Storyline: Elise is a podcaster in need of catchy Christmas content. Elise agrees to be Daniyal's wing woman and guide. As the two scramble to build the best Christmas ever, it becomes clear that Daniyal might be trying to win over the wrong woman.
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00:00:00Remember, you have to flip the action and reaction.
00:00:10Beautiful!
00:00:11Keep it up!
00:00:14It's a dance.
00:00:17Communicate with your opponent through eye contact.
00:00:23Keep it up!
00:00:36Not bad for a podcast creator.
00:00:38Not bad at all.
00:00:40There you go.
00:00:41Okay.
00:00:42So, any last thoughts on sword choreography?
00:00:45Where it's led you, how it's shaped your life?
00:00:48Well, I suppose it's, like I said before, it's a dance, even with an opponent.
00:00:52Well, thank you, Jacqueline.
00:00:53I'm going to miss this.
00:00:54Are you going to put these training sessions in the podcast?
00:00:56No, no, no.
00:00:57That was just for fun.
00:00:58I keep myself out of the narrative.
00:01:00I believe that makes for messy storytelling.
00:01:04I like keeping my focus on my subjects.
00:01:06Merry Christmas, and thank you again.
00:01:09Merry Christmas.
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00:01:12Ooh.
00:01:13Are those the special Christmas flavor?
00:01:14Yep.
00:01:15Oh, and this bakery started making them yesterday.
00:01:16Wow.
00:01:17And I just finished up with Jacqueline Snyder.
00:01:18Nice.
00:01:19Well, have you decided what angle you want to take?
00:01:20I think I'm going with sword choreography as a metaphor for Christmas.
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00:01:39Sword Choreography as a Metaphor for Conflict in Communication.
00:01:41You're like a Michelangelo, with a slab of marble.
00:01:45Yeah.
00:01:46Exactly.
00:01:47Oh, by the way, Max and I are going to a Christmas pub crawl on Friday.
00:01:50You should come.
00:01:51Help wake up the Christmas spirit.
00:01:53You know I have plenty of Christmas spirit.
00:01:55I'm just going cozier these days.
00:01:58Tonight, I'm taking another stab at my mom's mold cider recipe.
00:02:03I know you miss your mom, especially this time of year, but I'm worried you're missing
00:02:08We live in New York. You should let the city help you celebrate.
00:02:12Yeah.
00:02:13Uh, by the way, Janice was looking for you. She wanted to set up a meeting.
00:02:17Yeah, I heard she was making rounds about how to optimize listenership.
00:02:22I'm worried life and the likes on the chopping block.
00:02:25She set up a meeting with me yesterday. It was fine.
00:02:28Of course it was. Live Life Winning is one of the most popular podcasts out there right now.
00:02:34Uh, Janice? Six o'clock.
00:02:40I think I'm going to work from home today.
00:02:42Yay!
00:02:46Hey, how's it going?
00:02:53Now, an ongoing misconception is that apps and our phones create distance between people.
00:02:59But the sous-vide app is the perfect example of the exact opposite.
00:03:04It's like a book club, but with recipes. Real-time cooking parties over long distances.
00:03:13Um, our market research indicates that this new generation of consumers is review-driven.
00:03:19For a Christmas theme, we thought it'd be a fun idea to incorporate cartoon characters like elves, reindeer, or even Santa Claus himself.
00:03:27If that's not too hackneyed.
00:03:30Hackneyed.
00:03:32Maybe. Um, or maybe something classic. Like Ugg boots? So many studies.
00:03:38All this market research. I guess I was just looking for something a little more...
00:03:44Alive.
00:03:46Raw.
00:03:47Live.
00:03:49Raw.
00:03:51Yeah.
00:03:52Yeah.
00:03:53We can do that.
00:03:55Either way, really looking forward to your pitch presentation on the 23rd.
00:04:00Thank you for coming in.
00:04:04Great. Yeah. I'm sorry, guys.
00:04:12Alive.
00:04:14Raw.
00:04:15You should probably just give this account to Nadia, don't you think? I mean, we all know Christmas content. It's not your forte, anyway.
00:04:22Beth Barker should know that the creative director is on it. We need to win this account for the agency. It'll keep us tapped in and relevant.
00:04:30And speaking of Christmas content, I'm feeling rather inspired. I'm gearing up to go see the Schultzes for the holidays.
00:04:38Tanya and I are actually meeting in a few hours to discuss travel plans.
00:04:41Tanya Schultz, your bestie from childhood.
00:04:44Maybe.
00:04:45On your drive to Vermont, you two can discuss why you're not a couple already.
00:04:50Maybe.
00:04:51You know, the latest Live Life Winning podcast made me think of you two.
00:04:54It talked about how people ignore good things that are right in front of them because they think that everything worthwhile must be a challenge.
00:05:01That's not a revolutionary philosophy, Brian. It's a cliche.
00:05:06Tanya is my friend. Her family is like my family.
00:05:10End of story. Get out of here. Go do some work.
00:05:16Think about it.
00:05:22Cheers.
00:05:29Okay.
00:05:30Yay!
00:05:31Okay.
00:05:32There you go.
00:05:34Cheers.
00:05:39Yum.
00:05:40It's good, but it's still off.
00:05:42Better than last time. I think the cardamom was a good addition.
00:05:46You know, if this meeting does happen with Janice.
00:05:49You're unable to hide from her until 2036.
00:05:52Do you think I should come up with pitches for new podcasts?
00:05:55No. I think you should stand by Life and the Like.
00:05:58She comes from a true crime background. I mean, she wants things to have a big hook, you know? To be sensational.
00:06:05Maybe I could do a series on a spy.
00:06:08Or a tightrope walker.
00:06:10What makes your podcast so much fun is that you find everyday people who do everyday things, but you end up wanting to keep hanging out with them.
00:06:18You're authentic. So be it.
00:06:20So no spy?
00:06:21Maybe not.
00:06:24Fine.
00:06:31They only had one raspberry left.
00:06:35But I thought I'd let you have it.
00:06:38To repay me, you can do the driving to your parents' house.
00:06:41About that. Okay, you know that huge pine tree outside my parents' kitchen window?
00:06:45Yeah, the Squirrel Hotel.
00:06:46It fell over onto the roof, and now they have to repair it, so they've decided that they won't be hosting Christmas this year.
00:06:52Are they sure? Maybe we can help them.
00:06:54They're pretty decided. In fact, they're coming here to spend Christmas in New York.
00:06:58I'm a bit worried it's going to be tight at my place, but the silver lining is, now they get to meet Cliff.
00:07:04Wait, um, Cliff? I thought you weren't that into him.
00:07:08I forgot to update you. Okay, we had this great weekend.
00:07:11He took me upstate to this festival, and we went ice skating, and something clicked into place.
00:07:17And it turns out, he's really a Christmas guy, so I think Mom and Dad are going to love him.
00:07:21I'm a Christmas guy.
00:07:22Of course. It's not a contest.
00:07:25Okay. Anyway, Cliff's out of town, but he'll be back on Christmas Eve.
00:07:29You know, of course you're welcome to join us, but I also know you may have your own traditions here, so...
00:07:34Oh. Do you not want me to join you guys?
00:07:36No, no, you can. You know, I just... I know it's not Vermont, so...
00:07:41No, that's okay. I mean, I wouldn't want to get in the way of Cliff.
00:07:44No, you... you wouldn't be.
00:07:51Oh, you just got it.
00:08:03I think I was wrong when I used the term cliché to describe your assessment of me and Tanya's relationship.
00:08:10You know how we always say there's a fine line between cliché and classic?
00:08:14Classic being universal. Undeniable.
00:08:18Maybe this is classic.
00:08:20Maybe you're right about me and Tanya.
00:08:22Finally.
00:08:23You know how we always talk about that aha moment?
00:08:26Last night, there was some raspberry jam on her chin, and it was just this...
00:08:31Aha.
00:08:32It was a moment.
00:08:33Can I just point out that you are talking about all this in advertising terms?
00:08:37Of course she has this new boyfriend named Cliff who's a real Christmas guy.
00:08:44What? I thought you wanted the two of us to get together.
00:08:47But now she's unavailable.
00:08:49You know, today, live life winning, they are doing call-ins for a special Christmas episode.
00:08:54You could call them. You know, get some neutral advice.
00:08:58Plus, you love a good focus group.
00:09:02I like that.
00:09:08Ginny, can I see you for a minute?
00:09:10We're going to need the numbers on every show we have in broadcast right now.
00:09:13Especially Life and the Like.
00:09:15Now, where is Elise anyway?
00:09:21Just like here.
00:09:29Hey.
00:09:30Hi.
00:09:32You're hiding from Janice, aren't you?
00:09:34Just a little.
00:09:35What are you recording?
00:09:36The big Christmas call-in.
00:09:38Though Charlotte Noel just cancelled, so I have to go at it all alone.
00:09:43Actually...
00:09:44No. No.
00:09:45This is perfect.
00:09:46You can co-host with me.
00:09:47No. No. No. No. That's not really my skill set.
00:09:49There you go.
00:09:50You look great.
00:09:52Okay.
00:09:54Are we recording now?
00:09:55Hello and happy holidays, everyone.
00:09:57Yes, we are.
00:09:58This is Bonnie Medley, host of Live Life Winning.
00:10:01And today is our epic Christmas special, where we answer any of your holiday questions.
00:10:06Whether it be hosting anxiety or what cookies Santa really loves.
00:10:10And joining me today is our special guest, Miss Yuletide.
00:10:15A brilliant expert on all things Christmas.
