Author Masha Gessen discusses the new book “Surviving Autocracy,” which examines the lasting effects of Trump’s presidency on America. Gessen, a National Book Award winner and staff writer at The New Yorker, sheds light on how Trump’s rhetoric has degraded the meaning of the truth and how his presidency compares to global historical events.




“There’s no one event that is going to tell us that we have now passed to the other side of autocracy. There are many things that build over time, and Trumpism itself has built over time. There are many things that allowed Trump to happen,” Gessen said. Watch the episode above to hear more about “Surviving Autocracy” and why Gessen says Trump’s one talent is “attacking meaning.”