40:19 Candidate this is the am sure up next we engage the chief executive of the youth employment agency
40:26 Benjamin a couple will be sitting with coffee a Japan
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