00:10:18So let's get started with our first caller here.
00:10:20We've got Chris Kringle.
00:10:23I'm guessing that's an alias.
00:10:25Talk to us.
00:10:26What is your Christmas conundrum?
00:10:29Hello.
00:10:31My conundrum is that...
00:10:34I think I may be in love with my longtime friend.
00:10:36But I'm not sure.
00:10:38But also, time is of the essence because she has just gotten a new boyfriend.
00:10:43That's a classic one.
00:10:45Classic.
00:10:46See, that's what I thought.
00:10:47I've known her since we were kids.
00:10:49Christmas was a big deal for her family.
00:10:51My family was always busy with work.
00:10:53And because we're Pakistani, we didn't really celebrate it.
00:10:57So they always adopted me for the holiday.
00:10:59I was actually supposed to spend Christmas in Vermont with them.
00:11:03But plans changed and now they're coming to New York instead.
00:11:06And...
00:11:08I don't know if I'm even invited.
00:11:11She says this guy is a real Christmas guy.
00:11:14And I thought maybe I could be a better Christmas guy.
00:11:18What I need is a strategy to win her heart.
00:11:22And her family's.
00:11:23And secure my spot.
00:11:25Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:11:27I'm gonna let my co-host, Miss Yuletide, take this one.
00:11:30Why don't you go ahead?
00:11:35So, you want to secure your spot.
00:11:39Sounds like you're going out of business, crush.
00:11:41You have known her for a long time.
00:11:43She now has a boyfriend and suddenly you're interested.
00:11:46I recommend you leave her be.
00:11:48You'll get over it.
00:11:49Hmm.
00:11:53You talk about being a better Christmas guy.
00:11:56Is Christmas spirit something you could really compete at?
00:11:59Why not?
00:12:00Christmas is a commodity often used by companies to sell you something.
00:12:04Why can't I use it to win over the potential love of my life?
00:12:09Because the spirit in Christmas spirit harkens the ephemeral.
00:12:15The magical, not the strategic.
00:12:17That's cute and all, but I have less than a week.
00:12:20I need an airtight playbook.
00:12:22Oh, yeah, if you're looking for a book.
00:12:24Cute?
00:12:25No need to condescend, Kris Kringle.
00:12:27Oh, there's plenty of need, Miss Yuletide.
00:12:29Didn't this start with you not even knowing if you love this woman?
00:12:32Yet you're more concerned about winning than sorting out your feelings.
00:12:37Isn't this podcast called Live Life Winning?
00:12:41Well, yeah, but I...
00:12:43And don't they say, he who hesitates...
00:12:47He who hesitates what?
00:12:49I don't remember the rest.
00:12:51Well, I know how the rest of this call goes.
00:12:53Bye.
00:13:02That was crazy.
00:13:04I know.
00:13:05I'm sorry.
00:13:06No.
00:13:07I knew you had it in you.
00:13:09No.
00:13:12Life and the like.
00:13:15Life and the like.
00:13:17Life and the li...
00:13:19I don't know.
00:13:20It trips you up.
00:13:22There's too many L's.
00:13:23Why so many L's?
00:13:25I think there's only two.
00:13:27Okay.
00:13:28I will admit that long-form, thoughtful podcast storytelling is not my specialty.
00:13:34I like to think of things like, what makes the listener have a heated debate with their friends over dinner?
00:13:38What propels the listener from one episode to the next?
00:13:41Getting to know someone?
00:13:43Learning about their life philosophy?
00:13:46Taking away a little inspiration?
00:13:48Yeah, I'm gonna need you to pivot.
00:13:50I'm gonna let you hold on to life and the like, but I want you to think of things like cliffhangers.
00:13:54Something juicy.
00:13:56Like an episode of The Housewives.
00:13:58I like to look to reality TV for inspiration.
00:14:00Oh!
00:14:01I want you to unearth that sassiness I heard in that Kris Kringle call the other day.
00:14:05The sassiness that got social media talking.
00:14:08I don't even know why everyone's all a flutter.
00:14:11You have this typical situation where an indecisive man wants something because suddenly he can't have it.
00:14:17He talks about using Christmas as a strategy to help him win.
00:14:20Like it's some sort of game.
00:14:22Christmas is supposed to be the season of love.
00:14:26Not the season of winning.
00:14:28There it is.
00:14:30The season of winning.
00:14:33If he wants to get the girl, let him try.
00:14:36In fact, maybe you even instruct him.
00:14:39Wait, wait. I'm sorry. I was just venting. This wasn't supposed to be a pitch.
00:14:43Oh, it'll be like a holiday special.
00:14:45On the surface, you can teach him to be a better Christmas guy or whatever.
00:14:49But really, it's all a tool to win this woman's love.
00:14:52The deadline? Boyfriend's arrival.
00:14:54That's it.
00:14:56Christmas is love.
00:14:59Or maybe it's heartbreak.
00:15:01Find out the next episode.
00:15:03You can fast track, edit as you go. We'll release the whole series on Christmas Eve.
00:15:07Oh! I love a good brainstorming session.
00:15:10Wouldn't this be dishonest?
00:15:12No. It will be a reveal.
00:15:15Okay, and what will motivate this family to go along with this?
00:15:19On the surface, as far as everyone else is concerned,
00:15:23he'll be their guide for the ultimate Christmas in New York.
00:15:26Also, Perks will set him up in some swoon-worthy luxury rental.
00:15:33Okay. That's it.
00:15:36Off you go.
00:15:37Okay. Yeah. Sure. Okay.
00:15:39Send in Patrick.
00:15:41No. Christine.
00:15:42Did I fire Christine?
00:15:44Never mind. Just send somebody in.
00:15:46Okay. Christmas in the park. Christmas in the mall.
00:15:50Found it. He's a higher-up at this ad agency here in the city.
00:15:54Of course. Commodity, etc.
00:15:57So are you going to move forward with it?
00:15:59I have to if I want here and now to keep producing my work.
00:16:02Either way, the first obstacle is getting him to agree to this in the first place.
00:16:07You know what you could do?
00:16:08I dare you to go into his office and yell,
00:16:12Kris Kringle? Is there a Kris Kringle here?
00:16:16I just might.
00:16:17Oh. You seem serious.
00:16:23Hey, Dad.
00:16:24It's me.
00:16:25How's it going over there?
00:16:27Have you guys got the neighbor kid to put up the Christmas tree yet?
00:16:31Are you guys actually going to do anything to celebrate this year?
00:16:37Anyways, I'm here.
00:16:42Give my love to Mom.
00:16:57He's lost.
00:16:58Oh. My father?
00:17:00No. He who hesitates is lost. That's how the saying goes.
00:17:04Oh. It's you.
00:17:06It's me. Miss Yuletide. But my actual name is Elise.
00:17:10Danielle Khan.
00:17:12Wow. That's your name on the door.
00:17:14My father's.
00:17:15I wanted to apologize. I was abrupt. I'm sorry.
00:17:19So you came here to apologize?
00:17:22Also, I think I realized there might be something to your mission.
00:17:27And what better combined with a love story than Christmas?
00:17:30So you came here to encourage me?
00:17:33No. I, uh... May I?
00:17:42To make it up to you, I want to help you by featuring your journey on my podcast, Life in the Lake.
00:17:49I surmise from our Kurt conversation that organizing Christmas festivities doesn't come naturally to you.
00:17:57That being the better Christmas guy would be a mission. A feat.
00:18:03Possibly.
00:18:04Well, it comes naturally to me.
00:18:07Especially Christmas in this great city we live in.
00:18:11You asked about a playbook.
00:18:13Well, your playbook, with my behind-the-scenes help, is to show your friend and her family the best possible Christmas in New York.
00:18:22Becoming the better Christmas guy.
00:18:24But the real mission is to make this woman...
00:18:29Tanya.
00:18:30Tanya realize what's already in front of her. Real lasting love.
00:18:34Before this boyfriend even gets a chance.
00:18:37You just have to record the whole thing.
00:18:39Yeah.
00:18:40Right.
00:18:41But doesn't that make your love story even better? Something worth sharing with the world?
00:18:47Oh! Also, my podcast production company can offer Tanya's family a stunning holiday rental.
00:18:54I can send you the link. It's within walking distance to some of New York's best Christmassy things.
00:19:00As tempting as it all sounds, I feel like I'd be luring people I care about into a ruse.
00:19:08And for that reason, I'm going to have to say no.
00:19:11That's disappointing, but understandable.
00:19:16Well, thank you for your time.
00:19:20One more thing.
00:19:22You said you were worried about not being included in the festivities.
00:19:26Well, this podcast would mean spending a lot of time with Tanya and her family when necessitated.
00:19:35I'm sorry again for the other day.
00:19:39Hey, can you airdrop me the link to that luxury rental? Just out of curiosity.
00:19:45Sure.
00:19:54Here, give me those.
00:19:56Thank you for your chivalry.
00:19:59What do we always say? Chivalry is dead. Chivalry is chivalry.
00:20:04Maybe it's not. Maybe it's not dead.
00:20:08Okay, why are you being weird? You got a pitch presentation coming up?
00:20:11Actually, yes.
00:20:13I'm so worried that the guest bed is going to hurt my dad's back.
00:20:17You know, I got the weirdest offer today.
00:20:20Talk to me.
00:20:22Have you heard of that podcast, Life in the Lake?
00:20:24Yeah, I've heard of it, but I don't really listen to podcasts.
00:20:27Well, the host is a friend of a friend, and she and I got into a heated debate about the Christmas spirit.
00:20:34She and I? Heated?
00:20:36No, not... No.
00:20:38Okay.
00:20:39What I'm saying is, she heard about my holiday plans and approached me about doing a podcast where I'm assigned the challenge of showing you and your family the best New York Christmas ever.
00:20:53I said no, of course.
00:20:55What? Why?
00:20:57All that recording, this annoying woman just following us around, wiring us up with mics, pulling us aside for little interviews.
00:21:04Yeah, I guess, but I don't know. I mean, it sounds kind of neat, right?
00:21:08I know both mom and dad wouldn't mind talking about their love of Christmas.
00:21:11Especially now, right? Since they can't do their usual extravaganza.
00:21:15Well, she did offer us this really nice luxury rental.
00:21:21It seems too good to be true.
00:21:23Let me see that.
00:21:28We're doing this!
00:21:30Can I have my phone back?
00:21:31No!
00:21:33Mistakes.
00:21:35What I learned from Jacqueline is that the trick to sword fighting is trust.
00:21:41A balance of committing to moves, while keeping the other person safe.
00:21:51Hello?
00:21:52Hi, Elise. It's Daniel.
00:21:54Who?
00:21:55Kris Kringle.
00:21:56Oh, hi. How can I help you?
00:21:58I want to do it. I want to do the podcast.
00:22:01Oh, really? Great. What made you change your mind?
00:22:06Maybe I do have a thing or two to learn about Christmas. Also, the luxury rental was a huge draw for Tanya.
00:22:12Great. I'm excited.
00:22:14Me too.
00:22:15Okay. Bye.
00:22:16Bye.
00:22:18Well, alright then.
00:22:26Oh, Broadway show. That's a good one.
00:22:31Ah, yes. What else, what else, what else?
00:22:34Now, you have to be an expert on New Year Christmas. As much as you've been trying to avoid it.
00:22:41I'm just going to read up on it like I do everything else.
00:22:44Fake it till you make it.
00:22:45Fake it till you make it.
00:22:46I'm not good at faking it.
00:22:48I'll take any advice you have.
00:22:50What makes Christmas in New York so amazing?
00:22:53It's like I've been telling you. Just step outside.
00:22:56No, I need something more solid, more activity driven. I need a strategy.
00:23:01Strategy? That's not your usual, uh, strategy.
00:23:07I need a place to start.
00:23:09Hey, you got this. Keep going. As I build this.
00:23:14Okay.
00:23:15Apparatus.
00:23:19Well, there you have it, dear listeners. Despite being mostly a homebody,
00:23:24it was now up to me to become an expert on all things Christmas in New York.
00:23:29So with the help of some trusty guidebooks, I started drawing up a playbook
00:23:33in the hopes of helping Kris Kringle get the girl.
00:23:38So, the thing about Christmas in New York is that it's almost impossible
00:23:44not to find a Christmas that speaks to your heart. Feels like home.
00:23:49Speaking of home, what do you think?
00:23:52Wow, you really outdid yourself on the decoration.
00:23:56But I'm not really hearing a strategy.
00:23:58Oh, no need. If we focus on the Christmas experience,
00:24:03the intended result of winning Tanya's heart will come naturally.
00:24:07So just relax and let the Christmas spirit wash over you.
00:24:11Still doesn't seem like a plan.
00:24:13Patience, Kris Kringle.
00:24:15Now, our first task is to prepare for the family's arrival in one hour.
00:24:21And I am going to start recording now.
00:24:25Hello, world.
00:24:27Oh, I picked these up. I thought they may be of some guidance.
00:24:32No, no, no, we don't need those.
00:24:34You're going to have to trust me.
00:24:36Danielle, we have to make our moves from the heart, from the gut.
00:24:40Not from a guide.
00:24:43You know, I think the best thing to make them feel the most at home
00:24:48is making sure they have personalized stockings.
00:24:51Why are we making five stockings?
00:24:54Well, Tanya, her parents, you and Cliff.
00:24:57Why does Cliff get a stocking?
00:24:59He's invited.
00:25:01Oh.
00:25:07Oops.
00:25:09You're a child.
00:25:14Hey, so I thought it'd be really fun if the drink of the night could be Manhattan's
00:25:19with a Christmas twist.
00:25:21So the way we infuse these New York drinks with Christmas spirit
00:25:26is by adding a little bit of nutmeg-flavored simple syrup.
00:25:31It was my mom's recipe.
00:25:33Which will be posted on the Life in the Life blog.
00:25:37So, let me get this straight.
00:25:40The way we're constructing this fabulous New York Christmas
00:25:44is by making a drink called a Manhattan?
00:25:47So far, this feels vague and aimless.
00:25:51So far as in the first hour and a half of our process?
00:25:55Doesn't look like patience is one of your virtues.
00:25:58I just avoid procrastination.
00:26:00Okay, look at it this way.
00:26:02Sure, we could go straight to Rockefeller Center for ice skating.
00:26:05See, now that sounds perfect.
00:26:07But why do the first thing you think of?
00:26:09It's so impersonal.
00:26:11Now, regardless, we're on the same team.
00:26:13So let's work together.
00:26:15We have, what, 15 minutes before the family arrives?
00:26:18Do you want to spend all this time arguing?
00:26:20No.
00:26:21Right.
00:26:22So, shake.
00:26:29Are you done?
00:26:30Still?
00:26:34I'm very excited about this.
00:26:36Let's go.
00:26:38Oh my god.
00:26:39Dad, look at this.
00:26:41Wow.
00:26:42This place is amazing.
00:26:45It's so beautiful.
00:26:47As Tanya's family arrives,
00:26:49I've instructed Danielle to ever so stealthily
00:26:53try to tease out if there was one Christmassy thing
00:26:56that always makes them think of New York City.
00:26:59Maybe something they've always dreamt of doing.
00:27:01That may seem like cheating,
00:27:04but it's just a way to make the journey more personal.
00:27:08Let me take your jacket.
00:27:10Why?
00:27:11Because we're inside.
00:27:12Okay.
00:27:13I watch as Danielle takes Tanya's coat.
00:27:17Yeah, but she seems more confused than appreciative.
00:27:21My arm's stuck.
00:27:22Oh, her arm's stuck.
00:27:25It's not charming.
00:27:27It's more of an awkward struggle.
00:27:29All right.
00:27:30High five.
00:27:31What?
00:27:43Hi, Patty.
00:27:44Hi.
00:27:45We're just speaking, right?
00:27:46Yeah, just speak as you normally would.
00:27:48Oh.
00:27:49So, how are you feeling about being here?
00:27:52Well, I'll certainly miss not spending Christmas
00:27:55at my home in Vermont.
00:27:57But why not take the opportunity
00:27:59and make an adventure out of it, right?
00:28:01And this podcast.
00:28:04We're just thrilled to be doing it.
00:28:06Patty works so hard to make everyone's Christmas special.
00:28:10I'm happy that this can be a break for her.
00:28:13She can just relax and enjoy the holiday
00:28:15without having to coordinate everything.
00:28:18And I'm looking forward to capturing the festivities
00:28:21with my new hobby.
00:28:22Actually, Patty calls it a hobby.
00:28:25I call it my new artistic pursuit.
00:28:28That's it.
00:28:29Smile.
00:28:30Hold it.
00:28:33Having to live up to my parents' level
00:28:35of Christmas celebration here in New York
00:28:37was intimidating.
00:28:39But now Danielle is doing the podcast
00:28:41and being our Christmas guide,
00:28:43he's a great friend.
00:28:45And I understand there's someone else in the picture?
00:28:48Cliff, yeah.
00:28:49You know, usually it takes a long time
00:28:51for me to want to introduce someone to my parents.
00:28:53But when I saw the stocking over there
00:28:56with his name on it,
00:28:57I can't explain it.
00:28:58It was something.
00:28:59It just felt right.
00:29:00Fit.
00:29:05I think it's going great.
00:29:07They like your stockings,
00:29:08and I'll admit it,
00:29:09those weird little nutmeg men.
00:29:12What?
00:29:13Do you disagree?
00:29:15No.
00:29:16I just wonder if maybe there's a different angle.
00:29:19Like?
00:29:21I don't know.
00:29:22What if it's less get the girl
00:29:24and more she loves me, she loves me not?
00:29:27Less of a competition and more of a rumination.
00:29:30You don't think I stand a chance, do you?
00:29:33No, I just don't want to record
00:29:35hours upon hours of your heart getting rejected.
00:29:38There's not much of an arc there.
00:29:40Not much of an arc?
00:29:42You lack competitive spirit.
00:29:44Did I just hear someone say
00:29:46chestnuts roasting on an open fire?
00:29:48I've got a great idea.
00:29:50Oh, let's hear it.
00:29:54You guys excited?
00:29:55Absolutely.
00:29:56This chestnut guy is the best-kept secret
00:29:58in all of New York City.
00:30:00He's always moving around from location to location,
00:30:02which is what makes him so special.
00:30:05Or should I say Christmas magical.
00:30:08Let's go get some.
00:30:12Oh, these smell so good.
00:30:14What do you think?
00:30:16Wow.
00:30:17This is really extraordinary.
00:30:19I had no idea you had this in your repertoire.
00:30:24You're welcome.
00:30:26I was skeptical at first,
00:30:28but Tanya did give him a look.
00:30:30How can I describe it?
00:30:32It's like a romantic reassessment.
00:30:35No, a double-take spanning decades.
00:30:39Could there be a twinge of hope for Daniel after all?
00:30:44Ugh, no.
00:30:46Please.
00:30:47They have no idea what you're doing.
00:30:49And he can probably tell.
00:30:51What's next?
00:30:54What's next, you might ask?
00:30:56A New York Christmas classic, of course.
00:30:59One that's beautiful and fun,
00:31:02at once extravagant and free of charge.
00:31:06Strolling down 5th Avenue
00:31:08and taking in the stunning window displays.
00:31:12In fact, you wouldn't have a proper New York Christmas
00:31:14without this requisite tradition.
00:31:18Oh, sorry.
00:31:23Hi.
00:31:24Peppermint hot chocolate.
00:31:26There's a shop right over there that makes the best.
00:31:28Is this your spectacular New York activity?
00:31:31What do you call these?
00:31:32New York hot chocolate?
00:31:34No, New York hot chocolate.
00:31:36New York hot chocolate.
00:31:38New York hot chocolate.
00:31:40New York hot chocolate.
00:31:42New York hot chocolate.
00:31:44New York hot chocolate.
00:31:46What do you call these?
00:31:47New York hot chocolate?
00:31:48Your spectacular New York activity
00:31:50seems to be sarcasm.
00:31:52No, this is a treat
00:31:53that goes along with our next activity.
00:31:56Chestnuts on an open fire was amazing.
00:31:58You saw the way she looked at me.
00:32:00Yes, I did.
00:32:02Which is why I'm trying to roll with that momentum.
00:32:04You recording?
00:32:05I'm always recording.
00:32:07Some of the best material comes from the
00:32:09in-between unexpected moments.
00:32:12Besides, remember, this is
00:32:13half guide to New York Christmas,
00:32:15half your journey.
00:32:17I don't think my journey is that interesting.
00:32:19Everyone's journey is interesting.
00:32:22Okay, uh, follow me.
00:32:25I'm really excited about this one.
00:32:29Okay, so this is one of the best things
00:32:32about Christmas in New York.
00:32:34The stunning window displays.
00:32:36I thought we could do a dry run
00:32:37and then come back with Tanya and her family
00:32:39after dark when there's more atmosphere.
00:32:41Sounds great.
00:32:42Really?
00:32:43Yeah, I want to give credit where credit's due.
00:32:45Okay.
00:32:47This display is impressive,
00:32:49but what do you think's going on here?
00:32:52He's going to a Christmas party?
00:32:55Yes, a deer version of an ugly sweater party.
00:32:58Or maybe the deer is masquerading as a reindeer
00:33:04because he's a spy.
00:33:07Has Worker Health and Safety
00:33:09checked out these conditions?
00:33:11I am concerned they're not wearing gloves.
00:33:21Well, this one's simple.
00:33:23That's you and Tanya on Christmas Eve.
00:33:27Your long-standing love realized
00:33:29and you're mid-dance.
00:33:33Here you are.
00:33:34Thanks, Elise.
00:33:35Okay.
00:33:36This is a big part of New York Christmas,
00:33:39taking in the magnificent window displays
00:33:41down Fifth Avenue.
00:33:43Our first stop,
00:33:44this whimsical winter wonderland.
00:33:47Oh, Daniel, it's so magical.
00:33:50It's so beautiful.
00:33:51It's so magical.
00:33:52It's so magical.
00:33:53It's so magical.
00:33:54It's so magical.
00:33:55It's so magical.
00:33:56It's so magical.
00:33:57It's so magical.
00:33:58It's so magical.
00:33:59It's so magical.
00:34:00It's so magical.
00:34:01It's so magical.
00:34:04Agreed.
00:34:05It's just wonderful.
00:34:07Thanks.
00:34:12So, what do you think?
00:34:15Such a classic New York activity.
00:34:18It's one of those things I always mean to do,
00:34:20but never do.
00:34:22You know?
00:34:23I do.
00:34:25I realize there are more and more things
00:34:27like that in my life.
00:34:29Like Grossman?
00:34:30Or reading through that pile of New Yorkers?
00:34:32No, I...
00:34:35What do you think's going on in there?
00:34:38Um...
00:34:40They're trying to get us to buy a $400 sweater?
00:34:43Oh, sorry.
00:34:45Cliff and I are in a debate
00:34:46on whether he should fly into JFK or LaGuardia.
00:34:49Okay.
00:34:50What were you saying?
00:34:51What's happening in there?
00:34:52Like, why is that elf climbing that ladder?
00:34:55They're not even wearing gloves.
00:34:56Aren't they afraid of getting frostbite?
00:34:58What's with that?
00:35:00Yeah, I...
00:35:01Well, I'm not sure.
00:35:02I mean, is it supposed to make sense?
00:35:04You're the one in advertising.
00:35:16Dear listeners,
00:35:17sometimes all you have to do
00:35:19is step outside
00:35:20and let the city help you celebrate.
00:35:24But back to our number one topic,
00:35:29the romance.
00:35:31Danielle seems to have had a little setback
00:35:33as far as interest from Tanya.
00:35:37But he is determined to keep trying.
00:35:40Which is good, right?
00:35:41You don't just give up.
00:35:44Though I...
00:35:45I still can't help but feel that maybe...
00:35:49maybe they're not right for one another.
00:35:55Note to self,
00:35:57if this is the case
00:35:59and it all ends in defeat,
00:36:03is that our story
00:36:05seems kind of somber?
00:36:08Maybe...
00:36:10maybe flip-flop love story
00:36:13with Christmas
00:36:15B story to A story.
00:36:17B story to A story.
00:36:39Almost.
00:36:47I am feeling inspired.
00:36:50What if we do an elaborate window display
00:36:52in our front window next year?
00:36:53I can get some mannequins.
00:36:54Mom, do you really want the whole town
00:36:56standing in front of our window?
00:36:57I do.
00:37:03The thing about sous vide
00:37:06is that you're not actually alone
00:37:08when you're cooking.
00:37:09It's interactive, okay?
00:37:11But should we avoid anything romance-related
00:37:14like we normally do for these holiday campaigns?
00:37:16Since it narrows the field of receptive viewers?
00:37:19I think a single viewer might see the ad
00:37:21as hopeful, full of possibility.
00:37:23Maybe we should just do away
00:37:25with the whole idea of reviewing altogether.
00:37:27Think of this.
00:37:28A split screen.
00:37:29Two people.
00:37:31Two different kitchens.
00:37:32But they're looking at each other.
00:37:34Affectionately.
00:37:40What do you think of the excerpts I sent?
00:37:42Uh...
00:37:44The family.
00:37:45The Schultzes.
00:37:46Is it?
00:37:47They're so nice.
00:37:49Aren't they?
00:37:51Hanging out with them is like
00:37:53dipping a cookie into a warm glass of milk.
00:37:56That's a great way to put it.
00:37:58Cookies?
00:37:59Yeah.
00:38:00Then there's just mush.
00:38:02Oh.
00:38:03Where's the danger?
00:38:04You need the family to argue.
00:38:06Get in each other's way.
00:38:07Maybe one of them disapproves of Danielle
00:38:10and tries to sabotage the whole thing.
00:38:12I'm sorry.
00:38:13Um...
00:38:14Wasn't this supposed to be a journey
00:38:15where I guide him?
00:38:17Help him win Christmas?
00:38:19And the girl?
00:38:20I'm gonna roll that back.
00:38:21Things are way too easy for Danielle right now.
00:38:24We need more drama.
00:38:26Things going wrong.
00:38:27We are really not doing justice
00:38:29to this whole love triangle thing.
00:38:31I mean, this Cliff guy.
00:38:32He's not even around.
00:38:34It's just like a line.
00:38:35Flat.
00:38:36Line.
00:38:39Ooh.
00:38:40Ooh.
00:38:41Ooh.
00:38:42Ooh.
00:38:43Pew.
00:38:48Yep.
00:38:49Bored.
00:38:53I'm gonna go.
00:39:02Hey, Dad.
00:39:04Just trying to catch you in between meetings.
00:39:06I wanted to give you an update on the sous vide pitch.
00:39:09It's going great.
00:39:11I've actually managed to effectively convey
00:39:13the Christmas spirit.
00:39:17It's exciting, actually.
00:39:19Anyways, Fred and Patty Schultz say hi.
00:39:22Okay, bye.
00:39:24Hey.
00:39:25Hi.
00:39:26I wanted to pitch a bold new tactic to you.
00:39:29Sure.
00:39:30I mean, we're a team.
00:39:31Your input is welcome.
00:39:33Okay, so I'm thinking,
00:39:35why not just be direct?
00:39:37Tell her how I feel.
00:39:38Why all the spectacle?
00:39:40Just fast track it.
00:39:41Well, because...
00:39:44What's romantic about fast tracking?
00:39:46Where would the great story be?
00:39:49As of now, it'd be one and a half episodes worth.
00:39:52One and a half episodes worth?
00:39:54May I remind you that we are talking about
00:39:56my actual life here.
00:39:59It's worth mentioning that for our upcoming strategy,
00:40:02I was actually inspired by your point of view.
00:40:05I know you're trying to appeal to my ego,
00:40:08but go on.
00:40:10By showing Tanya and her family
00:40:12all New York has to offer,
00:40:14what are we missing?
00:40:16Home.
00:40:18So how do we bring home to New York?
00:40:20Do you have any favorite activities you miss?
00:40:23Yes.
00:40:24Snowshoeing.
00:40:25Snowshoeing.
00:40:26Great.
00:40:28In New York?
00:40:29Doesn't New York have everything?
00:40:32I didn't want to say anything,
00:40:34but I was really going to miss snowshoeing this year.
00:40:37Who would have known?
00:40:39Snowshoeing in New York.
00:40:41Well, they do say that New York has everything.
00:40:45Including my chocolate.
00:40:47Wait up.
00:40:49Wait for me.
00:40:50Come on, Danielle.
00:40:51Oh, I...
00:40:53Oh, you're recording.
00:40:55Yeah, I don't mean to be sneaky.
00:40:57It's just...
00:40:58You never know what you're going to miss.
00:41:00It's for those in-between unexpected moments, right?
00:41:04You always have to be prepared.
00:41:06That's exactly my philosophy.
00:41:09I have to admit that I listened to a couple of your podcasts.
00:41:12Oh.
00:41:13You are so wonderful, Elise.
00:41:15You're so reflective and warm.
00:41:19You really pulled me in.
00:41:22That means a lot.
00:41:23The snowball fight, it's on!
00:41:25Don't you do it.
00:41:26What?
00:41:27Oh!
00:41:28That's their thing.
00:41:29You're so competitive.
00:41:31Yeah, I definitely noticed Danielle's competitive.
00:41:36I wanted to ask you, how did you meet Danielle?
00:41:40Oh, I, um...
00:41:42I met him through this podcast thing a little bit ago.
00:41:47And then I approached him for this project.
00:41:49I would have thought you've known each other for a much longer time.
00:41:52No, no.
00:41:53But that feeling is great for the podcast.
00:41:58Hey, dear!
00:41:59I have some chocolate for you.
00:42:00Hi.
00:42:01Hey.
00:42:02Tell mom to come over.
00:42:04I'm going to go check on your dad.
00:42:05Okay.
00:42:06Okay, see you later.
00:42:10I just wanted to thank you for everything.
00:42:12I mean, my parents are having such a wonderful time.
00:42:15And that luxury apartment that you got us is unbelievable.
00:42:18It's been fun for me too, so...
00:42:20Oh, good.
00:42:21Good.
00:42:22Listen, um...
00:42:24Can I pick your brain?
00:42:26For a minute, just woman to woman.
00:42:28Sure.
00:42:29As you know, my boyfriend Cliff is coming back on Christmas Eve.
00:42:32And I'm really excited to see him.
00:42:34I just...
00:42:35I'm a little conflicted too.
00:42:37These past few days, I've been having a strange...
00:42:40Twinge of feelings for Danielle.
00:42:42We've known each other 30 years.
00:42:44Why now, out of the blue?
00:42:46I mean, it's understandable.
00:42:49Danielle's a great guy.
00:42:51Despite always having to be right.
00:42:54No, but if I'm being honest,
00:42:56today you two look like you were in a rom-com.
00:42:59Right?
00:43:00That's exactly what I'm saying.
00:43:02Is it possible that I've overlooked true love for all this time?
00:43:06Isn't this like a classic love story?
00:43:08You know, but then I think of Cliff and I...
00:43:11I get that rollercoaster feeling in my stomach, you know?
00:43:14And he's only been gone a few days and I already miss him.
00:43:18Geez, that sounds like a real love triangle.
00:43:21What do I do?
00:43:23Um...
00:43:24Well, it must be hard for you to judge
00:43:26having one of these men here and not the other.
00:43:29And, you know, all this warm holiday celebration
00:43:33kind of makes it uneven.
00:43:35Right.
00:43:36How about seeing if Cliff can come back early?
00:43:39I mean, it's a shame he should miss all of this.
00:43:42Right?
00:43:43Yeah.
00:43:44Yeah, it's worth a try.
00:43:46Okay.
00:43:47Oh, this is off the record, right?
00:43:49Of course.
00:43:50I don't even have my recording equipment set up.
00:43:52I...
00:43:53Um...
00:43:54And even if I did, I...
00:43:57I wouldn't put anything on the podcast you asked me not to.
00:44:01Thank you, Elise.
00:44:02Seriously, thank you.
00:44:04Of course.
00:44:05Girls, here's your hot chocolate.
00:44:08Wait up!
00:44:09I'm coming!
00:44:10Oh, here I come.
00:44:11Let's get these snowshoes off and go shopping.
00:44:13Okay, folks.
00:44:14See you later tonight.
00:44:23I still think this is madness.
00:44:25You think ice cream is exclusively a summer thing.
00:44:27I disagree.
00:44:29Can't we just go and eat it inside where it's warm?
00:44:31That would defeat the purpose.
00:44:33At 22 degrees outside, it's colder than the ice cream.
00:44:36We don't have to worry about it melting all over our hands.
00:44:39We can take our time and enjoy it.
00:44:41No panic.
00:44:42Okay.
00:44:45Mmm.
00:44:46Mmm, this is good.
00:44:48I like the point.
00:44:51Today went well, don't you think?
00:44:52Yeah.
00:44:53Although I feel like we're losing momentum.
00:44:55We should really be doing something right now to get you and Tanya together.
00:44:59I also feel like we should be ratcheting up tension.
00:45:02You know?
00:45:03Like, if Cliff were here, we'd do something like an arm wrestling contest.
00:45:07Arm wrestling contest?
00:45:08That doesn't sound like your style.
00:45:10I think we're thinking about this too hard.
00:45:11We should take a break.
00:45:12But that doesn't sound like your style.
00:45:14Sometimes it helps to not focus on the end result so hard.
00:45:17Distance equals perspective.
00:45:19Let your mind drift.
00:45:21What is that, from some kind of self-care blog?
00:45:24No.
00:45:25I actually came up with it for a cruise campaign.
00:45:28It still applies, though.
00:45:29You don't seem very eager.
00:45:32Are you having second thoughts?
00:45:33No.
00:45:34It's just sometimes clearing your mind leaves room for a solution.
00:45:40Ibuprofen ad.
00:45:44Oh, you got some.
00:45:45Oh, no.
00:45:48See?
00:45:49That's user error.
00:45:50Don't blame the temperature.
00:45:58So, how'd you get into advertising?
00:46:01My parents are in advertising.
00:46:03They're the Khan and Khan and Clark.
00:46:06Right.
00:46:07Do you want to know a secret?
00:46:08Sure.
00:46:09There's no Clark.
00:46:11What?
00:46:12It's just a name they added to sound more formidable.
00:46:16Okay.
00:46:17They actually got the firm a sous vide pitch.
00:46:20It's in three days.
00:46:21Wait, is that the cooking app?
00:46:22Mm-hmm.
00:46:23Wow, impressive.
00:46:25Good luck.
00:46:27My parents are running the London office and I'm in New York trying to keep the company revived and relevant.
00:46:37They're a little stuck in their ways.
00:46:39Is that why you never spend Christmas together?
00:46:42I mean, with all the year-end work, it's practical.
00:46:45It's a given.
00:46:47I guess in my family, our tradition is not spending Christmas together.
00:46:55And you're okay with that?
00:46:56I mean, since you have the Schultzes.
00:47:02Not really.
00:47:05But I don't know how I would turn that around.
00:47:09Aren't you the one who works in the field about making people want things they didn't even know they wanted?
00:47:19I have a pitch for you.
00:47:20How about you just invite them?
00:47:26After all, you're developing all these New York Christmas skills.
00:47:29Well, what about you?
00:47:30What are you doing after the podcast is done?
00:47:32Are you heading home for the holidays?
00:47:34Wait, let me guess.
00:47:35California.
00:47:36No.
00:47:38Arizona?
00:47:40Can we just put a pin in that just for them?
00:47:43Okay.
00:47:47How about this?
00:47:49You show me your favorite New York Christmas tradition.
00:47:54It doesn't have to be in a guidebook or even part of the podcast.
00:47:58Just yours.
00:48:02All right.
00:48:03Let's go.
00:48:04Okay.
00:48:06I hope you're still there.
00:48:08Lola!
00:48:10Am I too late?
00:48:11Oh, we sold out.
00:48:13But I set a box aside for you.
00:48:16And was actually going to drop it by.
00:48:18Thank you so much, Lola.
00:48:20I've been busy with a work project.
00:48:22Actually, Lola, this is Danielle, my current podcast subject.
00:48:27We're doing a podcast on love and Christmas.
00:48:30That seems worthwhile.
00:48:31Nice to meet you, Danielle.
00:48:33Nice to meet you, too.
00:48:34It's nice to meet you, too.
00:48:36I've been coming here for these Christmas cookies for a long time.
00:48:42Let me guess.
00:48:43She did a podcast about you.
00:48:44Oh, no.
00:48:45My sister.
00:48:46A champion barrel racer.
00:48:48Wow.
00:48:49One of my favorites.
00:48:50You probably say that to everyone.
00:48:53I'm hoping to be a favorite, too.
00:48:55We'll see.
00:48:56Okay.
00:48:57Thank you, Lola.
00:48:58Merry Christmas.
00:48:59Merry Christmas.
00:49:01Bye.
00:49:02Bye.
00:49:04Where are we going now?
00:49:06Surprise.
00:49:07Surprise, surprise.
00:49:12My mom and I used to live up north.
00:49:14And every year, sometime around Christmas, we'd drive down and go to Helena's Bakery.
00:49:21Get these special Christmas cookies.
00:49:25And let me guess.
00:49:26You both would come to this bench and eat these cookies.
00:49:30Um, no, actually.
00:49:34We walked down this main street so many times and somehow never saw this park.
00:49:43Then, two years ago, I was already living in the city and, um, it was the year my mom passed away.
00:49:54I came down to get the cookies around our usual time and, uh, I came across this park.
00:50:04Clear as day.
00:50:08It's been here since the 1800s, but sometimes I feel like she left it for me.
00:50:15If that makes sense.
00:50:18It does.
00:50:28These are delicious.
00:50:30I know, right?
00:50:31To me, they taste like being a child at Christmas.
00:50:38So, now every year, I sit here and eat our favorite cookies, listen to my mom's favorite music, and stare at the stars.
00:50:53That's so poetic. You should put it in a podcast.
00:50:57Oh, no, I try to keep myself out of the podcast.
00:51:01Anyway, it's not really interesting.
00:51:07Didn't you recently tell me that everyone's journey is interesting?
00:51:15We're getting off track.
00:51:17Off track off what?
00:51:18The mission. The podcast. You and Tanya.
00:51:22Right. Okay.
00:51:23By running through the park in snowshoes, it doesn't give you and Tanya a chance to take a step closer, look into each other's eyes.
00:51:37What are some quieter indoor activities you could do?
00:51:42They like game nights.
00:51:45Great. All cozy on the couch. You know, we should do that tomorrow night. We're running out of time.
00:51:51Oh, wait. Thank you for sharing this with me.
00:51:57It's nothing.
00:51:59No, that's not true. Thank you.
00:52:04Okay.
00:52:15You can't see it.
00:52:17Mine are done. Mine are done.
00:52:18No, you're not going to get it. I'm sorry.
00:52:21Oh, thank you.
00:52:23Oh, Tanya, you've got to pose.
00:52:29Oh, look at that.
00:52:31Oh, look at that. So cute.
00:52:32It is.
00:52:34Hey, Fred, why don't you upload those pictures? Would you mind sending me your favorites? They'll be great for the podcast blog.
00:52:39Could you send them to me, too?
00:52:40Oh, of course.
00:52:41See that, Patty? High demand.
00:52:43Yes, I heard that.
00:52:46Oh, I love Celebrity Guess Who.
00:52:49Oh, wait. Don't we need an even number for that? What happens when Tanya gets here?
00:52:53I can sit this one out. I probably should, anyway.
00:52:56Oh, absolutely not. We'll have three on one team, and then Danielle and Elise, you'll be on a team together. That's fair.
00:53:03So, Elise, what are you doing on the actual holiday?
00:53:06Well, after I post the podcast, I'm going to make my mom's cornbread stuffing.
00:53:12If I can figure it out.
00:53:14And then curl up on my couch and watch A Christmas Carol and Rudolph.
00:53:18Well, you can join us. Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, the whole shebang.
00:53:23Sure.
00:53:25Thank you so much for the invite, but I wouldn't want to be in the way of anything.
00:53:30What on earth would you be in the way of?
00:53:34Hi, everyone. I have a surprise.
00:53:38Everyone, meet Cliff.
00:53:41He came early.
00:53:42What a great surprise.
00:53:44Hi, darling.
00:53:46Hi, Mom.
00:53:47This is my mom, Kylie.
00:53:48Hi, Fred.
00:53:50Cliff, this is my dad, Fred.
00:53:52Cliff, great to meet you.
00:53:54Hi, Cliff. So nice to meet you.
00:53:56This is Danielle.
00:53:58So nice to meet you, Cliff.
00:53:59Yeah, you as well. I've heard a lot of good things about you.
00:54:02Likewise.
00:54:04Still not as much conflict as I'd like.
00:54:06But my main question is, how do we bring the big love triangle to the surface?
00:54:11Actually, that's very much in the works.
00:54:14Last night, Cliff arrived early.
00:54:16Everyone was surprised. Big twist.
00:54:18He seems like a worthy opponent. Tensions will surely rise.
00:54:23I know it definitely threw Danielle back into competition mode.
00:54:26What are you talking about?
00:54:27What are you talking about?
00:54:29I'm talking about the love triangle between Danielle, Tanya, and you.
00:54:35It is delightfully clear in all of the footage I listened to.
00:54:38All your little protestations about how they're not right for each other.
00:54:42Those are some good breadcrumbs.
00:54:44I don't really... I don't know what you're talking about.
00:54:48Denial.
00:54:49Oh, it's brilliant. Use it.
00:54:51By the way, given the rushed nature of all of this,
00:54:54I'm not going to have time to go over this before you have to send it in to Kevin.
00:54:57So, I am trusting you.
00:54:59Do not let me down.
00:55:02Yes, ma'am.
00:55:05These white lies are piling up.
00:55:08This family is wonderful, and this podcast is a whole trick on them.
00:55:13On top of that, I'm the one who encouraged Tanya to invite Cliff out early.
00:55:18Which was a complete betrayal to Danielle.
00:55:21The last thing I want.
00:55:22That's a lot to keep track of.
00:55:25Ball, please.
00:55:26Before that, at least we were in it together.
00:55:30We're on the same team.
00:55:32Well, does this other love triangle exist?
00:55:36I have noticed a different energy about you lately.
00:55:39I mean, there might have been a moment where it could have existed,
00:55:45but things went another way.
00:55:47Okay.
00:55:48So, what are you going to do?
00:55:50The best thing to do is take a step back and go back to Janice's plan A.
00:55:54I'm going to help Danielle get the girl, and that'll be better for everyone.
00:55:59Except maybe Cliff.
00:56:00He seems like a great guy, honestly.
00:56:02What about you?
00:56:04I get to keep my podcast.
00:56:06You know how much that means to me.
00:56:08I actually have our next activity planned, like a grand finale.
00:56:12Well, tell me!
00:56:13Carriage rides through Central Park.
00:56:21Hey, guys.
00:56:22Guys!
00:56:23I'm going to pick you.
00:56:24You and the horse.
00:56:25Cheese!
00:56:28Why didn't I think of this?
00:56:29Quintessential New York.
00:56:30Patty and Fred are going to love this.
00:56:32Okay, I am going to do everything I can to get you and Tanya in one of those carriages alone,
00:56:37and then I think it's finally time to speak from the heart.
00:56:40Let her know how you feel, huh?
00:56:41Let's secure your spot.
00:56:43Why are you acting so weird?
00:56:45Huh? No.
00:56:47I am just focused.
00:56:49Our deadline is fast approaching.
00:56:52Don't you want to get the girl?
00:56:54Hey, guys.
00:56:55Yes.
00:56:56Of course.
00:56:57All right, everyone.
00:56:59Today, I am taking the reins.
00:57:02Pun intended.
00:57:04To make everything more streamlined, I have created carriage assignments.
00:57:09So carriage number one, Patty, Fred, and Cliff.
00:57:13Great chance to get to know each other.
00:57:15So carriage number two is Tanya and Danielle.
00:57:18Great.
00:57:19What about you, Elise?
00:57:21Oh, no.
00:57:22I'm going to stay here.
00:57:23More room overall.
00:57:25It's better.
00:57:26But the carriages seat up to four.
00:57:27Yes.
00:57:28But everyone should be able to stretch out, enjoy.
00:57:32Well, either way, wouldn't Cliff and Tanya like to sit together since he just got in yesterday?
00:57:37I mean, I certainly don't mind riding with you lovely folks.
00:57:40Nor do I.
00:57:41I can do it.
00:57:44Oh, why don't we do rock, paper, scissors?
00:57:47Great.
00:57:49I'm in.
00:57:51Hi.
00:57:53All right.
00:57:54Hey.
00:57:55Hey.
00:57:56Come on.
00:57:59Yeah.
00:58:00Elise, you can come with us.
00:58:01Sure.
00:58:02Okay.
00:58:03Come on.
00:58:04Okay.
00:58:05Okay.
00:58:06Okay.
00:58:07Okay.
00:58:08Bye.
00:58:09Bye.
00:58:10Bye.
00:58:11Bye.
00:58:12Bye.
00:58:13Bye.
00:58:14Bye.
00:58:15Take pictures.
00:58:21So, you two known each other since first grade?
00:58:24Yeah.
00:58:25We grew up around the corner from each other.
00:58:27Christmas has always been a big deal with the family.
00:58:30And me too.
00:58:32Oh, I meant to say, it was so nice of your family to make me a stocking.
00:58:35That was us.
00:58:36Me and Elise.
00:58:38We did it for the podcast.
00:58:41Not that they wouldn't make one for you.
00:58:43Yeah, I'm sure if we were at home, my mom would have made you one.
00:58:46Yeah, I'm sure too.
00:58:47I mean, I have one.
00:58:51So, you and Elise are together, right?
00:58:53Together?
00:58:54I saw her fix your lapel.
00:58:56Looked a little intimate, just assumed.
00:58:59Elise is just here recording the podcast.
00:59:02Yeah, they're not an item.
00:59:04No.
00:59:05Well, either way, I look forward to listening to the podcast.
00:59:09Well, I did tell everyone you were a Christmas guy.
00:59:13It's true.
00:59:14Such a gentleman.
00:59:17Good, sir.
00:59:19You go first.
00:59:20No, I insist.
00:59:22Come on.
00:59:35Oh, look.
00:59:36We're finally doing this after all these years.
00:59:44Oh, man.
00:59:46Is that a cardinal?
00:59:47He's so beautiful.
00:59:48Oh, yeah.
00:59:49There's beauty all around us if you're looking close enough.
00:59:52This is amazing.
00:59:54My pleasure, Meg.
00:59:56Good.
01:00:08So, here we are in beautiful Central Park,
01:00:12having just done the classic Christmas carriage ride.
01:00:16I get a feeling Patty and Fred enjoyed it.
01:00:20They are nodding emphatically.
01:00:24Now, since I have Patty and Fred to myself for a minute,
01:00:28what are your thoughts on Cliff?
01:00:30Well, I think we like him.
01:00:33I think so, too.
01:00:34He seems considerate and genuine.
01:00:37And they seem to adore each other.
01:00:39What do you think, Elise?
01:00:41I suppose I'm curious to see how Danielle fits into all of this.
01:00:46I can't help but notice how Tanya and Danielle seem so close.
01:00:50We've gone through our phases of hope for those two.
01:00:53Danielle is one of our favorite people.
01:00:56But at some point we realized how awful it would be if they dated and it didn't work out.
01:01:01And then he wasn't in our life at all.
01:01:03Yeah, we realized at some point that if they were going to end up together,
01:01:07they would have to figure it out.
01:01:09But isn't that the most classic of stories?
01:01:13An epic love story spanning decades?
01:01:16Well, I think Tanya and Cliff seem to be a great match.
01:01:21I think there is a perfect match out there for Danielle.
01:01:27Somewhere.
01:01:39Tomorrow's Christmas Eve Eve.
01:01:42Obviously, you couldn't make your move in the carriage with Cliff there.
01:01:46So, tomorrow will have to be your day.
01:01:48Okay.
01:01:49You know, maybe we can even find a better grand gesture.
01:01:52Something to do with the Empire State Building.
01:01:55Right now, all I need is an easygoing interview before we wrap up.
01:01:59We can talk about the anticipation.
01:02:03Speculate about how things might go down.
01:02:07Oh, um.
01:02:11I, I, I need to check something.
01:02:16Oh.
01:02:35Hey.
01:02:38All good?
01:02:39Yeah. Sorry, I have this project.
01:02:41There's a few of my mom's recipes she didn't write down,
01:02:45so I'm trying to figure them out before I forget.
01:02:48The cider's one of them.
01:02:50And tonight is spice cake.
01:02:52Smells amazing. It'll be nice while we're recording.
01:02:55Right. Um, Kate, you can just pull this chair up and get started.
01:03:08Wow. I already saw.
01:03:10Are you not an expert on all things Christmas in New York?
01:03:15No. I, uh, I mostly stay in and do things like this.
01:03:22Though the cookies and park in Little Italy, that's, that's real.
01:03:27That was my favorite part.
01:03:29You know, a wise woman once asked me,
01:03:32is the Christmas spirit really something someone can be good at?
01:03:36I think she called it ephemeral.
01:03:40Sounds wise.
01:03:43So you're not upset?
01:03:44No. I mean, I'm not surprised. We did come up with most of it together.
01:03:49Yeah.
01:03:50And I think we succeeded with Christmas in New York.
01:03:53The Schultzes have had a magical time.
01:03:57You know, whatever happens with the podcast,
01:04:01whatever happens between you and Tanya,
01:04:04it's clear this family really loves you.
01:04:07And you always have a place in their lives.
01:04:10I don't think you'll ever lose your spot.
01:04:15Just in case that's the spot you were really afraid of losing.
01:04:22Let's figure out your big move for tomorrow.
01:04:24My big move?
01:04:26The combination of yours and Tanya's love story.
01:04:30Right.
01:04:31Uh, well, we have all this audio recording.
01:04:35The family, Tanya, me.
01:04:38You.
01:04:41Maybe it's like you said that first night.
01:04:44Maybe there's a different angle.
01:04:49A different story in all of this.
01:04:52I've been building it up on you getting the girl.
01:04:57Things can shift during editing, but there's only so much I can do.
01:05:02Maybe the B love story becomes the A story.
01:05:15Hang on.
01:05:18Honey.
01:05:32You know, I didn't want to say anything,
01:05:34but I was really going to miss snowshoeing this year.
01:05:38Danielle's a great guy, despite always having to be right.
01:05:43You know, all this warm holiday celebration kind of makes it uneven.
01:05:47How about seeing if Cliff can come back early?
01:05:50I mean, it's a shame he should miss all of this, right?
01:05:53Yeah, it's worth a try.
01:05:56Oh, and this is off the record, right?
01:05:58Of course. I don't even have my recording equipment set up.
01:06:07You don't even have your recording equipment set up?
01:06:13I didn't.
01:06:16And then I realized my phone was recording and I just downloaded everything.
01:06:20I meant what I said. I wasn't going to use that recording.
01:06:26Where?
01:06:28On the same team?
01:06:30We are. Look, I can explain.
01:06:33You encouraged her to invite Cliff back early just to make things harder for me.
01:06:39Look, it was a temporary lapse in judgment.
01:06:42My producer kept talking about a love triangle and creating drama and I was confused.
01:06:48No, wait a sec. I forgot I had even told her that.
01:06:51And then he showed up and either way, I knew I had made a mistake
01:06:56and I immediately went back to our original plan.
01:06:59The one we agreed on.
01:07:02Where we were on the same team.
01:07:06I didn't want to lie to you.
01:07:08Besides, didn't we just agree the story changed?
01:07:13If I did make it harder for you to get the girl,
01:07:18that girl,
01:07:21does that even matter now?
01:07:23Yes.
01:07:26Because I don't trust you.
01:07:33I'm not recording anymore of this podcast. I'm done.
01:07:36And by extension, so are the Schultz's.
01:07:40I know we signed releases.
01:07:43I can't do anything about that.
01:07:47But if you do put this out in the world,
01:07:51please don't make fools out of this family.
01:07:56I would never do that.
01:08:16I don't know. He's right. How could he trust me?
01:08:19Well, did you tell him how you feel?
01:08:21Yeah.
01:08:23No, I'm almost.
01:08:25We were talking about the B love story.
01:08:29Before it all got obliterated.
01:08:31Now the podcast is ruined.
01:08:33I suppose Janice finally got some of that drama she always wanted.
01:08:36I can't decide whether to drop it and cut my losses
01:08:40or try to salvage something.
01:08:43I don't know what's worse for the Schultz's.
01:08:45Having that all have been for nothing
01:08:48or airing a podcast where they're being fooled.
01:08:53Either way, I don't even know how I'd structure it.
01:08:56There's no conclusion and all the characters dropped out.
01:09:00Not all.
01:09:02Not you too.
01:09:03Listen, like it or not, you're in the story, my friend.
01:09:07And it's worth looking into, isn't it?
01:09:10Might this be the way into telling the kind of story you wanted to tell anyway?
01:09:19If this is about the Christmas spirit flowing from your heart and your gut,
01:09:25then I guess my question is, why do I need your help?
01:09:31I'm like your coach.
01:09:33Or tour guide.
01:09:35Concierge.
01:09:36Regardless, we're on the same team.
01:09:49Okay.
01:09:57Thanks for meeting me.
01:09:59Oh. Oh, you look serious.
01:10:02Okay.
01:10:03Is it the pitch presentation?
01:10:05No. I wanted to let you know that the podcast had been cancelled.
01:10:08Or it might still be produced, but we're no longer doing any more recording.
01:10:11Oh. That's too bad. I really liked Elise.
01:10:15Also, I have a confession to make.
01:10:19There was a secret angle to the podcast.
01:10:21On the surface, it was about me showing you and your family an amazing New York Christmas.
01:10:28But it was really about me winning your heart.
01:10:34I agreed to it because when Christmas plans changed and Cliff came in the picture and then you got raspberry on your chin,
01:10:40I panicked that I had overlooked this unrealized romantic love between us.
01:10:44And then I became thoughtlessly competitive and I was terrified of being replaced.
01:10:49And?
01:10:50Then, it wasn't the case.
01:10:54There are no unrealized feelings.
01:10:58We're friends.
01:11:00We always have been.
01:11:06It's okay, because the same questions came up for me for a moment.
01:11:12It would have been a classic love story, I guess.
01:11:15Yeah. But not ours.
01:11:19Is that why there's no more podcast?
01:11:21No. Elise and I had a disagreement.
01:11:24Oh. That's too bad.
01:11:28I feel really badly for deceiving your parents. I understand if they're angry.
01:11:33Is it that terrible of a lie? They both had a wonderful time, right? I know I did.
01:11:39Cheers.
01:11:40Cheers, buddy.
01:11:42Cheers.
01:11:48This chestnut guy is the best kept secret in New York City. He's always moving from location to location.
01:11:53Hey, hey.
01:11:55Hey.
01:11:57How's it going?
01:11:58I am not sure if I'm tearing down the rom-com or celebrating it.
01:12:03Not sure if this is the best or worst idea I've ever had.
01:12:06Well, I brought some Thai. Enough for lunch and dinner.
01:12:10So, I'm heading out this afternoon. What do you have planned for after you turn in tomorrow?
01:12:15Probably cook. Watch some movies.
01:12:18Definitely staying off the internet and social media, because I won't want to know.
01:12:22Do you hope he will listen?
01:12:24I don't know yet.
01:12:26Okay. Well, good luck. Merry Christmas. And I love you.
01:12:29I love you.
01:12:32Okay. You're the best. Take care of yourself.
01:12:34Okay. I'll see you in a bit.
01:12:36Bye.
01:12:41Ugh.
01:12:47Now that I see this executed, I don't like it.
01:12:51This line down the middle feels like a barrier.
01:12:54I'm just finishing up some meetings at the cafe.
01:12:56But when I get back to the office, let's go with the other version.
01:13:00The Elf and Reindeer reviews. Plan A. Quirky connections.
01:13:05Thank you so much for joining us on this Christmas Eve, Eve.
01:13:09Do we have a fun idea for you?
01:13:12Let's imagine that this elf is sneaking away from the workshop to go to a gingerbread cook-off with his best friend, Blitzen.
01:13:20And of course, these characters are interchangeable and flexible.
01:13:24And as far as commercials go, we were thinking there's always a bit of fun to be had when we license a Christmas classic and add our own lyrics to it.
01:13:34Su-vi-ni-
01:13:37That's going to be stuck in everyone's head.
01:13:39Pleasantly stuck.
01:13:40Brian is a fan. He's a huge fan.
01:13:42I'm sorry. Weren't we talking about connection last time?
01:13:46Oh, yeah. These two are connecting through their phones, which is the promise of the app.
01:13:51Yeah, I suppose what I'm saying is, I don't feel connected to them.
01:13:57Yeah. I can see that.
01:14:00And no offense, but you don't really feel connected to it.
01:14:07I suppose that when you think of connection and Christmas, the first thing that comes to mind is family.
01:14:16Which seems obvious enough.
01:14:19But the definition of family is so broad that when I try to think of visuals for family, I'm stumped.
01:14:31Um, like, hold on a sec.
01:14:35Like, do we compose a picture of a standard nuclear family over dinner?
01:14:41My Christmas family growing up was my neighbors.
01:14:45Some people's families are their friends, their co-workers.
01:14:49Some people's families live far away.
01:14:54I recently met someone who was using cooking as a means to celebrate and connect with her mother, who's no longer with us.
01:15:02She misses so much. How could we even begin to capture that connection?
01:15:10It really is the ephemeral, the unexpected moments in between that hold all the magic.
01:15:17And it's hard for someone in advertising to admit that.
01:15:23It's difficult to construct those.
01:15:27I wish I'd put something better together for you. Better luck next time.
01:15:31See, this is what I'm talking about when I say alive and raw.
01:15:37Let's touch base after the New Year.
01:15:40Let's get going, boys.
01:15:47Merry Christmas.
01:15:49What was that?
01:15:51Let's get started.
01:15:52What was that?
01:15:54Let's get started.
01:15:56And that's how this narrator, despite her best efforts, fell into the narrative and also into love.
01:16:08Okay.
01:16:23Hey, Dad. Took a little quick thinking on my part, but I think I really nailed that Christmas inspiration.
01:16:31Speaking of which, I have a proposal.
01:16:34We never spend Christmas together, and I think we should.
01:16:39You guys should fly out next year.
01:16:42You know, I recently became an expert on the New York Christmas experience, and I could be your guide.
01:16:49It would mean a lot to me.
01:16:52So, let me know.
01:16:55And Merry Christmas Eve.
01:17:19Um.
01:17:23Here we go.
01:17:30Elise.
01:17:31Hi, Janice. You texted, in all caps.
01:17:34Yes, I did. I was very excited.
01:17:37Oh.
01:17:38The podcast is already trending on social media. Seems to be getting a lot of listeners.
01:17:42It was so clever of you to bring in that Live Life winning call.
01:17:45I just finished listening to it.
01:17:46All of it? Already?
01:17:48Yeah. I listen to most things at two and a half speed. It is very invigorating.
01:17:52And what do you think?
01:17:53It's kind of like when restaurants put bacon in ice cream or rosemary in whiskey drinks.
01:17:57At first you're like, oh, what? And then you're like, oh, okay. I guess some people like this kind of thing.
01:18:02Look, it's clear that this kind of storytelling is not my thing, but I still felt compelled to listen to it.
01:18:09Especially since I made a cameo.
01:18:11I see you took my love triangle note.
01:18:14Good work.
01:18:15I don't know if it's me or if it's all this Christmas spirit, but I think you should keep Life in the Light going.
01:18:22And in the new year, we should look at you heading your own department.
01:18:25Seeing as you're so good at this sort of thing, we should maintain some variety, I suppose.
01:18:30It's Christmas after all.
01:18:32That would be great.
01:18:34Excellent.
01:18:35Merry Christmas.
01:18:37Oh.
01:18:39Merry Christmas.
01:18:46Oh.
01:18:49Rosemary.
01:18:51Oh, my God.
01:18:54What do you contribute to this?
01:18:56I did the shopping.
01:18:57Oh, there it is.
01:18:58Ho, ho, ho.
01:18:59Oh, hi.
01:19:00Hey.
01:19:01Good morning.
01:19:02Hey, Daniel, you're here.
01:19:06Let me take your coat.
01:19:09And I've got your place right here.
01:19:16Okay.
01:19:19Good morning, Cliff.
01:19:20Merry Christmas Eve, Daniel.
01:19:22Merry Christmas Eve.
01:19:27Sorry.
01:19:29About.
01:19:34It's okay.
01:19:35I mean, can't exactly blame you.
01:19:39So, how'd the pitch go yesterday?
01:19:41We got the account.
01:19:42Yes.
01:19:43Great.
01:19:44And actually, Fred, I ended up using your photos, which were essential for the success of the pitch.
01:19:48Did you hear that, guys?
01:19:50Essential.
01:19:51Yes, we heard, Fred.
01:19:54Oh, I have to say, it just feels strange not having Elise here recording everything.
01:20:00Have you guys listened to the podcast yet?
01:20:03I saw that it was posted online.
01:20:07We decided we'd listen to it on our drive home post-Christmas, in case it's upsetting.
01:20:13It's Elise.
01:20:14Do you guys really think it's going to be upsetting?
01:20:17Yeah, I probably won't listen to it at all.
01:20:23Let's eat.
01:20:24Yeah, okay.
01:20:25Here, Fred.
01:20:26Oh, it looks wonderful.
01:20:27Have some berries, Daniel.
01:20:28Ooh, my favorite.
01:20:29Oh, yeah.
01:20:30Thanks, Mom. This looks unbelievable.
01:20:33Hi, it's Bonnie. Leave a message.
01:20:36Hi, Bonnie.
01:20:38You're probably out of range or with your family, but I just wanted to tell you I figured out the cider.
01:20:46Rosemary. Just a tiny sprig.
01:20:51Anyway, I just wanted to share that with someone.
01:20:56So there you go.
01:20:59Cheers.
01:21:06Cheers.
01:21:14Cheers, Mom.
01:21:21I suppose I'll let the city help me celebrate.
01:21:36Merry Christmas.
01:21:51You look really happy.
01:21:53I am. And surprised.
01:21:56My mom and dad are coming in for Christmas next year.
01:21:59Well, they'll have a wonderful guide.
01:22:04I have a confession.
01:22:06I know Fred said that we hadn't listened to the podcast.
01:22:10Well, I may have listened to bits and pieces when I could sneak away.
01:22:15It's really good.
01:22:17I skipped the last episode because I had to know how it ends.
01:22:21You might want to listen to it.
01:22:23I don't think I'm up to it.
01:22:25Also, where would I find the time?
01:22:27Daniel, it's six 40-minute episodes.
01:22:29You skipped the ads. Sorry.
01:22:31It's under three and a half hours.
01:22:34It's trending on social media.
01:22:37Kris Kringle.
01:22:59It all started with a man who called himself Kris Kringle.
01:23:08I'm going to stick with that moniker to protect all involved.
01:23:12Actually, wait, I need to go further back.
01:23:15As many of you know, for years, I've been doing this podcast in my own,
01:23:20I'll admit it, safe storytelling style.
01:23:24Frankly, he drove me nuts.
01:23:26He asked for my help and then rejected it.
01:23:29He was being constantly competitive.
01:23:31He insulted my Christmas Manhattans,
01:23:33argued with every little thing like arguing was a reflex.
01:23:37But I should remind you,
01:23:39it was only fair since I actually had no idea what I was doing.
01:23:46But when they were snowshoeing, I saw such closeness between them.
01:23:50Perhaps it wasn't even a storytelling strategy for me to have Tanya invite Cliff back early.
01:23:56Maybe I was the person who subconsciously didn't want him to succeed at getting the girl.
01:24:06I'm not sure I can identify when I first caught feelings.
01:24:10But when we arrived at that window with a couple dancing,
01:24:13the thought that popped into my head was that should be us.
01:24:18Editing this podcast is like going back in time and shaping events.
01:24:24It made me wish I could alter so many actual things.
01:24:29Lying to Kris Kringle.
01:24:32I wish I had laid my head in and kissed him in that park in Little Italy.
01:24:38If there's a lesson here, at least for me,
01:24:42it's let yourself into the moment.
01:24:44At least for me.
01:24:46It's let yourself into the narrative.
01:24:49Because that's how this narrator, despite her best efforts…
01:25:00Hi.
01:25:02Merry Christmas Eve.
01:25:05Um, how'd you know to find me here?
01:25:09Well it was either here or Rockefeller Center.
01:25:12My parents are coming in for Christmas next year.
01:25:15They already bought their tickets.
01:25:17Daniel, that's great news.
01:25:19I took your advice.
01:25:25So how'd it go with the Schultzes?
01:25:29Everybody knows everything.
01:25:33But it's okay.
01:25:36And Tanya?
01:25:38We're still friends.
01:25:40As we've always been.
01:25:44What were you listening to?
01:25:48This really compelling podcast.
01:25:52Everyone's been raving about it.
01:25:55It's not a boring podcast.
01:25:57No.
01:25:59It's hard to be bored when you're in the story.
01:26:03And there's a certain way you want it to end.
01:26:05The end?
01:26:07The end is still uncertain.
01:26:10Ambiguous, I mean.
01:26:16No.
01:26:18It's not.
01:26:24Are you gonna get that?
01:26:28It's Patty.
01:26:30She says if you two lovebirds are free, they still haven't had dessert yet.
01:26:35You should go.
01:27:05You should go.